DVD video files will not copy from explorer, but plays fine?

[Jacob Grenoble]

I am trying to backup my Stoned Age dvd. I first used DVD decryptor and it said it completed the process fine but when I put it into the DVD player I could hear audio for a while but it just wouldn't load to the menu.

I searched the forum for possible issues with this DVD title and found that other people had trouble backing this title up. One person said the problem was the DVD wasn't actually encrypted and by running it thru decryptor you are actually encrypting it. He suggested copying files directly from the disc in explorer, but I get an error "cannot create or replace vts_01_04 system error -2147351799" I tried creating an image in nero and it says failed to cache files etc. I am fresh out of ideas.

1. Just to recap used DVD decryptor to make backup, said it worked but failed to load to menu.

2. Tried to take files from dvd thru windows explorer and tried to create image with nero neither worked.

3. Original has scratches but plays fine in my ps2 and my dvd player.

[SLK001]

A player will play through scratches will usually no noticeable change in the display. A computer HAS to be able to check and verify the ECC during a copy. If an ECC isn't correct, you will not be able to continue.

And ripping a non-encrypted DVD will NOT encrypt it (one of the silliest things I have heard).

Clean the disc as best as possible, then rip using your ripper with "Skip all errors" selected.

It's possible that you have major errors in your .IFO files. If you think that this is possible, then DELETE them all, then copy the .BUP files to the .IFO files (while still retaining the .BUF files).

[solarfox]

ne person said the problem was the DVD wasn't actually encrypted and by running it thru decryptor you are actually encrypting it.

Whoever said this has no clue how DVDDecrypter works. Ignore him.

Try ripping the DVD in File mode. Select all the files on the DVD, and let DVDDecrypter rip and save everything to a directory on your hard drive. Then, close DVDDecrypter, and open up your DVD playback program (PowerDVD, or whatever). Your DVD playback program should have an option to try to play the files you just ripped ("Play Content from HD", "Mount HD image", or something along those lines) -- try that, and see if your freshly-ripped set of IFO/BUP/VOB files will play correctly.

If it plays, then you know DVDDecrypter ripped it correctly, so your problem is going to be somewhere in the way you're reencoding and burning to DVD-R. If it won't play from the ripped files, then something went wrong in the rip process -- in which case, you might want to see if your PC can play the disc at all. It's always possible that your DVD-ROM drive is more sensitive to scratched discs than your PS/2 or standalone DVD player is.

[Jacob Grenoble]

First of all thank you guys for all the help you have given me, without it I would have no clue.

I used file mode in dvd decryptor and sure enough the files wouldn't play on my computer . I tried playing the disc on my computer and that wouldn't work either. I am still boggled how this dvd can play on my ps2 in its entirety without a skip and at least load on my stand-alone(didn't watch it in its entirety), but won't even play on my computer. If anybody else has any suggestions I would appreciate it.

P.S. SLK001
I don't really understand your second suggestion about deleting .ifo files and keeping .bup files etc. If you could further explain this or give me a link to a post or guide I will try it.

[solarfox]

What SLK is suggesting is that after you've ripped the disc in File mode, go into the VIDEO_TS directory those files were saved onto your hard drive in and delete all of the files with an IFO extension. Then, make copies of the files with a BUP extension, and rename these copies to have an IFO extension instead. (Basically, each BUP file is a BackUP of the IFO file with the same name.)

I suspect that if your PC can't even play the disc directly from the DVD-ROM drive (via PowerDVD, WinDVD, or whatever it is you have), then playing games with the IFO/BUP files probably isn't going to help... The problem is in your DVD-ROM drive; it apparently does not like something about the disc, and can't read the data from it.

The only thing I can suggest is try using a different drive. Either rip it in your DVD-RW drive, if you have a separate burner and playback-only drive, or see if you can borrow a different brand of DVD-ROM drive from a friend's machine.

[BobK]

> One person said the problem was the DVD wasn't actually encrypted and by running it thru decryptor you are actually encrypting it

And if you put toast into a toaster it'll change back to untoasted bread.

[LanceSteel]

Actually, I'm the one who had the problem trying to back-up this movie using dvd decryptor and I take much offense to people saying I don't have a clue as to what is going on. Ripping the movie via dvd decryptor yielded an unplayable, worthless rip. Even though dvd decryptor says that this movie is encrypted, it was not. After opening the disk within explorer, copying the files to the HD and opening the VIDEO_TS.IFO via a software player the entire disk, movie and all, played fine. Copying directly to a dvd, as it was single layer, without any decryption yielded a perfectly working backup.

What is encryption? Its the scrambling of files so that others cannot read them. Dvd Decryptor is sure as hell scrambling the files as its ripping them. If not then why in the newest version did they add this option: "Added: Dialog box with 'Yes to all' and 'No to all' when decryption is detected in a file on a supposedly non protected disc".

With all your logic applying a decryption algorithm to an unencrypted file would yield a perfectly working file. If dvddecryptor believed a file to be encrypted and applied the decryption key that unencrypted file, that file would become scrambled. In other words, descrambling an unscrambled file yields a scrambled, thus encrypted, file.

So instead of making snide remarks, maybe you guys should think for a second before you trash something that you've never experienced (or even took the time to think about in the first place).

Now back to the initial question...
Its surprising that Jacob Grenoble was able to read the disk initially without getting any read errors in dvd decryptor. If the drive read it once it should be able to read the disk again. Try a different drive as what solarfox said. If that doesn't work wash the surface of the disk with mild detergent, rinse and wipe with a soft cotton towel. Sometimes finger prints and crud can have an affect on whether a drive can read a disk or not.

[lumis]

i just got this movie.. and after having a little bit of fun with dvd decrypter, i figured out that it wasnt going to work.. but i did figure out what would work.. ultraiso (i used v6.1).. click TOOLS and then click MAKE CD IMAGE, select the dvd-rom drive, ignore read errors, & select where you want the iso to be saved, and start..

i was able to mount the iso with daemon tools and play it through powerdvd.. dvd decrypter reads the mounted drive as having no protections, unlike the dvd itself..

i'm going to try and burn the iso now and see how that works.. but getting it working on the PC is a good first step.

i tried dvd decrypter to hell & a i tried just a straight explorer copy, both failed.

[lumis]

they definetly did something weird here.

i burned the iso i created with ultraiso to a dvd-rw, it played back in my dvd player just fine, and its plays on the computer just fine.. but dvd decrypter, clonedvd & dvd2one still detect it as having copy protection.. even from the dvd-rw.

from what i understand its supposed to be impossible to burn CSS protection on to a recordable disc, macrovision maybe, but not CSS.. here is a sreen cap.

[lumis]

here is a screen cap of what dvd decrypter says about the iso that i created with ultaiso and mounted with daemon tools..

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[guns1inger]

http://www.disctronics.co.uk/technology/dvdrecord/dvdrec_copyprot.htm