Is Tmpgenc plus worth $50?

[Findedeux]

I have been converting all my AVI to XVCD and generally have been happy with the quality. I have been thinking about upgrading to SVCD but I am not sure if the difference in quality from XCVD to SVCD is worth the $50 it costs to buy TMPEGenc plus. What do you guys think?

[W_Eagle]

To my view, TMPGEnc worth $200 or more, for all uses, including authoring DVDs. So is the value of moving from XVCD to SVCD and so is the value of moving from SVCD to DVD.

[Craig Tucker]

Yes

[pyscrow]

No, but thats what it costs.

Simple supply and demand - there is no real competition, as soon as a good Mpeg2 encoder shows up cheaper, that will be the end of Tmpeg's high costs.

[ZippyP.]

.... that will be the end of Tmpeg's high costs.

Other than CCE basic, I don't see any competition that can produce as good a quality output for the price. Do some looking around and you'll see that in fact it's a bargain.

[stk]

definitively

[Tommyknocker]

Yep!

[FOO]

I'm the cheapest SOB around , and I bought it

[Sugar]

No doubt about it.

[thor300]

Go for CCE basic instead, add $10 and get better quality encoding almost 3 times faster. Use it with AviSynth to get the most out of it. Dont know AviSynth? No problem, you can learn it in less time than it takes to encode with TMPGEnc.

[lordsmurf]

Go for CCE basic instead, add $10 and get better quality encoding almost 3 times faster. Use it with AviSynth to get the most out of it. Dont know AviSynth? No problem, you can learn it in less time than it takes to encode with TMPGEnc.

I disagree with everything you just said.

CCE has almost zero features compared to TMPGENC and has a steep learning curve if you want to combine it with AVISYNTH. And to call it "3x faster" is very debatable.

Like FOO said, I'm cheap too, but I bought it. Never regretted it. Probably one of the single most used programs on my PC.

[thor300]

It is more than twice as fast, and the encoding quality is better. I cant see whats so difficult about AviSynth, but thats just me. Agree it has no features, but it has what you need, and most important it has quality and speed. Thats important for me and i have no doubt what encoder is the very best.

[FOO]

My extensive tests some years ago put CCE encoding times
at about 60% of TMPGENC. This included the almost mantatory
use of Avisynth or Vdub in front of it. Don't forget to note that
you will have to do your audio separately. That IMHO makes
it about even or worse.

No way in hell it's 3 times as fast

edit: I also tried Quenc lately , and was very surprised at how well it did
and it's free

[thor300]

The difference is much bigger than your 60%, and doing the audio separatley doesnt slow down the process that much, a full backup can be done in less than 2 hours with CCE, and its not only me, i read other posts stating the same as i experienced. And you dont HAVE to do audio separately with CCE, so your information is a little wrong here and there, its expired at best

[FOO]

I have only my tests to go by
I don't believe anyone else , especially what I read on the internet.

For some strange reason , some people have an emotional rather
than objective attachement to a particular approach.
I put it down to early religious training that teaches that
"my ideas are the best" and the rest are all crazy


2 years ago the TMPGenc vs CCE thing was as bad as the
+ vs - DVD format and nobody ever won that either.

edit: and back then CCE was VERY expensive

[jellied]

If you are really cheap you can buy TMPGEnc DVD Source Creator for $10 less than TMPGEnc Plus. It is a stripped down version based on the project wizard of TMPGEnc Plus. If you don't need to fiddle with the expert settings in TMPGEnc Plus it might be a good deal. There is a trial version at the TMPGEnc website.

[pchan]

I used to benchmark by encoding 10 minutes of avi file (720 X 576) to PAL VCD using TMPGEnc. It took me 35 minutes on my AMD Xp2100+, 512M byte RAM. Now a 10 minutes video clip takes about 9.5 minutes to encode using TMPGEnc on my Intel P4 3.0C, 512M byte RAM. If you want speed go for the fastest Intel cpu since TMPGEnc supports SSE2 and HT(hypertreading).

[pyscrow]

I'm the cheapest SOB around , and I bought it

Yeah I bought it too - that does not mean it is not over priced! Just that I had no legal alternative.

I am also an elcheapo - Tmpgenc is the only program I use for DVD stuff that is not freeware, so if a reasonable freeware alternative was available I would be there like a shot!

[BobK]

The problem is not that TMPG is overpriced- it's the freeware that you use is underpriced.

[FOO]

so if a reasonable freeware alternative was available I would be there like a shot!

I did a quick test of QuEnc the other day , and couldn't see the difference.
I was a not so good TV capture , however

When I get time i'll do a part of a DVD and see what happens

[lordsmurf]

I played with QuEnc some too. It's nice, but I'd probably still stick with TMPGENC because of its filter sets.

[indolikaa]

Is TMPGEnc Plus worth $50?

Yes.

[Baldrick]

tmpgenc plus is NOT a vcd or svcd author tool. try post in correct forum.

[Gazorgan]

Worth every penny!

[Hardcoreruss]

Yes

And here, the most used prog on my pc (after battlefield vietnam that is)

[pyscrow]

The problem is not that TMPG is overpriced- it's the freeware that you use is underpriced.

Aagh but that is the beauty of freeware!

Sometimes freeware goes pay, but then you just keep using the last free version, or go on to the next bit of freeware! (Or write your own code, which I do often for simpler things!)

IE DVDfab and Odin duplicate image finder are two programs that are now "pay", I am quiet happy using the last freeware versions, they work!

[BobK]

> Sometimes freeware goes pay, but then you just keep using the last free version, or go on to the next bit of freeware!

So if you think TMPG is overpriced just move on to the next bit of freeware.

[northcat_8]

Is TMPGEnc Plus worth $50?

It is to me. I use it all the time.

[DiablosuX102]

i used Tmpgenc awhile, then tried mainconcept and have used it ever since. i still use Tmpgenc for stuff like (de)muxing and very basic cut/merge projects. love mainconcept though, very fast and great quality.

[edit] of course its quite a bit more expensive, failed to mention that, depending on ur budget u might be better off using Tmpgenc.

josh

[mastersmurfie]

Is TMPGEnc Plus worth $50?

at first, I thought "No"...but after using it a few times (during the trial period) to encode some of my files to DVD specs, yes it is worth it. When my trial ran out, and I couldn't do what I was able to do before, it "became" worth the $50.

just a thought

mastersmurfie