Sony announces their dual layer dvd burners.

[jeex]

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/9332

$230 for internal
$330 for external

not bad, not bad at all..

hopefully good dual layer media isnt more than $3 (to start off)..

and i'm also counting on dvd decrypter to give us a one-click solution to backup up our dvd's

[Gristle McThornbody]

DVD+R Dual Layer only..... hmmm....

[tompika]

and i'm also counting on dvd decrypter to give us a one-click solution to backup up our dvd's

http://www.dvddecrypter.com/changelog.asp

DVD Decrypter 3.2.0.0 (29/02/2004)

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Added: 'Untested' support for Double Layer +R media burning
...

[jeex]

yes, i'm aware of that.. thats why i'm counting on them.

[tompika]

...or just run AnyDVD 3 in the background and copy them on-the-fly with Nero 6306 or the next version...

[bbllc]

I love the Sony DRU 530A, so I guess that I will be first in line to purchase the new model. I am really looking forward to being able to make complete backups of my movies, and to be able to squeeze more episodes on my favorites shows that are saved on my Tivo.

Thanks for the info.

[jeex]

can you imagine the explosion of sales/popularity that will happen once these dual layer burners come out? people will be able to make 1:1 backups of their dvd's without any complication.

[Redd]

This is great news for me. Thanks for the tip.

[Perro Grande]

I'm eager to get my hands on one of the DL drives, too.

I can't help but wonder how long it will be before set-top units cut over to Dual Layer... Look for a LOT of single layer units on e-bay cheap if no upgrade path is available...

I usually don't jump on the newest technology right away -- it just costs too much when it is new. However, this may be an exception!

[Greg12]

Can anyone confirm this

I've read that duel layer dvd's are gonna be 8.5 gigs, not 9.4.

that would apparently make a 1:1 backup impossible.

[Sooner02]

DVD+R Dual Layer only..... hmmm....

Why only DVD+R dual layer???

[CloudBurst]

Probably because DVD-DL is not available yet with an unknown release date as of yet.

[jaxxboss]

Can anyone confirm this

I've read that duel layer dvd's are gonna be 8.5 gigs, not 9.4.

that would apparently make a 1:1 backup impossible.

Well, all u need to do is remove the frign advertising and langauges you dont need and what have ya, u will get a pretty darn good dvd replica.

Why only DVD+R dual layer???

Because one of 2 reasons. Either because -R suck or they are really waiting to fine tune their units for perfection ...LMFAO, sorry, I tried to keep a straight face on that but just couldnt.
2.4x is so slow compared to burning at 8x rught now and the price of the discs are going to be somewhat more expensive than what we are paying now. Not to mention what happens when a NEW design hits the consumer markets, you just dont know what kinds of bugs there will be.
yea yea I know.... the companies are already testing these and probably have been for a while to ensure there aint any bugs, but hey look at the automotive industry.... You never know.

[ghoster]

230 bucks thats it? i was thinking more like 400 to 500 bucks for these dual layer burners.

[Sooner02]

Sony said they will release them at the end of the second quarter.

[CloudBurst]

Anywho I was almost sure that 8.5 was the pressed dual layer standard and 9.5 was for those flipper (junk) things.

[jaxxboss]

Forgot to mention that I will also need an ink-jet printable dual layer disc.
Guess that will be further down the road and of course by then maybe there will be a 4x dual layer burner or possibly a 4x dual layer/dual format burner. OF course by then I will still need a 4x ink-jet printable 4x disc.
Where does the madness stop?

[galactica]

it will stop whenever we transition into whatever replaces DVD's in the future...

but for now im sure we are all getting our pre-orders ready for this baby

[SergeantD]

no commercial movies are over 8.5 gb so 8.5 dual layer media is all you need for 1:1 conversion. It is a false notion to think that 9.4 is the dual layer standard when it is not.

[Faustus]

So the Phillips should be out in April, and the Sony End of Q2. Looks like Phillips will be first with +R DL.

Interesting...

[HAMP]

I notice a few people are talking about 1:1 copying, I see an excellent opportunity here for 2 movie’s on 1 disk, the current compression is excellent and I don’t see anything wrong with it, I do know that some movies will benefit with the Dual Layer because of some high compression needed to make them fit.

[jeex]

2 movies on one disc? no thanks.. i'll take a 1:1 copy any day of the week.

before dual layer burners were out, i kinda liked movies that were single layer or had a f/s & w/s version on the same disc so i could have untouched video.

[Faustus]

I notice a few people are talking about 1:1 copying, I see an excellent opportunity here for 2 movie’s on 1 disk, the current compression is excellent and I don’t see anything wrong with it, I do know that some movies will benefit with the Dual Layer because of some high compression needed to make them fit.

And so it begins...

[djelimon]

The question is... will dual layer disks be less than twice what a single layer costs?

[Craig Tucker]

The question is... will dual layer disks be less than twice what a single layer costs?

Almost certainly not to begin with, but as with all new mass marketed technology, give it time and the price will come down.

[mbaker_jr]

One of my big questions is the layer switch. I am guessing that we will need new authoring software that allows for creation of dual layer discs and (hopefully) lets the user decide where the switch will be.

Also, I am sure that we will be facing a whole new compatibility nightmare with standalone players. Will DVD+R DL discs play fine on all players that are compatible with single layer DVD+R discs? Probably not. Will some players freeze at the layer switch? I don't doubt it.

Don't get me wrong, I am very excited at the prospect of Dual Layer DVD burning, I am just hesitant to become an early adopter due to the likelihood of compatibility issues.

MBJ

[shelbyGT]

i'm always on the tail-end of adopting new technologies when it comes to computers. I can live with a non-state of the art system if it is still cheap.
while this is cool, questions still remain (like compatibility, etc).

I'll let you all work out the kinks so it's easy for me

[wings]

I notice a few people are talking about 1:1 copying, I see an excellent opportunity here for 2 movie’s on 1 disk, the current compression is excellent and I don’t see anything wrong with it, I do know that some movies will benefit with the Dual Layer because of some high compression needed to make them fit.

Are we talking about coping store bought or rented DVD movies? I thought that was illegal?

[triphop]

Don't start that again. Remember you can do anything you like, just don't discuss any illegal activities in this forum. You might think its hypocritical but its also logical. I would rather not have this place shutdown.

[jeex]

Also, I am sure that we will be facing a whole new compatibility nightmare with standalone players. Will DVD+R DL discs play fine on all players that are compatible with single layer DVD+R discs? Probably not. Will some players freeze at the layer switch? I don't doubt it.

Don't get me wrong, I am very excited at the prospect of Dual Layer DVD burning, I am just hesitant to become an early adopter due to the likelihood of compatibility issues.

MBJ

from what i've read the dual layer discs are supposed to be more compatible than DVD-R & DVD+R.

i really dont think the problems are going to be as bad as you're forcasting.