The Final Decision - DVD9 to DVD5

[Cunhambebe]

I have read many tutorials (the easy ones and the difficult ones) on how to make DVD9 to DVD5. I could even wright a thesis on this subject. That's really impressive how many ways one can choose to do that. Now I was just wondering the best, I said, the best way to do that, I mean, a way to encode or whatever, the dvd riped file so as to fit on a DVD5 WITH NO LOSS OF QUALITY.
One more question s'il vous plaît - is there a difference in quality between these easy and those difficult and more elaborate ways to fit a DVD9 on a DVD5?
I mean, the video quality with the easy ways is poorer and the more difficult ones is better - is there any relation?

[Sifaga]

9 dosnt go into 5, something has to give

[DeleriumMDK]

Ive been using DVDShrink for sometime. If theres a lot of extras I shrink those to the max, see how little the main movie needs. Then I cut out extra audio, if its still too high compression I do movie only, cut out unnecesary audio tracks and then its usually fine. Usually the quality is still damn good. There is no way to make a DVD-9 fit one DVD-R without SOME quality loss, or ripping stuff out but usually the difference is hard to notice. If I were you I'd get some rewriteable media and experiment, see if the results are to your liking. This can be an expensive hobby and if I'm unsure of something I ALWAYS do a test burn on a RW disc first.

[Sifaga]

9 goes into 10 quite well ( 2 DVD5's )

9 - 4 goes into 5 ( get rid of stuff )

9 does not go into 5

[jimmalenko]

Agreed with the above.

There is a difference between no loss of quality and no noticeable loss of quality though.

Unless you split to 2 DVDRs, there is no possible way until DL burning and media becomes possible and available.

[Cunhambebe]

Thanks to all who have responded. I've already tried 2 ways:

1)with Shrink DVD: adding only the intro, an extra and the main movie. Result: IMAGE IS CLEAR. On a 19" pc monitor, the compression action is fully noticeable; from some seconds to some seconds, u can see some granulation on the screen. Zooming can make things even worse.

2)with dvd2one: adding only the main movie and the subtitles.
Result: IMAGE IS LESS CLEAR (something that can mask the compression action) but I'd say the final result is almost the same thing as the one described above; u have the illusion the image is better because of the blured amount.

Decision at this moment: Keep both Shrink DVD and DVD2ONE; both are fantastic. On the other hand, I'd rather rip and burn the whole thing on 2 dvds, splitting the movie. The day we'll finally find 9 media, we'll be able to fix this, joining again the movie, while the ones who burn nowadays tru the compressed way, won't.

[jimmalenko]

Even the originals can look grainy on your computer. Try them on a standalone.

[Cunhambebe]

One more thing:

I'd kindly ask the extraterrestrial who wrote this ...

9 - 4 goes into 5 ( get rid of stuff )

9 does not go into 5

...to make this statement clearer, pleassssse

[Cunhambebe]

I certainly know what a standalone is...but what do u mean by try them on a standalone (them what lolllll?) (what standalone?)

[teegee420]

Your standalone DVD player, i.e. the one connected to your TV.

[snapperv6]

One more thing:

I'd kindly ask the extraterrestrial who wrote this ...

9 - 4 goes into 5 ( get rid of stuff )

9 does not go into 5

...to make this statement clearer, pleassssse

Let a noob try guessing;

DVD9 = 9Gb, DVD5 = 5Gb ('ish I know)

DVD9 - 4 = DVD5 -> 9Gb - 4Gb = 5Gb - Ditch 4Gb of data

DVD9 does not go into DVD5 -> 9Gb won't fit on 5Gb media

Am I correct, if not... take me to your leader...

[holistic]

Let a noob try guessing;

DVD9 = 9Gb, DVD5 = 5Gb ('ish I know)

DVD9 - 4 = DVD5 -> 9Gb - 4Gb = 5Gb - Ditch 4Gb of data

DVD9 does not go into DVD5 -> 9Gb won't fit on 5Gb media

Am I correct, if not... take me to your leader...

Well done snapperv6, it's good to see a few of us aren't on dimmers and are still using full wattage bulbs.

[SammyTBull]

Wait a while - Sony promises dual layer burners in 2/3 months; other companies will follow...

[Shudder]

2-3 months = at least 6. Affordable? 10.

And this is Sony, the company that routinely pumps the hell out of its specs for any product, then releases it completely unfinished, promising to add the pumped functionality at a later date.

I wouldn't be surprised if sony's dual layer burners didn't do dual layer at all until a "future firmware update"

That and the media'll be a bit more expensive. So we're talking well over a year before DL burning is as affordable as it is now.. Till then, we have these issues to hammer out.

[Sifaga]

Well done snapper

[Cunhambebe]

Thanks to all who took time to respond. Sorry for the Et remark...just kidding...Now I've got another problem, this time with TMPGENC. The mpeg2 files generated with its plug-in open as mpv. You've got to rename them as mpeg to let them be opend by Windows Media Player. However, they cannot be opened with Vegas and DVDA. Why? I'd like to know a way to fix this. Thanks in advance.

[andyp1]

TMPGenc DVD Author accepts m2v files.
They should open to play them in PowerDVD or WinDVD
An m2v file is just video so you will not get sound .

This is completely unrelated to ripping DVD9 to fit on a DVD-R , what are you trying to do.

[Cunhambebe]

Sorry folks,
I'll try to to open another topic for that.