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  1. Member Roderz's Avatar
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    haven't done the PAL vs NTSC thing yet?
    Better keep quiet on that one or this post could make it to page 3 even
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    haven't done the PAL vs NTSC thing yet?
    Better keep quiet on that one or this post could make it to page 3 even
    I bet it'll be there before you know it, and probalby make it to 4 or 5..

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    OMG, are we really on page 2???

    You guys are killing me

    Ok, I am now authoring the one that did NOT bring up that error message in virt dub mod.

    As for the one I kept getting an error with, in gspot it says:

    0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3

    for the audio

    So, whew, does this mean I have to save it as a wav AND can I select that wav file in the author software under audio????? And will it work????

    When I went to load the ac3 file in author software, I had to use beslice, but it worked like a charm and is now authoring. Then I will burn it, bring it home and see if it works in the dvd player. Woohoo, say a prayer.

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    so i take it the avi file that didn't work is bec it is an mp3??? omg too many rules.

    so is their a guide for that one.

    and please don't take my membership from this site away, even if I am driving you all nuts today, i love it here. all so helpful.

    Ok, 13% into my first authoring with the ac3 file. OMG is this really going to work.

    Any guides for the mp3 audio?????? How to take an xvid.avi file with mp3 audio and burn it to dvd????????

    I am going to be so smart about this stuff so soon.

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    so after re-reading all your advice, am i to take it that you do NOT need a new guide for mp3?

    I can save it as a wav and then select the wav file in the author software????

    Did someone mention changing the mp3 to mp2????? HOW?????? LOL I want to learn everything !!!! and you guys seem to know it all.

    Can we discuss the diff between ntsc and pal tomorrow??? My brain is tired now

    My current authoring has 7 min to go. woohoo. almost there.
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    Bingo !

    If it took the audio in your laughing.

    You can double click on one of the vobs to test before you burn.

    Yes if it is MP3 you save as wav , the only thing different is that when you calculate the Bitrate for the video in the Bitrate Calculator set the audio bitrate to whatever the WAV is , probably 224 or 128 (something like that) and that will give you the bitrate to use in TMPG for the video.

    Looks like you've sussed it .

    Next time should be quicker now you know what you're doing.

    Should take about 3 hours I suppose beginning to end on average.

    I''ll stop babbling now should have reached the next page by now.
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    I sent you a PM message.

    Try this link ... works with WMV videos and AVI videos.

    Intervideo WinDVD Creator 2 ... works for me.

    https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=861277#861277
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    Well guys!!!! IT WORKED!!!!!!

    However, yes there is a however..... when i put the dvd into my dvd player it was all shaky. there was audio and the pic was clear but shaky. When I watched in on windows media player it was not shaky.

    Why is it shaky now?

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    Good.
    By shakey pic do you mean like a judder every couple of seconds?

    What is the FPS of your original file? Use G Spot

    And what are you encoding to with TMPGenc NTSC or PAL?
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    Sounds like your audio is mp3 and not ac3,use ffmpeggui and convert the audio to ac3 and use that in the dvd authoring stage.If its shaky try using a newer xvid codecs before encoding.
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    yes andy like a judder. i won't be able to find out the gspot info you inquired about until i return to work tomorrow ~ that is where the original file is.

    In tmpgenc i used ntsc.

    I am so frickin' frackin' close lol
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    ***ammendment to my last post


    the fps was 25 so i used PAL as per the guide.
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    So just to be clear

    Original AVI was 25fps (which is PAL)

    You used the PAL template in TMPGenc

    And you are in a country where PAL is the TV Standard? ie UK
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    Originally Posted by wendi
    when i opened the avi file in virt dub mod I got the following message:

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    Virt dub has detected an improper vbr audio encoding in the source avi file (audio stream 1). The current preference is to rewrite the audio header with standard CBR values during processing for better compatibility. THis may introduce up to 19890 ms of skew from the video stream. If this is unacceptable, decompress the *entire* audio stream to an uncompressed wav file and recompress with a constant bitrate encoder (bitrate: 131.0 17.9 kbps)
    Do you still want to rewrite the header? Yes No

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    That makes me laugh.

    Last week, wendi, you asked me what VBR audio was because you didn't know/care. I posted a link to the glossary as well as a procedure to fix it.

    Pity you didn't read it.
    If in doubt, Google it.
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    andy

    yes it was 25, yes i used pal, and No, I am in Canada. I was always using ntsc before but it said if it is 25 to use pal.
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    Originally Posted by wendi
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    yes it was 25, yes i used pal, and No, I am in Canada. I was always using ntsc before but it said if it is 25 to use pal.
    So ... what do you prefer ... video encoded to PAL specs ... 25 fps

    or NTSC ... 29.97 FPS

    Did you read my PM message ... ??

    That PM message will solve your problem ... if you follow through on the instructions.

    I've had xvid videos before with VBR audio ... Intervideo WinDVD Creator 2 ... can convert them with no problem ... at least I have no problem.
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    I encoded in pal because the fps was 25, can i still encode in ntsc with an fps of 25??? i am suppose to be using ntsc in canada, i believe.

    i do not know how to retrieve a pm.

    I will try to re-encode it tomorrow in ntsc ~ what do i do about the fps reading 25 though?

    hopefully this last little step will have me on my way.
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    ok i found your pm, thanks !! I am almost there though. I think I just have to take my file and re-encode it in NTSC instead of pal, but the guide said if the fps is 25 use pal, so what do i do when the fps is 25 and i want to use NTSC.

    Andy, I know you know the answer to this.

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    Check your PM message inbox ...

    I will have some new instuctions for you.

    Wait about 10 minutes
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    Andy, I know you know the answer to this.
    Follow what lacywest tells you on this one . In UK we don't need to convert
    as our equipment will handle NTSC and PAL for playback.
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    worst fears now realised (pal->ntsc)

    usefull frame rate info here...
    https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?guideid=328&howtoselect=4;41#328
    and here
    https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?guideid=84&howtoselect=4;41#84

    Never done pal->ntsc but have done ntsc->pal with good results.
    Good luck.

    OMG were on page 3!
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    lacy thanks soooo much for the info. however, your way brings me back to the beginning on an entirely new path.

    i have come so far on this path and am at the end. i need to take a 25fps and encode it ntsc. i will read the guides that roderz suggested and if all else fails will take another good look at your pm lacy, but i was hoping to stay on my current path as i am getting quite good with all the software andy suggested i download.

    in the meantime i will work with avi files that are not fps 25 and can be encoded in ntsc. hopefully i will find an answer to somehow encoded an fps25 avi file with ntsc.

    If i do find a way I will be sure to post it, but i have a feeling roderz already knows.
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    Theres a lot to learnt and mistakes to be made but wen you get it right and understand why, makes it all more satisfying
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    Andy you said:

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    If you can save the ac3 , that is your audio for use in TMPGenc DVD Author.

    If it is MP3 -DO NOT Demux and save as MP3 , you save that as a WAV.
    The WAV will then be your audio in TMPGenc DVD Author.


    TDA will accept ac3 or wav for your DVD. MP3 is NOT what is called DVD Compliant and will not work.


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    i went to my tmpgenc author software, add file - my .m2v and for audio i added the wav but it gave me an error saying it wouldn't accept the wav. i thot a wav file would work.

    arrgghh


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    When you extracted the audio did you set audio menu to full proessing or was it direct stream copy?

    What did gspot say about the avi audio before you extracted it?
    What size is the saved audio file?
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    Originally Posted by Roderz
    When you extracted the audio did you set audio menu to full proessing or was it direct stream copy?

    What did gspot say about the avi audio before you extracted it?
    What size is the saved audio file?
    in virt mod i used full processing. one thing i did not do when i encoded it is that i did not take the bitrate of the audio and use that one.

    gspot said the following about the audio:

    0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 layer 3
    Bitrate: 131 kb/s (65/ch,stereo)VB
    Fs 48000 Hz

    The size of the file after virt mod was done with it was 90,180 kb (wav)

    when i used gspot to find out the audio bitrate it was not a common one listed in the bitrate calculator drop down box, so i used custom, keyed it in and am now going to try to encode it again with the newly calculated bitrate.

    i was just wondering why the author did not take my wav, am i suppose to do full processing or direct stream?
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    another question????

    when i go to encode it in tmpgenc i thought the output file was suppose to end in file extension .m2v but mine automatically comes up .mpg. am i suppose to manually go and change this in the output filename box?

    the guide only talks about authoring .m2v not .mpg.
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    Roderz!!!!!

    I just went to the link you left for me about converting pal to ntsc. OMG. i am going to need a full weekend to get through that and a HUGE bottle of baileys !!!!!!!


    until i get the ntsc with extracting audio downpat first then i will go attack that guide.

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    0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 layer 3
    in this case u need to do the following..

    Load file in vdub - audio -> full processing
    then do audio -> compression and select no compression.
    then do audio -> conversion and select 48000Hz (if not al ready)
    then save as wav (file size should be aprox 900MB)

    that should fix your audio 4u.

    but mine automatically comes up .mpg
    you need to tell tmpgenc to create elementry streams (es video only)
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    Originally Posted by Roderz
    0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 layer 3
    in this case u need to do the following..

    Load file in vdub - audio -> full processing
    then do audio -> compression and select no compression.
    then do audio -> conversion and select 48000Hz (if not al ready)
    then save as wav (file size should be aprox 900MB)

    that should fix your audio 4u.

    but mine automatically comes up .mpg
    you need to tell tmpgenc to create elementry streams (es video only)
    Ok, i load the avi file, i get that error vbr message, i select no, full processing is already selected.

    Now: do audio > compression and select no compression

    where do i find that. i have a video on the menu bar but no audio. where do i find this???????

    secondly, i am re-encoding the avi with the audio calculated bitrate is this ok???? i was told to do this.

    ok so where do i find audio > compression and select no compression





    thanks for the tip about authoring and i am already doing the ES ( see i am catching on )
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