VHS Copy Protection Question

[JRW160]

I am trying to convert some of my old footbally highlight films to dvd. I just captured the first one and a white rectangle shows up in the middle of the screen every minute or so and stays there for about 10 seconds. I am assuming this is macrovision, but I don't know why this tape would be copy protected, because it is home made. I did a search and found some people recommending the SIMA CopyThis. WIll this remove the white box? I don't want to spend $50 if it isn't going to do me any good.

[holistic]

screenshot?

NOT macrovision.
Off the top of my head, could it possibly be the "icon" some VCRs display when changing modes. ie : > play

[rhegedus]

Is the white box there when you play the video on TV?

[JRW160]

screenshot?

NOT macrovision.
Off the top of my head, could it possibly be the "icon" some VCRs display when changing modes. ie : > play

EDIT: Here is a link to the screenshot:

[JRW160]

Is the white box there when you play the video on TV?

The white box is not there when the video is played on a tv.

[holistic]

The white box is not there when the video is played on a tv.

Possible - watermark from the capture software. What software did you use for capture?

To get a screen shot , get a copy of virtualdub - export frame.

[JRW160]

The white box is not there when the video is played on a tv.

Possible - watermark from the capture software. What software did you use for capture?

To get a screen shot , get a copy of virtualdub - export frame.

I got the screenshot. I used Virtual VCR to do the capture with the video in on my GF4.

The video is fine sometimes, then sometimes the white boax appears for a few seconds.

[JRW160]

After further reasearch, I think it may be a problem with the WDM drivers I am using. I am gonna try some older drivers and see what happens.

[holistic]

. O.K goodluck with that.

It will be intresting to know the fix.

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[gmatov]

Your computer is smarter than your TV. It knows the refs don't like instant replay, makes them look like airheads, so it puts a white patch over the play.

Bseball doesn't like the o'head camera to show you the HP Ump is blind as a bat, hockey doesn't like the over the net cam, either.

(Actually, I don't know the answer to your prob, but this looked like a good place to interject this. You never see this prob with Soccer or basketball, the ball is too big, every body can see what just happened.)

Never heard of such a thing, BTW.

Cheers,

George

[JRW160]

. O.K goodluck with that.

It will be intresting to know the fix.

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I am working on it now. I will let you know if I get the problem solved. Thanks for your timely responses and help.

[bunyip]

Hi JRW160,

You're on the right track - this is how these cards handle macrovision, but it is also triggered by poor VHS signals, typically from ageing tapes - I have had this problem myself.

My solution was to install the version 1.08 WDM driver, which is not macrovision aware, works fine now.

[SatStorm]

This is not macrovision or any kind of protection. It is a well known problem of the nvidia cards. To solve it, you need the correct driver / software for your card (the "universal" drivers don't work for all cards...).

Read this, it might solve your problems:

http://www.tek-tips.com/gviewthread.cfm/lev2/66/lev3/68/pid/ 749/qid/155668

[JRW160]

The problem I am having now, is actually getting the 1.08 drivers installed. I uninstall the WDM drivers, then restart. Then I run the 1.08 WDM installer and it restarts the computer. When the computer comes back up it finds all the new hardware, then when I install automatically it outs the version 2.20 drivers back. I can't figure out where to tell it to get the 1.08 drivers (install drivers form a specific location) or where to delete the version 2.20 drivers from.

[rhegedus]

Isn't there a a utility to wipe a PC and it's registry of drivers for your card? - check the Leadtek site.

Failing that, make a note of the files it copies to your PC and delete them individually.

[victor010170]

Satstorm is correct. It is not any kind of protection. I ran into copy protection on vhs three times. to solve, I connect vcr to my digital camcorder, use firewire to pc. Open windv and capture it. I do not record to camcorder since my cam has pass-through analog to digital. After capture movie, i use tmpgenc to encode and then burn. Movie is fine. Laterly, I also use virtualdub to edit the movie before encode it. Movie looked sharper and color looked much better.

[vh5150]

This is not macrovision or any kind of protection. It is a well known problem of the nvidia cards. To solve it, you need the correct driver / software for your card (the "universal" drivers don't work for all cards...).

Read this, it might solve your problems:

http://www.tek-tips.com/gviewthread.cfm/lev2/66/lev3/68/pid/ 749/qid/155668

should be:

http://www.tek-tips.com/gviewthread.cfm/lev2/66/lev3/68/pid/749/qid/155668

[macleod]

never seen this one before. Think a TBC(time Base Corrector) might help?

[SatStorm]

It is a "'usual" problem. Seems to happens randomly with nvidia cards (because of drivers / mobos / other crazy things), when you are unlucky enough.
There is always a solution, but you have to search for the right combo (drivers / capture programs).
The link I provided discuss this thing 3 years now! (it is focusing on asus nvidia cards, but the tips provided there can help anyone with those problems).

[fmctm1sw]

It knows the refs don't like instant replay, makes them look like airheads, so it puts a white patch over the play.

So THAT'S why that white box showed up two years ago when Joe Nedney took a nosedive after a botched field goal in the playoffs. He should have got an award for that acting job..... Ok, off my rant, couldn't resist