fake ritek? 4 straight failures

[jeex]

i bought a 50 pack of ritek g04 in a spindle.. the first disc burned just fine.. the next 4 failed.. i tried closing all user processes (even explorer) except recordnow max..

the discs fail at various points.. 300mb, 500mb, 3100mb, 3200mb..

the discs have a matte top & have "ridata" stamped on the hub.

i'm burning them with a pioneer 106d.

below is a picture of the media id code;



a friend of mine gave me a ritek g04 dvd-r with a silver top.. here is the media code for it;



any clue as to whats going on here?

[Bob W]

Make sure your hard drive is DMA enabled and not in PIO mode.

[jeex]

yep, its in dma (both channels)

[Bob W]

Have your friend burn one of your discs and see if if fails or burn one of his.

[porphyra]

This is not uncommon. Riteks are known for producing unreliable batches where some/all discs are faulty. I have had miserable experiences myself. Were these RiDATA packed red packaged discs? They seem to be the worst.

Good luck with the rest.

[jeex]

This is not uncommon. Riteks are known for producing unreliable batches where some/all discs are faulty. I have had miserable experiences myself. Were these RiDATA packed red packaged discs? They seem to be the worst.

Good luck with the rest.

yeah, they were in a red wrapper.. as soon as i recieved the discs i put them all in cases.

so, i've got a bad batch?

[DVDJunkee]

yeah i got one of those red packs, and the damn things failed 3/3 so far. the first 100 riteks i had were awesome with not a single problem, but these ones are driving me crazy

[porphyra]

Those red ridata discs are terrible. I had a 50 pack and all 50 were defective. The experience left me so bitter that i have never bought a ritek again.

[jeex]

no wonder i got a good deal on them (50 for $51 shipped).. hopefully the guy isnt an ******* about taking them back and exchanging them for something wortha shit.

your help is much appreciated.

[QuaiBoy]

I've burned at least 700 "Red Pack" Ridata G04s from Rima and Newegg with ZERO coasters. Just ordered another 100 from Rima, and expect the same perfect results. Have recommended to others with Pioneer burners, no complaints from anyone. Burning with a Pioneer A06.

Best of luck to all finding media fully compatible with your writers,
-Evan-

[CaseyComb]

I bought a couple "Red Pack" 50 packs with no problems whatsoever on 3 different burners.

[timmyp]

I'm working through my first batch of those red-packaged Riteks and I must agree that they really suck. These are NOT the same quality Riteks that I've used in the past. I don't know what happened... maybe it IS my burner, maybe it IS my burning program. Personally, I don't care to try and figure it out - I just won't be buying Riteks again when Prodisc and Maxell and Philips media are working just fine for me.

Just my 2 cents.....

[smearbrick1]

I don't think you can make a general statement that all red packaged ridatas suck. I've had several hundred and no errors. In anything that is made in such quantity, don't you expect bad batches? I realize it's tough to deal, but I wouldn't make a general statement and bash ridata "reds" because you had a few coasters.

[DeleriumMDK]

The discs are only as good as the dealer you buy them off of IMO. I'm using these Ridata matte finish G04's packaged in a red plastic in a cakebox purchased off newegg.com, not one problem yet. Ive burnt 30 and no problems with any of them.

[lordsmurf]

When RITEK switched to red packs, I saw a decrease too. May not mean anything, but it indicates something's rotten going on.

[adam]

Right on smearbrick1. Far too much generalizing goes on with media due to the limitless variables that result in either a coaster or a so called, "flawless burn."

I see that porphyra is from Canada, myself and probably others are from the states, and jeex is apparantly in my mom...mostly. We are all buying from different retailers in different countries who all buy from different manufacturing plants. The Ridata Ritek that jeex bought is not necessary the same line that I buy.

Maybe you guys just got bad batches. (my personal theory.) Maybe you are buying from a retailer who uses a crap manufacterer. Maybe Ritek's popularity is finally catching up with them and they can't both meet demand and continue to manufacture a quality product. I don't know, but I have happily surpassed the 1500th Ridata Ritek burn without a problem. All my customers are happy and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend that someone buy these disk as long as they go through a reputable retailer like Rima.com.

[rgtaa]

wierd thread!
I can understand UNBRANDED ritek G4's that alot of places selling really cheap being defective ... but ... 90 percent of everyone I talk to ...LOVES the Ridata G4's ...

Are you sure you got the Ridata G4's and not the cheap unbranded crap that some of these threads are refering to.

I have burned 200 ridata's and maybe 2 or 3 bad ones ...mostly because I was doing 4 or 5 things on my computer when I was burning at 4x!

Pioneer 06 and nero.

Click on the Media Tab and click on the MOST POPULAR and ritek G4's are it! TOP one out of the whole bunch! The Ridata's are GRADE A!

[hech54]

I use Ritek G03's and G04's and they are awesome.
If you buy Ritek's from "Some Guy Named Bob".....your more likely to get burned (Yes....pun intended) in my opinion.
And to say that ALL Ritek's are junk because "Some Guy Named Bob" sold you a stack of klunkers is nonsense.

Reminds me of a bumper sticker I once had on my VW Scirocco...it said:


"Is My Mercedes Foreign Junk Too?"

[lordsmurf]

My nasties all came from RIMA.COM ... the shiny silvers and the matte silvers... only ORANGE ones from MERITLINE and the INKJET from RIMA were any good in recent months.

I've now dumped RITEK personally

[rgtaa]

My nasties all came from RIMA.COM ... the shiny silvers and the matte silvers... only ORANGE ones from MERITLINE and the INKJET from RIMA were any good in recent months.

I've now dumped RITEK personally

Gee!
What is your preference now?
please list link to it ...because I'm willing to try something else ... if 3 or 4 of you guys are jumping ship on ridata G4's ... I figured it was just the unbranded ones that all these places sell cheap that were questionable ... but if you are all saying the Red PACK ridata's that NEWEGG and Meritine sell have bad qualitiy control ... I'll have to look into this further.

[stiltman]

I just picked up 50 orange tops last week. I went through them all soon as I got home to see if any of them had bad ink layers. You know the streaks or circles that look lighter than the rest. Well all of them looked flawless to the naked eye. Bought them from PC Club

[rgtaa]

I just picked up 50 orange tops last week. I went through them all soon as I got home to see if any of them had bad ink layers. You know the streaks or circles that look lighter than the rest. Well all of them looked flawless to the naked eye. Bought them from PC Club

Now it's the crap from PC Club ...like he says the orange tops ...that are considered G4's that people here complain about ... also Pc club's high shipping costs and unlabeled G4's! Very confused!

[stiltman]

I just picked up 50 orange tops last week. I went through them all soon as I got home to see if any of them had bad ink layers. You know the streaks or circles that look lighter than the rest. Well all of them looked flawless to the naked eye. Bought them from PC Club

Now it's the crap from PC Club ...like he says the orange tops ...that are considered G4's that people here complain about ... also Pc club's high shipping costs and unlabeled G4's! Very confused!

Yeap some people sat the Ritek orange top G04's from PC Club are crap. I personally, have never had any problems with them. I think I'm on about 100 by now. Unfortunately, I will not be buying them anymore though, as I just bought myself an Epson R200 today. I now need to find some good printable DVD-Rs that are as reliable as the orange tops were for me.

BTW, I order the orange tops on the web from PC Club, but I pick them up at their store, as the disks are rarely in stock, and I don't want to pay the shipping. I just order off the web to make sure my DVD are held for me when they receive their weekly allotment.

[Stas]

Don't put all coasters on count of Ritek quality - it is great!

In most of the cases there are some software issues. On PIII/800 MHz with 4 harddrives, working at UDMA Mode 2 you can't be sure that the reason is not your system. Check the media on other systems and/or burners!

[jeex]

i would think that myself, except for the fact that it can burn maxell (ricohjpn01) @ 4x without blinking.

[QuaiBoy]

i would think that myself, except for the fact that it can burn maxell (ricohjpn01) @ 4x without blinking.

Writer/firmware/software incompatibility with this particular media? IMO, media gets the blame too often for user/system error.
-Evan-

[disturbed1]

This is a very strange thing with Ritek.

I thought I was disturbed by saying Ritek doesn't work for me. It used to work great, but then nothing but coasters.

Then we have all of these 15,000+ flawless burns. You guys (Adam and BJ_M) make me sick :P I should bill you for the hours/days of trouble shooting I've done to try and find some problem as to why Ritek doesn't give me the same flawless results.

But I've come to the conclusion, it works for some and doesn't work for others.

I had 2 50 packs of Ritek matted that were giving me problems across 4 Pioneer A05s. I took them to a budies house, and they burnt fine on his system with his A05 (same firmware). So we swapped out drives, put my A05(s) in his system. My A05 still produced coasters with the Riteks.

So now I only use Prodisc and Taiyo Yuden.

[Hawseman]

Those matte Ridata's are junk...

They have a serious balance issue. I've got two totally different systems that have the same issue with that media. I can't get a good burn over 3.8gb. I have a Liteon and a Pioneer (which can burn on cardboard), I've used Nero, RecordNow, DVDXCopy, CloneDVD, etc. I've been through firmware changes and I've burned at 1x, 2x and 4x. I swapped the drives in my two systems.

Since then I've burned Maxell printables, Maxell yellow tops, Fuji TY's, Verbatim MCC's, Sony 2x, Memorex 4x CMC's and RICOHJPN +R (tdk, maxell, memorex) media successfully at full 4.38gb. Every once in a while, I'll break out that Ridata spindle to see if, by some miracle, they have healed with age.....same result every time.

I know Ritek die is top notch....the good part of the disk I'd rate up there with the Maxells and TY's. I scan very low PI/PO errors.

Jeex can burn 4x +R media fine...chances are, it's the media.

[adam]

Don't feel bad disturbed1, I don't have some weird luck with Riteks that you don't...I've never burnt a coaster with any brand of media I think once a 4x only burnt at 2x, other than that no problems.

I think a very large part of it is hardware. I love my Sony DRU500AX w/ latest firmware. I've tried all kinds of media and it all works fine for me. Sure compatibility is a toss up from one media to next, but they all at least play on my pc and my Apex, so I know the burn itself is fine.

But like I said, there are just way too many variables to narrow it down to anything definitive...especially, "all x media sucks." (unless you are talking about the real cheap stuff.)

[intelliQ]

Ive had good luck buying from Meritline, except their delivery is slow.
I've used Prime 1x, Ritek G03, Ritek G04, and Accu 1x printables, all are minus R's. I average about 2 DVD's per 50on all brands that get screwed up because of my own fault, not the media.
I use DVD Shrink 3.1.7 and a NEC ND1300 A and it takes about 1 hour from start to finish per DVD.

(I gave up on CloneDVD/AnyDVD trials because of pixelation, synch issues, and directors comments being stuck on the main track.)

I just bought 100 Accu 1x printables and 100 cases for $111/delivered.
They work great.

I've noticed that no matter what brand media I get, they all have rough edges, but that doesn seem to hurt any.