One Click CCE Backup Tool Released

[KungFuCow]

JDobbs has released a 1 click backup tool that uses CCE or the Rejig transcoder engine. For anyone interested, here is a link to the post on Doom9.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72691

This could be the "Holy Grail" of backup utilities a lot of us have been waiting for.

[KungFuCow]

I cant believe no one is discussing this. Its tailor made for CCE Basic, which is a paltry $57.00 and doesnt even need an authoring program. This is going to be about as good as it gets I think once the program matures a little.

[weaselguy]

this is awesome news. im am going to dl that program now. one quick question, is this movie only or is it full disk backup? cause if its movie only, the mrbass guide is easy enough. i just dont have the patience to do the Big 3 for a full backup. but either way its a step in the right direction.

[KungFuCow]

Full disk backup

This is about as easy as it gets. There are some movies it wont do yet (Seamless branching, multi angle) but the key word is YET. JDobbs has stated that the code foundation was specifically designed to accomodate all types of DVD structures but he disabled those while he was working the kinks out.

I did Lost In Translation earlier and it came out great. For a $10.00 donation and a $57.00 CCE Basic purchase, this is a bargain and works incredible for a first release.

[Baldrick]

Finally!...I hate the Big 3... Added DVD Rebuilder to the tooools list.

[CanadianZ]

What exactly does this do?? I have been using Decrypter for ripping and CloneDVD for re-encoding with menu's.

Will this keep menu's??

What is CCE??

Is this going to be better quality video than CloneDVD or Shrink an why??

Thanks, I am just trying to learn as much as I can.

CanadianZ

[tompika]

Is this going to be better quality video than CloneDVD or Shrink an why??

Yes because Cinema Craft Encoder is a reencoder while those ones are just transcoders

Finally!...I hate the Big 3...

I don't think anyone likes messing with the Big3

[Vejita-sama]

I actually like the Big3, I mean this is a hobby and I learned so much about DVD file structure, authoring, and how subtitles work from playing around with them. But a one click would be nice so I'll check out this program tonight. If I can set the desired bitrate for each VTS, the number of passes for each VTS and it's a full backup with functional menus then I'm set.

I use DVD Shrink for most backups, the Big3 for fun

[KungFuCow]

You cant set compression nor can you set the number of passes for each titleset. You can however set the number of passes for the whole project using CCE-SP. Im using CCE Basic and it just does 2 pass VBR. Still, though, it looks great.

Ive used The Big 3 quite a bit but this program is so much easier to use and seems to work on almost all DVDs that dont have any sort of funky structure.

[Faustus]

I've not had a chance to use it yet, but this is EXACLY what I've been wanting for a long time. Can't wait to see how the development process goes.

[trolltuning]

[quote]Yes because Cinema Craft Encoder is a reencoder while those ones are just transcoders

The material I've backed up with the Intervideo program always looks better than the material I've produced with CCE basic. Shouldn't a transcoding of a professionally encoded disk look better than a reencoding done with a home computer and hobby level programs?

[trolltuning]

Oops I should have previewed- last post should read:

Yes because Cinema Craft Encoder is a reencoder while those ones are just transcoders

The material I've backed up with the Intervideo program always looks better than the material I've produced with CCE basic. Shouldn't a transcoding of a professionally encoded disk look better than a reencoding done with a home computer and hobby level programs?

[Satanico Pandemonium]

Then you must have done something wrong if your your CCE Reencode looks worse than crapy Intervideo transcode.

[CanadianZ]

Does this new program keep menus??

What about taking out subtitles, extra languages, special features (deleted scenes, etc.) to make the video smaller??

Also, is there some sort of compression ratio display to show you how much you are compressing the video??

Thanks for the help,

CanadianZ

[matthewmalay]

Yes it keeps menus.
The program can remove audio tracks but not subtitles.

If you want to change the compression of each titleset you will have to open the ecl file in CCE and change the bitrate accordingly.

I tried out the program but it didnt work for me, all my files were too small and the video was nothing but black with orange/red inteference on the bottom. I'll see if I can fix this on my next project.

[terminator911]

I personally use DVD2DVD-R which also uses CCE and it also has its own built-in transcoder if CCE is not available for you.
www.mrbass.org/dvd2dvdr

I like it because it is a one-click solution to CCE and even does the reauthoring for you, lets you save some space if you want to add extra stuff or the original menu. Once done all you really have to do is burn.

This new tool has to be way better than DVD2DVD-R for me to give it a try.. so far, I don't like the idea of not being able to choose which subtitles to keep/get rid of.

We'll see what comes out of it, in the mean time I'd suggest you guys try DVD2DVD-R, it is very easy to use and gives the desired result.

Terminator

[Timoleon]

DVD2DVDR is a great program, but JDobbs is doing an excellent job with this new software The ten pages of discussions over in Doom9 about this is a prime example of very bright people brainstorming and successfully producing something new!

I'm sure I'll continue to use DVD2DVDR as I play with the new software --- you can't have enough good software to play with!

[BSR]

Subtitle issue,
Couldn't you copy your DVD to the HD with Shrink and remove the audio and subtitles you do not want using no compression.
Then use this software to compress it with CCE.

Can even use DVD stripper before using this new software to remove previews and unwanted materials, (if it doesn't allow you to do it.)

[soundforbjt]

Subtitle issue,
Couldn't you copy your DVD to the HD with Shrink and remove the audio and subtitles you do not want using no compression.
Then use this software to compress it with CCE.

Can even use DVD stripper before using this new software to remove previews and unwanted materials, (if it doesn't allow you to do it.)

You can only remove audio titles with this app, the author felt subs take so little room that it would have little effect on final results. Like the idea of using DVDShrink to remove them first as an option. DVDStripper + MenuEdit & this app sounds like a marriage made in Heaven.

[Vanderlow]

He says not to rip the movie only, but the whole disk. Does it mean it doesn't work that way?

[tsantsa]

I can't wait to try this out!

I have cce 2.5, did someone metion that you can change how many passes with any cce other than basic?

I think my first project will be any one of the Sopranos discs...they're ALL packed full!

[soundforbjt]

I can't wait to try this out!

I have cce 2.5, did someone metion that you can change how many passes with any cce other than basic?

I think my first project will be any one of the Sopranos discs...they're ALL packed full!

With non-CCE basic you can select 2, 3, or 4 pass as a max.

Here's the install process for CCE 2.5;

Here is the instalation process posted by a member @doom9:

1- install Avisynth 2.54

2- extract all the contents of DVD2AVI dg (decodefix100.zip) directly into the Avisynth 2.54 "plugins" folder
ie: C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins

3- install the version of CCE you want to work with. If you installed CCE SP 2.50 go to step 4, if not, go directly to step 5.

4- extract "eclcce.zip", run it and point it to your CCE SP 2.50 executable
ie: C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder SP\cctsp.exe

5- extract DVD Rebuilder 0.16 (dvd-rbv016.zip) or later
- run it
- click on "options" menu then "setup"
- here you have to point the APROPRIATE box to your EclCCE.exe or cctsp.exe depending on the version of CCE used
ie: If using CCE SP 2.50: C:\Program Files\eclcce\EclCCE.exe (in the "Path to CCE Pro 2.50" box)
ie: If using CCE SP 2.6x and above C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\cctsp.exe (in the "Path to CCE Pro (New))

6- make sure you also go to the "Options" menu, "CCE Options" and check the correct version of CCE you are using

7- if any of your source video is interlaced, make sure to go to "Options", "AVS Options" and check "ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)".

This will solve alot of first time issues.

[tsantsa]

Good tips thanx.

[Kingnog]

Then you must have done something wrong if your your CCE Reencode looks worse than crapy Intervideo transcode.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are you talking about, crappy Intervideo transcode? Have you even TRIED the intervideo software? It's awesome! Best transcoder I've ever seen...in about one hour (or less), you get a final product that looks EXACTLY like the original...I mean, people praise Shrink and Recode and dvd2one...but those take much longer (at least twice as long) and definitely dont look as good.
I dont understand how CCE can be so much better than almost-like-original quality from Intervideo.

[Faustus]

Then you must have done something wrong if your your CCE Reencode looks worse than crapy Intervideo transcode.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are you talking about, crappy Intervideo transcode? Have you even TRIED the intervideo software? It's awesome! Best transcoder I've ever seen...in about one hour (or less), you get a final product that looks EXACTLY like the original...I mean, people praise Shrink and Recode and dvd2one...but those take much longer (at least twice as long) and definitely dont look as good.
I dont understand how CCE can be so much better than almost-like-original quality from Intervideo.

Because instead of just stripping stuff out it loads each frame into an actual highend mpeg ENCODER, then based on the new bitrate reencodes it. Should be better then ANY transcoder reguardless of how good the transcoder is.

[jarvis1781]

For the first time in my life I actually believe someone about transcoding being TOP NOTCH.

I just downloaded the demo of InterVideo DVDCopy 2 and did a FULL DISC backup of The Hulk. The quality was just as good as if I did a CCE 5 pass on extras and 3 pass on main movie using the Big3 method. I am going to buy the full program and this will now be my program of choice for full backups. It took MUCH less time than CCE and the results were identical. I could not tell the difference between either copy on my 40" plasma TV. so obviously this program does its job.

If you don't believe me download the trial for yourselves and give it a go. compare it to a FULL backup using CCE and you will see the results are the same with much less time.

[MrShavez]

Has the quality of Inter Video DVD Copy gone up since v.1.2? I own the 1.2 version and have been quite unsatisfied with the results. Did a transcode of Traffic (PAL) 7.53GB with Intervideo, and it looked awful. Macroblocks and vertical lines to the max. Then Re-encoded with CCE; could not tell the difference between the original and the re-encode.

So, is an upgrade going to solve this, anyone?

BTW, any FINNISH ppl on this Forum? Tere vaan kaikille

[jchristl]

What exactly is the "Big3"?

[MrShavez]

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/doitfast-guide.htm

The big 3 if you please...

[Kingnog]

Has the quality of Inter Video DVD Copy gone up since v.1.2?

On their website they say a 25% speed increase and improved quality. So..yes

One problem with the intervideo software is the fact that you dont have too many choices with the audio. You can always run it through DVDSHRINK with no compression and take out what you dont want, and then do a 'full disk' backup with intervideo. It's still quicker than CCE