I have a Cunning plan!!

[lostbee]

Ok heres that plan im looking for some helpfull ideas

i have lord of the rings 1 and 2 and this is what i want to do when the 3rd one is out to buy, i want ot try to combine all 3 into one mad 9 hour movie with no gaps to go on 1 dvd-r with as little quality loss as possible.

would it be best to rip the 3 dvds and put them together in tmpgenc author?? or convert all 3 to a divx avi join them then convert them back?? any ideas???? or is this ideas just not possible???

[teegee420]

I think you should wait until dual-layer burning is possible. Especially if you are expecting anything better than VCD quality. That's my two cents.

[snafu099]

prototype blueray burner? would not even have to compress

[mob]

first, you will suffer alot of quality loss.

second, its better to convert once than to convert twice.

third, if i was you i would wait until dual layer dvd-r's are out and then you can at least have better quality.

[rkr1958]

First of all ... the quality will likely be terrible; but anyway, this is how I would do it (not meaning that's its the best or most efficient way). I'd rip all three DVDs to my harddrive. Then I'd use TMPGEnc DVD Author and pull in the main movie from each of the three keeping chapter points. I'd make sure that I have the movies in the correct order and author a menu keeping the each of the movies chapter points. I'd then write out my DVD (VIDEO_TS & AUDIO_TS) to my harddrive. Of course you'll have to overrided the warning stating that the DVD you're making is not compliant (i.e., too larger). Once authored I would then use something like Pinnacle Instant Copy or DVD Shrink to compress the resultant (and very large) DVD so that it would fit on a single DVD-R. Then burn and enjoy if the quality isn't too bad. Good luck and keep us posted on how everything turns out.

[lostbee]

cool so whats this dual layer all about then?? when is it out? can my pioneer 106 burn with it?? and can they play in standalone players?

[rcb]

see this thread for more info:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=207952

[jaxxboss]

Thats not a cunning plan, thats a dream. You can always do some heavy editing and cut out some lame scenes. In all 3 movies im sure I can find an hours worth to cut and wouldnt have any affect on the movies. That would leave ya with only 8 hours or so to mess with. Heck, id start with cutting every scene with Frodo in it, especially the ones where he frign cries like a baby. The first one where the fellowship sets off, that can be cut all the way to where they enter the mines of Moria. You can find plenty to chop out and nobody would notice except for the strongest of geeks.

[jimmalenko]

I have developed a GUI for ripping/re-encoding to 352x288 at any bitrate you require with MP2 audio at any bitrate you require. All I do is select the titleset, specify the bitrates and wake up with a .M2V file and a MP2 file ready for TMPGEnc DVD Author to mux and author. It also creates a text file with the chapter points so I can "re-install" them later.

I have found that 352x288 results in better quality when viewed on a tv - pretty simple really because 1000kbps would be better utilised over 352x288 than 720x576.

Using a bitrate calculator to find out what bitrates you would need would be advisable but I would think it would look pretty crappy. VCD is 1150kbps and I worked out that for 10 hours on a dvd you would need 820 video and 192 audio. Gonna look pretty ordinary I think.

Probably not possible until dual layers come out.

[troyvcd1]

yes I think this could work ok (just my opinion) but you need to resize to half d1 352x480 and use a good encoder like tmpgenc or mainconcept or best CCE. I know just for one of the 3 hour movies I get bitrates of about 2900 so your bitrate would probably be about 1000 but you could do mulitpass with CCE at half d1 and I think this may look acceptable. Very interesting thought I may have to give this a try on the first two movies.

[freestyler]

You and the "3 godfather's on one disc" guy should hook up

[lordsmurf]

I know how to put at least 4000 minutes onto a DVD, and have it play on at least one DVD player that only costs $40, with almost no macroblock issues ... but I wouldn't.

Yeah, I said four-thousand.

[eas]

So I don't really understand the dream, but what if you just build yourself a nice little home theater PC, rip all this stuff to the hard disk, combine into a single MPEG2 without reencoding and play it off there?

Or maybe the point isn't merely to sit in one spot for ~10 hours without blinking or moving?

[freestyler]

I haven't seen a program that will allow you to build a dvd with that many minutes LordSmurf. What encode settings are you using?

[zilog_jones]

If you do get this plan to actually work, you know you're gonna have to try it with all the special edition versions when dual-layer recorders come out - that'll be about at least 12 hours of film (felt like about 5 times as long watching the things though...)!