Burners are not the same...

[Anonymous65]

Until recently, I had a 4x CD-RW burner (Teac) and have an Apex-660 DVD player for testing my VCDs. I could not get ANY CD-RW to play in the Apex without lots of blocks and loss of audio because the Apex could not read the CD-RW correctly. I just got a new 16x burner, and now I can use the same CD-RWs and get perfect playback on the Apex. I didn't realize that the quality of the burn on a CD vary that much from one burner to another. It looks like some burns a "deeper" grove than others, making them easier to read.

[Sefy]

I think it's also the compatibility of the DVD Player itself, not just the burner, especialy if you are abl to play that same CDRW which didn't work on your Apex and if it does work on a diffrenet DVD Player.

[Im[CuRsED]]

Very tru...The same is also tru for dvd players...SOme read diffrently...I have a sony dvd player and had one vcd that was really blocky but on the my friends dvd player it played great...One thing im wondering is i had windows Me (eViL) and i burned alot of vcd's and i also made some that blocked up alot...Now that i have Windows Xp everything is more stable and havent made a vcd yet that had any blocks in it...I think there are alot of factors on getting blocks and glitches on ur vcd's...if anyone has any ideas submit it cuz im wondering what other people know....l8r

[Beretta]

Urm.. Burners don't make a groove. They simply change the color of the dye.

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[Nerk01]

that is not true. burners changes the reflectance so when i normal drive reads it the drive thinks its seeing grooves. its seems to me that RW is as finicky as a cat, different manufactuers use different lasers which vary the amount of change in reflectance they do to the disc. i would assume the better the quality DVD player the more wide variety of RW discs from different burners it would be capable of playing. of course the manufactuers dont consider this at all they just look at that "profit" margin to decide how deceint a drive they put into their product

[vitualis]

I think the point that Beretta was getting across is that "burning" on CD-RW is not creating grooves -- you simply are changing the organic dye layer between a crystalline and amorphous state. Thus the idea of some burners making "deeper grooves" is not an appropriate concept.

Regards.

[mikewg]

I think you guys missed the point of the post. He's saying that CD-RWs that wouldn't burn on his APEX before are now playing on the same DVD player, not a different one. He's saying that giving a better quality burn to a CDRW will allow a player to read the disc better, with everything being the same except the burner itself.

[Im[CuRsED]]

No S*#% mike....We all know what he said we can read...We know he has an apex dvd player and it hasnt changed...What we were sayin is the Blocky Vcds he made will also play diffrently or better on a diffrent dvd player...I dont think Apex dvd players are the best in the world...I see most people takin them back to bestbuy cuz they F8%# Up Frequently...I know that cd writers make a diffrence but it can also be said that dvd players make as big as a diffrence also...