Newbies, foul-mouths, and flamers!

[indolikaa]

Didn't intend to start a flame war, but as soon as I made my first reply, I opened myself up to it. Now in fairness, I need to sit here and take it.

You didn't start a flame war. This is not a flame war. This doesn't even qualify as a mild disagreement between involved parties.

Somebody dig up a thread worthy of being called a flame war.

And for the record, I am in COMPLETE agreement with what Jimmalenko said. It's all about respect for the community.

[tekkieman]

That's only 25!

But thanks anyway

25 displayed. Page links to 12 pages....270 some odd posts!


1,2,3......Last page.......

In case you want to try again....
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/search.php?search_author=Supreme2k

richdvd - Plenty to do with my time, but can't resist the occassional humor, and the genuine knowledge that is represented here. I check all posts to this site all least twice a day.

[The village idiot]

Where's Jeex? Must be his 'puter is broken. And what about Foo?

[next]

Yesterday, I decided to list all posts of one of these "key" individuals, and quickly learned that in their last 40-some-odd posts, never did provide one useful bit of information to the original poster, but did thoroughly attack them. While I enjoy the occasional flame war, and sometimes chuckle in my sleep over some of the obvious BS answers given here.

Don't you have anything better to do with your time?

Typical.

[indolikaa]

Now we're kickin' it up a notch...

[Fluffbutt]

I've read most of these posts, and no one made any suggestions to stop the newbies, etc...

Have a look at the front dvdrhlp.com page. It IS a bit of a jumble (especially to a newbie).

How about changes to the welcome bit that tells newbies to go to certain areas for their most basic questions (like a pre-guessed newbie question answer set). Even a line of newbie links to main forum questions?

Even just telling them to go to certain areas for help....

I know it's annoying to have to do, but common sense is not common, and people will ask stupid obvious questions. It might help stops some newbie getting his arse kicked in the forum?

[jimmalenko]

An example of what I said earlier:

someone sent me a PM about joining AVIs with VBR Audio and that they couldn't modify the compression tab. I class them as type b) Ask another question in the forum because it worked last time .

I replied with:

Do these steps again (I have added 1 extra step):

1. Go into virtualdub and open the file.
2. Press OK to the error. go to the audio menu and set to Full Processing.
3. Go to the File menu and go to Save As WAV.
4. Close VirtualDub and reopen it.
5. Reopen the original AVI, Go to Audio menu and go to Full Processing.
6. Go to audio menu and go to WAV audio.
7. Browse to the WAV file you created.
8. Set your audio compression settings.
9. Goto the video menu and set to Direct Stream Copy.
10. Go to File Menu > Save As AVI.

The compression bit is not solid if there is No Audio selected or if audio is set to direct stream copy. my fault ! Try this. If it still doesn't work, please let me know which step is giving you issues.

The person replied that they didn't get it. So I replied:

Maybe your DivX player has a problem with MP3. Try using PCM Audio.

The person replied that they had one file in DivX and the other in XVid and still didn't get it. So I replied:

Yep, that is important. The one that is playing is using a divx codec. The one that isn't is using an XVid codec. That is why it won't play the video. Go back and do my instructions again, but instead of setting Video to Direct Stream Copy, set it to Full Processing. Then set the compression of the video to whatever it needs to be.

The person replied that they still didn't get it. So I replied:

Sounds like that codec doesn't like virtualdub. Try re-installing virtualdub. try re-installing the codec. Try converting to MPEG !

So, having used up all of my patience, I replied with:

I don't think video is for you.

and the winning reply was:

You want to say that I completely stupid and there is no chance for mi to get it or I miss something?

No shit dipshit. Need I say more ?

How much patience do I need to show ? This one person just kept asking questions because he/she was getting somewhere by doing so. They had no grasp on any video concepts at all and instead of looking n learning, they just kept asking questions which are clearly answered in a number of guides. I have no problems with going in depth with someone if they show some signs of grasping the point of what I am saying. Sometimes you geel like you're banging your head up against a wall, and that's when the Newbie-bash posts come thick and fast.

[makntraks]

One of my biggest gripes is the supposed newbie who comes in and says "I downloaded this 3-hour movie...", and we're supposed to look the other way just because a title wasn't mentioned. Like there's all these public-domain films out there that these 14-year-olds are tripping over themselves to download. Basically, if someone downloads a movie, it's pretty much warez. I mean, who's kidding who?

The other thing is that this site is DVDRHELP.COM, not The DVD Copying Forum Site. FIRST AND FOREMOST, people should be reading the guides and other information on this site. The forums, while immeasurably helpful, should be the absolute last resort for help.

Oh, and tekkieman, my dick is bigger than yours. I'd prove it in this forum, but there just isn't enough room man!

Sup' Sup - my thoughts exactly... see our comments in
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=216931&highlight=

makntraks

[makntraks]

An example of what I said earlier:

someone sent me a PM about joining AVIs with VBR Audio and that they couldn't modify the compression tab. I class them as type b) Ask another question in the forum because it worked last time .

I replied with:

Do these steps again (I have added 1 extra step):

1. Go into virtualdub and open the file.
2. Press OK to the error. go to the audio menu and set to Full Processing.
3. Go to the File menu and go to Save As WAV.
4. Close VirtualDub and reopen it.
5. Reopen the original AVI, Go to Audio menu and go to Full Processing.
6. Go to audio menu and go to WAV audio.
7. Browse to the WAV file you created.
8. Set your audio compression settings.
9. Goto the video menu and set to Direct Stream Copy.
10. Go to File Menu > Save As AVI.

The compression bit is not solid if there is No Audio selected or if audio is set to direct stream copy. my fault ! Try this. If it still doesn't work, please let me know which step is giving you issues.

The person replied that they didn't get it. So I replied:

Maybe your DivX player has a problem with MP3. Try using PCM Audio.

The person replied that they had one file in DivX and the other in XVid and still didn't get it. So I replied:

Yep, that is important. The one that is playing is using a divx codec. The one that isn't is using an XVid codec. That is why it won't play the video. Go back and do my instructions again, but instead of setting Video to Direct Stream Copy, set it to Full Processing. Then set the compression of the video to whatever it needs to be.

The person replied that they still didn't get it. So I replied:

Sounds like that codec doesn't like virtualdub. Try re-installing virtualdub. try re-installing the codec. Try converting to MPEG !

So, having used up all of my patience, I replied with:

I don't think video is for you.

and the winning reply was:

You want to say that I completely stupid and there is no chance for mi to get it or I miss something?

No shit dipshit. Need I say more ?

How much patience do I need to show ? This one person just kept asking questions because he/she was getting somewhere by doing so. They had no grasp on any video concepts at all and instead of looking n learning, they just kept asking questions which are clearly answered in a number of guides. I have no problems with going in depth with someone if they show some signs of grasping the point of what I am saying. Sometimes you geel like you're banging your head up against a wall, and that's when the Newbie-bash posts come thick and fast.

you've shown much more than I.... and wasted way to much time for such a trivial question...

Fangs away!
makntraks

[holistic]

...........and no one made any suggestions to stop the newbies, etc...

http://www.beerboozebooks.com/images/condom.jpg

[makntraks]

...........and no one made any suggestions to stop the newbies, etc...

http://www.beerboozebooks.com/images/condom.jpg

We should have been so lucky...

makntraks

[Fluffbutt]

...........and no one made any suggestions to stop the newbies, etc...

http://www.beerboozebooks.com/images/condom.jpg

Oh damn - two ROFL's in one day, this forum is the best!!!!

[Pwyll]

Have a look at the front dvdrhlp.com page. It IS a bit of a jumble (especially to a newbie).
I know it's annoying to have to do, but common sense is not common...

As a Noob myself, it took me 4 days of reading on this site before I even scrolled down far enough to see there was a forum here. You get on that first page the only things you see are What is this site about?, What Is, How To, and Latest Guides. So as a person who's only been reading this site for a month or less, I find it extremely odd that someone posts a Why Doesn't it Fit post since they actually had to scroll past all the relevant info to get to the forum, create a handle, and post their question when they could have answered it themselves in 3 minutes. AND I'm selfish and it makes it harder for me to search and find meaningful info when idiots waste space with posts like HEEEEELLLLLPPPP!!!, BIG TIME NOOB HELP HERE, WHAT'S DVD9...and it really is all about me.

[indolikaa]

My favorite ones are "EXPERTS ONLY, PLEASE!" because they're either cross-posts or questions that my ceiling fan could answer.

[fritzi93]

Even non-experts like me get the occasional PM asking for help. Somehow they got the impression I'm a kindly old uncle or something.

A few have gone well, with intelligent, polite exchanges and ultimate success. Then there are the damn fools who argue, refuse to try a few things, etc. Makes you feel like you're sinking in quicksand. Sooner or later, it comes down to: "don't contact me again".

Jimmalenko is just slightly more blunt about it than me.

[Kingnog]

jimmalenko ... that PM situation has happened with me many , many times. It's so annoying how complete NOOBS just ask random questions because they "saw me in a lot of posts", and just do NOT understand anything at all. And then after about 6-7 PM's in 10 mins, you dont even get a thanks. St00pids.

P.S. I hope this wards off any people considering PM-ing me

[teegee420]

jimmalenko ... that PM situation has happened with me many , many times. It's so annoying how complete NOOBS just ask random questions because they "saw me in a lot of posts", and just do NOT understand anything at all. And then after about 6-7 PM's in 10 mins, you dont even get a thanks. St00pids.

P.S. I hope this wards off any people considering PM-ing me

I guess I'm pretty lucky because all of my PM experiences have gone very well. I can't think of one occasion where a newbie wasn't respectful, courteous or lacking of basic skills necessary to follow my advice. I've had quite a few people who are completely aware of how a lot of noobs are perceived and are downright apologetic with statements like: "I'm really sorry to bother you", "I hate to bug you again" or my personal favorite: "I know you're probably sick of me now but..". As long as someone is capable of helping themself, I'm always happy to oblige.

[Renegade6]

I try to help people with what works for me. I am not an expert or claim to be one. I am still learning and trying out new software that others like.
The search guide carries alot of information and at time hard to find something. The how to guides are the greatest source of info. I do see
alot of people bringing down alot of newbies that shouldn't need to happen.
There are others that will help you.

[glockjs]

so many words in one post, i have a headache now im gonna go lay down

Yesterday, I decided to list all posts of one of these "key" individuals, and quickly learned that in their last 40-some-odd posts, never did provide one useful bit of information to the original poster, but did thoroughly attack them. While I enjoy the occasional flame war, and sometimes chuckle in my sleep over some of the obvious BS answers given here. I cringe when I see one of the newbies post something that deserves some of what they are about to get.

where was i, did i make the list? i'm tryin real hard ok...


im a newb til the day i die, got a tattoo on my ass..wanna see? but you gotta admit you do learn pretty quickly not to ask stooopid questions when you get flamed right away as a newb...

[jimmalenko]

As long as someone is capable of helping themself, I'm always happy to oblige.

Excellent point. I agree with that.

[offline]

The symptoms are often sarcasm, then arrogance then anger.

If you see a newbie post and then see red then it is time
for you to take a break from dvdrhelp.com imho. Everyone
here is expendable as there are experts coming of the
ranks all the time.

We have had some great people here
who I suspect just have burnt themselves out, got bored
with the whole scene, and gone on to pastures green.

Do what I do - hibernate ...and I have lurked here since .PS
(pre - Sefy)

@ Village : everyone reads your posts. One of your last ones
about making a R200 printing guide was a good suggestion.

-edit just checking some bad spelling/grammer-

[Will Hay]

tekkieman,
Good initial post, and an echo of my sentiments for a while.
I have long since advocated the use of yellow cards for those who goad and bait the newbie into tripping up, the ones who smell warez and then provoke an admission only to run to the complaints thread to make a post (and not before slamming this poor bastard in the initial thread).
Sure, on occassion I've let my lack of patience (and of late, my lack of sleep) get the better of me but in the main I maintain the stance that we all need different levels of help.
And yes, on occassion I regulaly let my foul-mouth run away with me, sometimes when provoked by those who deem themselves better than me and sometimes for the hell of it.
I assume I'm dealing with adults on this site and when offence is caused I always apologise.
Considering your subject title I make no apology for this, it is not for you to judge; that is for the moderators to act as they see fit.
As for your IQ/post count comment, I find this completely ill-judged, pathetic in fact, as it is nothing more than conjective with absolutely no foundation and your claim to experience?
Counts for nothing my friend, it already makes you sound like you feel elevated to those you seek to protect (by way of this thread).
Please, check my post history, it means nothing to me.
I come and go in patches, I'll spend an age in offtopic and mingle everywhere else.
This site has become a release for me and so what?
I take what I can and help out in other ways than posts.
I do as much as I want, not what I think is expected of me when others deem it necessary to judge based on a 'post count'.
Seventeen month old daughter?
You're right, it is a wonderful time.
I've been there, my boy is just two and his little sister arrived last month.
Wonderful, wonderful times.
Will Hay

[jaxxboss]

I farted

[Will Hay]

[tekkieman]

tekkieman,
Good initial post, and an echo of my sentiments for a while.
I have long since advocated the use of yellow cards for those who goad and bait the newbie into tripping up, the ones who smell warez and then provoke an admission only to run to the complaints thread to make a post (and not before slamming this poor bastard in the initial thread).
.....

Which was my point.

Considering your subject title I make no apology for this, it is not for you to judge; that is for the moderators to act as they see fit.

I did not judge. I stated MY opinion, offered a suggestion, and now leave it to the powers that be to decide for themselves. Sounds a little like what you said in your post - "I have long since advocated the use of yellow cards for those who ...." - does it not?

As for your IQ/post count comment, I find this completely ill-judged, pathetic in fact, as it is nothing more than conjective with absolutely no foundation ....

Find the comment however you wish. Again, it is MY opinion. I fired the shot across the bow. I'm prepared to take the return fire from those who felt attacked by it. It was not a general statement. It was directed to those few I have in my mind, and I am certain they will be the ones to respond to it. But, consider this, and please reply if you feel that I am mistaken, would my post have carried any more weight in some minds had my post count been in the thousands?

....and your claim to experience?
Counts for nothing my friend, it already makes you sound like you feel elevated to those you seek to protect (by way of this thread).

I don't recall asking for extra credit for this, and after re-reading it, I agree, it does make me sound that way. Whether or not I actually feel that way....maybe, maybe not. Why include it? A couple of reasons. An introduction; Felt like it; to show someone can be educated, experienced, and a newbie all at the same time. As I said, I created my first VCD with info from this site (which could have come from the most back-woods, inbred, MF around). Does it matter to me? Nope. It worked! Does my background or experience mean anything to you? Not by your post. Do I care? Nope. As I said, I don't need a verified resume to state an opinion.

Please, check my post history, it means nothing to me.

When I have more time. For no other reason than I find many responses here hilarious.

I've been there, my boy is just two and his little sister arrived last month.
Wonderful, wonderful times.
Will Hay

Congrats. We were lucky to have one. They said we couldn't. Having the one, we realize we're too old to have two. May they always be safe and loved!

[rkr1958]

tekkieman, Over a 1000 views on only your second post ... Now that's what I classify as a successful post and a good start.

Congrats. We were lucky to have one. They said we couldn't. Having the one, we realize we're too old to have two. May they always be safe and loved!

So were we ... I'm 45 and my wife is 39. Our son is adopted and my wife has health problems. Looks like 1 is all we're going to have. What a blessing they are.

[indolikaa]

tekkieman, Over a 1000 views on only your second post ... Now that's what I classify as a successful post and a good start.

We'll see how long it stays unlocked. THAT will be the tell-tale sign of his demeanor.

Why, we haven't even started a proper flame war yet... :P

[tekkieman]

Congrats. We were lucky to have one. They said we couldn't. Having the one, we realize we're too old to have two. May they always be safe and loved!

So were we ... I'm 45 and my wife is 39. Our son is adopted and my wife has health problems. Looks like 1 is all we're going to have. What a blessing they are.

We're reversed. I'm 39, the wife just turned 41 yesterday. Everyday I remember how lucky we are to have her.

[Will Hay]

Considering your subject title I make no apology for this, it is not for you to judge; that is for the moderators to act as they see fit.

I did not judge. I stated MY opinion, offered a suggestion, and now leave it to the powers that be to decide for themselves. Sounds a little like what you said in your post - "I have long since advocated the use of yellow cards for those who ...." - does it not?

Well, yes, clearly it does.
Why such a defence, my post was (directly) not a personal message to you, we seem to be agreeing yet I don't think you're entirely happy with that, regrettably.

As for your IQ/post count comment, I find this completely ill-judged, pathetic in fact, as it is nothing more than conjective with absolutely no foundation ....

Find the comment however you wish. Again, it is MY opinion. I fired the shot across the bow. I'm prepared to take the return fire from those who felt attacked by it. It was not a general statement. It was directed to those few I have in my mind, and I am certain they will be the ones to respond to it. But, consider this, and please reply if you feel that I am mistaken, would my post have carried any more weight in some minds had my post count been in the thousands?

I have absolutely no idea nor care.
For those people (for whom post count is important) mean nothing to me and again, it was an ill-judged remark without foundation and plus, it is not the problem you proclaim.
In the past I have requested Baldrick reset my post count, without success.
If your comments are aimed directly at individuals and you wish to ensure their response then name them, please, none of this pussy-footing around.

Please, check my post history, it means nothing to me.

When I have more time. For no other reason than I find many responses here hilarious.

You see, this is where you fail.
Now you border on arrogance which is third for me behind racists and bigots.

I've been there, my boy is just two and his little sister arrived last month.
Wonderful, wonderful times.
Will Hay

Congrats. We were lucky to have one. They said we couldn't. Having the one, we realize we're too old to have two. May they always be safe and loved!

Then, like me, you're blessed, congratulations.
Will Hay

[richdvd]

I have long since advocated the use of yellow cards for those who goad and bait the newbie into tripping up, the ones who smell warez and then provoke an admission only to run to the complaints thread to make a post (and not before slamming this poor bastard in the initial thread).

Warez doesn't belong on here at all.
You think people should be warned for getting newbies to admit warez?
Newbies agree to the rules here before they post.
I see "NO WAREZ" quite clearly on the rules and all over this site.
If they trip up, they should get flamed and reported.