DVD To Pocket PC: taboo or fair use?

[tgpo]

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3423_7-5124876-1.html


Cool read

[Gazorgan]

A total Video virgin for an author. Someone send him the Hasbro thread :P

[tgpo]

I love the top image:



What a cool guy

[igalan]

It's fairly easy for someone used to deal with video files and formats to convert a DVD to a AVI with DivX and MP3 that is below 128 MB and can be played in your PocketPC with PocketMVP . Smartripper and VirtualDub Mpeg2/AC3 Mod is all you need . It's nice to be able to watch a movie in your PPC while you travel; the problem is that playing a movie in your PPC severely drains the batteries.

[bugster]

In the new DVD To Pocket PC, Verweij said, it's Windows Media Player that finds and unlocks a disc's encryption

WMP does not even include an mpeg-2 codec, so what crap is he feeding everybody here!

[BJ_M]

just because he owns the company doesn't me he has a clue what he is selling ....



if made no sense to me either ..


but i bet CNET ran this through thier lawers first ....

[indolikaa]

but i bet CNET ran this through thier lawers first ....

Maybe they should have run it through their IT department first.

[dcsos]

I do this all the time..To stimulate my friends enjoyment of a DVD I've bought, I will make a WMV clip of the "good scene" and send it over the internet..Then they watch and buy their own copy (or beg me to borrow mine!)..It takes a few minutes on a p4 at 2.0 gig for VEGAS VIDEO 4.0 to do the WMV file ...JUST take an MPG file created by MPEGVCR from the UNENCRYPTED VOB (womble editor..just open file and re-save the VOB as an MPG)..
Then swing this MPEG-2 element onto the VEGAS timeline..export as Windows Media Video file and instantly! a 5 or ten megabyte exercpt..
Why you would wanna play this little file on a PDA is beyond me...
I just don't like dumbed down device that can't run windows (or linux or any full..os )

[energy80s]

Why you would wanna play this little file on a PDA is beyond me...
I just don't like dumbed down device that can't run windows (or linux or any full..os )

I think you'll find that most PDA's do run Windows ... the current incarnation being Windows Mobile 2003.

[dcsos]

What about a full OS didn't you understand?

Windows MOBILE is about one tenth of an OS sorry.....

[igalan]

I can use my PocketPC to write documents with TextMaker (with almost the same features as MS Word). I can also use Excel in the same way as I do on the desktop and with the same files. I have Internet Explorer, PocketStars (an excellent astronomy program). Not to mention te ability to watch DivX movies... Currently you can do a lot of things with a PocketPC very efficiently, and some even more efficiently than on a laptop or desktop (like GPS navigation). Before, I needed to carry around a laptop, now I can bring my PPC on my pocket. Big difference.

[dcsos]

I use a sub laptop called the LIBRETTO..runs windows
http://dynabook.com/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/index_j.htm

[BJ_M]

i use a LIBRETTO also -- they are great .. i got a older one with a p3 in it thats just perfect for many things and easy to carry on the road ...

[igalan]

Yeah, at work we had one of those. It was a nice little computer , unfortunately it's broken (falled to the floor, it's too light).

[Hardcoreruss]

I've been doing for about a year and a half.

What pisses me of is there is another similar product in the UK by a company called Kane (think the product is called Kane Gear). Which allows you to record tv on your pcc "Wooohooooo" you need a bit of software to do that, it then converts it into some piss poor quality mpeg which is about 11 frames per second and then it takes about an hour and a half to copy all the data via usb 1.1 to your ppc and they charge you £200 ******* quid for the privilidge.

What annoys me even more is Magazines such as Stuff (which suck Kane's **** left right and centre) reckon it is the best thing going and recommend it. When all people need are a few bits of freeware and a usb 2.0 card writer to get a film 100 times better and 10 times quicker.

As you can tell this is something that has been pissing me of for ages. I send similar styled rants to the Stuff readers pages but am not suprised they are not printed as they undoubtedly whore themselves to Kane.

WANKERS !!!!!

[Hardcoreruss]

I've been doing for about a year and a half.

What pisses me of is there is another similar product in the UK by a company called Kane (think the product is called Kane Gear). Which allows you to record tv on your pcc "Wooohooooo" you need their lame bit of software to do that do you ?, it then converts it into some piss poor quality mpeg which is about 11 frames per second and then it takes about an hour and a half to copy all the data via usb 1.1 to your ppc and they charge you £200 ******* quid for the privilidge.

What annoys me even more is Magazines such as Stuff (which suck Kane's **** left right and centre) reckon it is the best thing going and recommend it. When all people need are a few bits of freeware and a usb 2.0 card writer to get a film 100 times better and 10 times quicker.

As you can tell this is something that has been pissing me of for ages. I send similar styled rants to the Stuff readers pages but am not suprised they are not printed as they undoubtedly whore themselves to Kane.

WANKERS !!!!!

In addition to this I went to Stuff Live at Olympia last year, took my pocket pc along and went straight to their stand. Started asking them questions about bitrates and all that and they did not understand what on earth I was talking about. All the rep said was "but our software comes with a free 128mb card", whoopy doo I can't really get them on ebay for about a score. I then showed them what I had done, and their response was "but ours is progressive", so i said I thought you said it was only 11 frames per second and they said really forcefully "It is", I reply so hows it progressive then ?. They look blankly and call their boss who is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. I then stood just outside their stand mouthing abuse and telling people how they could do it much better for free. The whole time my missus has her head bowed pretending she is not with me (after I persuaded her to come by buying her a 40gb ipod). This ensued for about twenty minutes when I was told that I had to leave the stand or I would be "ejected".

Loads of fun.

[RabidDog]

Do you have a link to that website?? It sounds like exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for..

[Hardcoreruss]

Do you have a link to that website?? It sounds like exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for..

Hilarious

[vitualis]

As per the subject heading:
DVD to PPC -- in principle, this is "fair use"... just like converting a DVD to VCD. However, since you actually have to break CSS for this to work, the practice is in a grey area. I've always taken the position that this is "okay" for personal use. For a company that sells the software though (i.e., they aren't doing it for personal use, rather for commercial gain), I think they will be in trouble if they don't remove the deCSS routines.

As for:

Why you would wanna play this little file on a PDA is beyond me...
I just don't like dumbed down device that can't run windows (or linux or any full..os )

... no one is asking YOU to do it. However, I can say that the first time a creating a DivX clip and played it on my iPAQ I got a shiver of delight the same as when I made my first VCD.

Pocket PCs aren't meant to run full desktop OS and they don't need to. In fact, it would be extremely inefficient for them to do so. The trade off is that you get a very small, light weight and portable device that you can keep on you all the time but can still do most things you require of it to do.

BTW, if you really wanted to, you can install a version of Linux on iPAQ that will run just about everything... slowly of course and on a tiny screen.

Best regards.