Movie works.. No sound after backup *Fustrated*

[X-treme]

If someone could PLEASE help me out I would greatly appreciate it.
I've tried posting in another section, but no one cares to respond, and I believe this is a 'faster' paced section.

I have tried backing up Bad boys: Special edition, but after each attempt I'm left with a great quality picture, but NO AUDIO! I cannot hear anything after burning the movie and playing in my standalone player, or viewing with Power Dvd.

I have tried to use dvd decryptor and instant copy 8, selecting each audio format available (even all at once), but nothing. As well, I tried Dvdshrink, and once again, NOTHING.

If my own standalone dvd player or power dvd can't play the audio, something must be totally corrupt.

I was reading in regards to certain versions of Power Dvd not having the 'newest' updates, but I'm positive I have the latest Power Dvd on the market. It illustrates all the acceptable audio's (dts, dolby 5.1 etc...)

What's my next step? I've re-ripped this movie at least 8 times today and I give up. After hours of searching, I have found nothing to ease my pain

Please, someone offer some light!

Thanks

[Faithful Follower]

Hi, I don't know if I can help but why don't you download VOBEdit and de-mux the vob's all elementry streams and post them? Then maybe someone have a clue why there's no dialogues on your backup.

I for got to mention, yuor other post says you have back ground music but no spoken dialogue?

[X-treme]

Thank you for the reply.

Sorry, i forgot to mention that I do have back ground music but no spoken dialogue. That is correct.

I'll get that program and post whatever I discover.

Thanks!

[X-treme]

Are these the streams you are talking about?

0x20 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 17525 / PTS: 00:00:53.928 / Delay: 53887ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Français - [SubPicture 02: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 17514 / PTS: 00:00:53.895 / Delay: 53853ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Español - [SubPicture 03: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 17523 / PTS: 00:00:53.928 / Delay: 53887ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Portugues - [SubPicture 04: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 17377 / PTS: 00:00:53.294 / Delay: 53253ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Chinese - [SubPicture 05: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 17483 / PTS: 00:00:53.761 / Delay: 53720ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Korean - [SubPicture 06: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 17481 / PTS: 00:00:53.761 / Delay: 53720ms
0x26 - Subtitle - Thai - [SubPicture 07: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 17480 / PTS: 00:00:53.761 / Delay: 53720ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 9 / PTS: 00:00:00.041 / Delay: 0ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 8 / PTS: 00:00:00.041 / Delay: 0ms
0x82 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Español / LBA: 7 / PTS: 00:00:00.041 / Delay: 0ms
0x83 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 6 / PTS: 00:00:00.041 / Delay: 0ms
0x84 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 5 / PTS: 00:00:00.041 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x480 (NTSC) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.041 / Delay: 0ms

[Faithful Follower]

I see there are 4 english audio streams, when you re-author the movie did you leave out any of them?

[X-treme]

No, I kept ALL of them in just to make sure and it still doesn't work.

That's what I don't understand.

[Faithful Follower]

I'm sorry I can't help you any further, hopefully some more knowledgeble members will catch this thread and help you.
BTW, have you tried playing the original in your computer without problem?

[X-treme]

I made sure the original worked perfectly. So yes, it works great!

[jimmalenko]

I guess we should narrow down to where the problem is. Firstly, make sure that your ripping software is not stripping out streams. The easiest way to do this is, after ripping, to open PowerDVD, press the Open Files button, go to Open DVD File on Hard Disk Drive, and navigate to the VIDEO_TS.IFO file. See if there is audio here. If not, there is something wrong with either the ripping software, or the sound setup on your PC.

I want you to try something for me. Use DVDShirnk and do a complete backup - every single stream enabled regardless of whether you want them or not. We will not be burning the output so it really doesn't matter. Once shirnk is done, Load the newly created VIDEO_TS.IFO into PowerDVD as described above. Check for sound.

As a final fallback, check with an AVI or MPEG that sound is still working on your PC.

...and head up, we'll figure it out eventually. It's not that no-one cared to respond. No-one will respond if they don't know the answer.

[X-treme]

Jimmalenko, Thanks your for post.

Here's what I've gathered thus far.

I've just used dvdshrink and I ripped the entire movie will all the audio settings. I played teh VIDEO_TS.IFO with Power Dvd and it works, although at some points in the movie the audio becomes choppy/out of sync. That may have been a result of me trying to view different parts of the movie; however, I do I have audio now.

I do not understand what I did differently from dvddecrptor/instant copy 8, then with dvdshrink. It seems dvdshrink has some different settings?

What's my next step jimmalenko?

Thanks again

[X-treme]

One last thing, the original movie is widscreen, but after ripping and viewing with Power dvd, the movie becomes Full screen. Why is that?

[X-treme]

I'm still stumped..

After ripping the entire movie to my hd and playing it, it works fine.
I can use dvdshrink and I can shrink it to 4.37gig, but I DO NOT want the extras or anything. I just want the movie, in widescreen, not fullscreen (because it alters it)

I tried copying the entire movie using dvddecryptor/instant copy 8, and nothing.. I left everything normal, did not adjust anything except decreasing the quality to 35% so I can fit it all on one dvd, and still no audio; however, dvdshrink works?

Can someone help me out?

Is there a reason why instant copy 8 will not allow me to hear any audio?

Also, I will resort to dvdshrink if there is someway for me to only have the movie and menus at 100%. I can't seem to find any way to do it?

Thanks for any help in advance!

[Faithful Follower]

X-treme,

This may sound stupid, but have you try selecting all four streams of the English audio tracks with your first burns? Reason I ask, 'cos I remember reading about some authoring apps will default on certain substreams when in play. And since your movie has 4 tracks for one language, it could be that the movie studio dubbed the dialogue and background music in seperate recordings?

[Faithful Follower]

Damn I'm confused too

When you claimed PowerDVD would only show full screen from your rip, thats probably because you didn't rip the other angle? There must be two anlges involved when you have both wide and full screen. I had problems with IC8 when I tried ripping a multi angle disc too. But not with audio...

Try checking the setting in DVDdecripter, click on tool>setting, next to the general tab on the top is file mode tap, click that and underneath option there's a check box for Multi Angle processing. Check that and find out where the vob file of the wide screen angle movie is in and select that number.
Rip the sucker again and see if you have audio now.

[X-treme]

Faithful Follower, my 'multi-angle' box was not checked. I wonder if that will solve my problem.

What's the purpose of the 'multi-angle? (I'll have to search some more about this one too)

[Faithful Follower]

Multi angle usually means the DVD contains a wide screen and full screen version of the movie. Sometimes it also could have 2 different endings of the movie. You said the vob files you ripped is full screen, try finding the wide screen group of vobs with DVDDecripter with the way I'd mentioned.