recommend good audio recorder for recording loud concert!

[rsuave5]

i wanna record a show (with local bands permission) using a mobile audio recorder.

no i cant access the board

i want preferably stereo and something that would not distort with loud noise digital or analog

a good one!

[Kingnog]

Um...you do realize that this website is called "dvdrhelp.com", right? Not "audiorecorderhelp.com"?

lol, just kidding. But what kind of random question is this? If you're recording from a handheld (im assuming) device, the quality's really not going to be good...and you're not gonna get stereo unless you hook it up directly to the sound board or speakers.

[rsuave5]

please try to keep it to intelligent responses only fellas.

yes this is dvdrhelp. i plan to put the audio to dvd does that now qualify me? (im in the audio section)

audio recorders can record in stereo where have you been.

if you dont know dont answer google search for a life

[LeoNapier]

Ok then!

Intelligent audio answer coming up!!

No access to the board=NO DVD QUALITY SOUND RECORDING!!

Maybe ya will get stereo from a handheld recorder, but sound levels will be messy, ya'll get loads of background noise and echoing. The final DVD project will sound like a crappy bootleg!!

Got band's permission? Get access to the board!!

Hope that was intelligent enough 4 ya!

LeoNapier

[rsuave5]

well im not putting it to dvd that was sarcasm im looking for a good handheld recorder so i can record a loud concert.

im just hoping to be pointed in the right direction.

dont need any cant do this or that

if you know of one please point me that way thanx

[Suntan]

I would try a minidisc player/recorder. For about a $100 or $150 you can get a little MD player/recorder that will give suprisingly good results. We use them at work when we need to take sound recordings of units for annalysis. After that the most important thing is the quality of the microphone you use.

[bokkasrealm]

Put most of your budget into a microphone. Most likely a mic that will record a cardioid polar pattern. Most likely a nice stereo setup. Then you should focus on your recorder. Minidisc is a great way to go, just make sure you get an older model that will allow for mic recording.

[hech54]

There is also a Sony stereo mic made for analog recording into a suitable MD Recorder....but that little bugger is almost as expensive as the MD Recorder itself.
Also look into renting a portable DAT recorder from a local music store that rents P.A. Equipment. I rented a DAT Recorder/Player once for ONE DAT tape I received....sure beats buying one. Those little buggers are expensive too.

[cirving]

ECM-MC908C is the microphone I use that plugs right into my Sony TRV-27 MiniDV camcorder. I brought it on a tour with me and I got great quality audio. My only advice is to make sure you place your microphone in the best spot possible to (it's usually common sense where that'd be (depends on the layout of the club), but people ignore this a lot).

That said, it does mount right on top of the shoe of my Camcorder,
and it records straight to the DV Cassette. My only question to others is, is the quality much better if I were to buy a MiniDisc recorder or even a DAT? My camcorder is set to 16bit audio and 48,000khz. Isn't that the best you can do for DVD standard anyway? What will a DAT do if you're using the same microphone for it?

[rsuave5]

cool thanx ill look into those

[flaninacupboard]

a DAT tape would be 16bit at 48Khz

[hech54]

What will a DAT do if you're using the same microphone for it?

The DAT suggestion was for the original poster. DAT vs. Minidisc's compression....DAT wins hands down.

[energy80s]

a DAT tape would be 16bit at 48Khz

... or at 32kHz or at 44.1kHz or at 96kHz

[rich_jtg]

Every time we've recorded our band live we have found that to get a decent reording of the music you have to get an output from the mixing desk.

Obviously, alot of bands don't have everything going through the desk, depending on the quality/size of the PA and size of the venue. Most leave the drums and guitars to play out from source.

We always found that recording externally to be not as clear, even when using very expensive digital equipment, and to get any sort of stereo effect we had to use at least a couple of mics into a digital multi-track recorder.

But you also have to bear in mind alot of PAs used by live bands (even large PAs) aren't stereo and you will have noticed in smaller venues that you don't get much of a stereo field anyway, even when bouncing the sound off walls.

[energy80s]

The way this is done in the BBC is through a "PA Split" where you will split the feed from every artists mic and all instruments before it hits the PA desk. This allows you to do your own mix and even multitrack for future projects. A lot of the forthcoming Music Live shows (BBC April / May) will be done this way.

[flaninacupboard]

Ah, so that explains how bands can do those (frankly rubbish) 5.1 mixes from live recordings. i'd always wondered how they did it just from the desk output.