Help! Sopranos season 2 vertical hold problem!

[Intuit]

Hello all! Great info from everyone on here and some great questions. I'm a newbie here and have had some success at backing up dvd movies and episodes. However, I have recently run into a problem I can't fix. My brother in law received the Sopranos season 2 and 3 for xmas and we found out it was region 6. I was able to take care of hte problem with season 3, but season 2 is giving me problems. First a quick thing about season 3, I think someone sold my stepmother (the xmas present provider) a copied season 3 on ebay. The title and menu screens on two of the disks were the same even though they contained different episodes! GRRR...someone phuked up!

Anyways, now for my real question. I have been using DVD Decryptor (lastest version), DVD2ONE, and COPY2DVD to make my backups. When I burn a copy of the first disk in season 2 using all 3 progs, and play it on my standalone, the vertical hold is messed up and the screen keeps jumping. This has not happened with any other dvd's nor does it happen on my cpu with the sopranos disk. Anyone know why this is happening and how to stop it from happening? Also, any know why the sopranos say they are only 1 layer but never burn correctly unless I use dvd2one first?

Okay, thats all. Sorry for the long post! Please help! Thanks!

[FulciLives]

... Also, any know why the sopranos say they are only 1 layer but never burn correctly unless I use dvd2one first?

I don't have these discs but if they are single layer ... have you tried an ISO rip followed by an ISO burn using DVD Decrypter?

It's the only programe you need for single layer DVD discs.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Intuit]

I will try that right now. I never have used ISO read or write before. Whats the difference between that and File ripping?

[FulciLives]

I will try that right now. I never have used ISO read or write before. Whats the difference between that and File ripping?

It is the best way of making a perfect bit-for-bit back-up when you have a single layer DVD disc.

Of course it isn't 100% bit perfect ... the copy will be region free and free of any copy protection

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Intuit]

Great! Thank you! I have two files though...do an MDS file and the large file both need to be on the disk?

[Intuit]

Also, I just got done burning the big ISO file that was created not the MDS file and tried playing it in my DVD player and got a message that said "NOPlay" "this kind of disc cannot be played on this player" or something like that. Is this because I didn't include the MDS file? If so, how do I include it? Thanks for your help and anyone else who has some answers for me.

[FulciLives]

What region was the original DVD and what region is your stand alone DVD player?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Intuit]

The DVD is region 6, and I have a region 1 player I believe. DVD looks to be playing, its just the screen keeps skipping/jumping....

[FulciLives]

The DVD is region 6, and I have a region 1 player I believe. DVD looks to be playing, its just the screen keeps skipping/jumping....

Then clearly your DVD player does not handle the type of black DVD media you are using ... double check to make sure your DVD player supports either DVD-R or DVD+R and if it does (look at the section on this website called DVD Players) then try different media.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Intuit]

I have used this same media to burn other sopranos episodes and movies fine...no problems. But for some reason, this particular season is giving me trouble. What do you mean by black media? My DVD player supports both as well as DVD+RW, VCD, all that stuff...

[sublime053]

I think he meant "blank" media, not "black".

[jbenj01]

If the DVD was 'originally' Region 6, which is China, wouldn't the source video material be in PAL format? Maybe that's why it's skipping/jumping.. Or maybe you know this and already have a mulit-standard DVD player to do the conversion from PAL to NTSC..

Open the IFO files in IFOedit and see what the flags are, i.e., PAL or NTSC.

[Intuit]

i'm not really sure how to use IFOedit...

I don't even know the difference between IFO, ISO, FILE, VOB etc....I'm a newbie who has been teased by being able to burn a few DVD's....lol.

Do I need to rip it with DVD Decryptor first and then examine with IFOedit? Also, my other sopranos episodes were ripped with DVD Decryptor, than I used DVD2one on them (even though they were only one layer, this was the only way I could get them to work) and then I burned with copytodvd. Did DVD decryptor convert them automatically from PAL to NTSC for me and thats why they worked? I would like to be able to just try reading an ISO and writing an ISO with DVD Decryptor the "right" way but have been unable to burn anything successfully using that method as well...

[Intuit]

okay, I just ripped the DVD again and view the IFO files with IFOedit and I am seeing PAL all throughout...so what does that mean I need to do...or better yet, how do I do it???? LOL!

Thanks for putting up with the noob....

[Intuit]

ANyone else having a problem with ISO Read/ISO write using DVD Decryptor or using IFO files?

[FulciLives]

ANyone else having a problem with ISO Read/ISO write using DVD Decryptor or using IFO files?

I think the problem is that you are trying to play a PAL DVD on a NTSC only DVD player and/or TV

Does the original play A-OK on your standalone/TV setup?

Do you know if your equipment is PAL only or NTSC only etc.?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[jbenj01]

My guess is that you live in the U.S. (NTSC region) and are trying to play PAL material on NTSC equipment. That's not going to happen unless you buy a set top DVD player that is multi-system/standard, i.e., capable of playing both PAL and NTSC.

You can can convert the movie-only from PAL to NTSC with some work (there are some guides here), but forget about the full disc w/menus, extras, etc.. (unless you buy a multi-system DVD player).

As to ripping in ISO and burning image to DVD-R, that'll only happen if the DVD is a DVD-5, i.e., less than ~4.37G. Otherwise, you should rip in most cases rip in File mode, strip unwanted material, re-encode/transcode down to ~4.37G, then burn.. (see guides on here).

[Intuit]

The originals don't play on my standalone nor their owners (my brother in laws) , which is the reason I am trying to convert them, so he can watch his xmas presents...

He got several seasons, season 2 and 3 would not play on his standalone, nor mine. However, I was able to successfully play a backed up season 3 (region 6, NTSC, DVD-5(it said)..but wouldn't play unless I used DVD2one...so DVD-9?) after decrypting, shrinking, and burning. Season 2 it says is ALL regions, NTSC and a DVD-9. However, and this is A BIG however, I think the original seller of the DVD sold a copy instead of the original because there were different episodes on two different dvd's , but they had the same labels in the title menus. For example, the episodes name was the same as a previous DVD's containing two different episodes as was the scene selections names...even though the episodes and scene played as two different episodes. Seems as though someone phuked up while burning the title menu...which may also be a reason for why the season 2 DVD's said one layer but had to have DVD2ONe used on them to get them to play in my standalone...

So....I am at a loss for what to do. DVD Decryptor should did its job on season 3. Season 2's backup however had the screen jump I mentioned in the earlier posts.

I probably just confused the &%@# out of everyone

[FulciLives]

Where to start ...

Your understanding of DVD would not win you any awards my friend.

In the world of DVD you have more-or-less 2 major concerns:

1.) REGION CODE (usually either region free or locked to a single region)
2.) VIDEO FORMAT (which is either PAL or NTSC)

So let us take this one at a time.

REGION CODE
A DVD disc can be flagged as REGION 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 or ALL or 0

A DVD player is set to a single REGION. For instance the USA and Canada are REGION 1, the UK and Japan are REGION 2, Hong Kong is REGION 3, Austraila is REGION 4 etc.

So a DVD player set to REGION 1 will not play a DVD disc set to region 2 or 3 or whatever. It will play it if all regions or 0 region is on the disc.

When you rip a DVD with DVD Decrypter in either ISO MODE or FILE MODE you are stripping it of the region code and making it region free.

VIDEO FORMAT
A DVD disc can be PAL or NTSC format. NTSC is used in the USA and Canada and Japan and Hong Kong amoung others. But the rest of the world including just about all of Europe and Asutraila etc. use PAL

Most NTSC televisions can ONLY display a NTSC signal. In PAL countries it is more common to have multi-system televisions that can display both PAL and NTSC.

Some DVD players can only do NTSC even if it is a PAL REGION FREE or ALL REGION DVD disc. Even if the DVD player can handle PAL some will only output PAL as PAL so you must have a TV that can display PAL format.

Some DVD players can be made to handle a DVD of any region and any format. Some can even do conversion so you can output PAL as NTSC or NTSC as PAL

So in conclusion you made your REGION 6 DVD region free by doing the ISO back-up with DVD Decrypter but it is now REGION FREE PAL format.

Obviously your hardware does not support PAL

Options?

1.) Buy a region free DVD player that does PAL to NTSC conversions. Then you will be able to watch any DVD in the world on a standard NTSC television.

2.) You can convert a PAL DVD to NTSC DVD on your computer but it is usually very tricky and you really need to "know-what-you-are-doing" or at least willing to work at it BIG time. This is something that I have mastered and have tried to show other people how to do. Some just "don't get it" and give up. Results are excellent but it's not for everyone.

So I vote you go with #1

One of the better and yet inexpensive region free all code DVD players that does PAL to NTSC conversion is the Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 which can be ordered directly from the CYBERHOME WEBSITE for $79.95 US Dollars plus shipping.

You can find out more about the Cyberhome DVD player (and the very easy simple "hacks" to make it region free etc.) on the message forums on the NERD-OUT WEBSITE

Good Luck !!!

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
Your Sopranos DVD discs sound like "professionally" made Asian bootlegs.

[Intuit]

Where to start ...

Your understanding of DVD would not win you any awards my friend.

In the world of DVD you have more-or-less 2 major concerns:

1.) REGION CODE (usually either region free or locked to a single region)
2.) VIDEO FORMAT (which is either PAL or NTSC)

So let us take this one at a time.

REGION CODE
A DVD disc can be flagged as REGION 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 or ALL or 0

A DVD player is set to a single REGION. For instance the USA and Canada are REGION 1, the UK and Japan are REGION 2, Hong Kong is REGION 3, Austraila is REGION 4 etc.

So a DVD player set to REGION 1 will not play a DVD disc set to region 2 or 3 or whatever. It will play it if all regions or 0 region is on the disc.

When you rip a DVD with DVD Decrypter in either ISO MODE or FILE MODE you are stripping it of the region code and making it region free.

VIDEO FORMAT
A DVD disc can be PAL or NTSC format. NTSC is used in the USA and Canada and Japan and Hong Kong amoung others. But the rest of the world including just about all of Europe and Asutraila etc. use PAL

Most NTSC televisions can ONLY display a NTSC signal. In PAL countries it is more common to have multi-system televisions that can display both PAL and NTSC.

Some DVD players can only do NTSC even if it is a PAL REGION FREE or ALL REGION DVD disc. Even if the DVD player can handle PAL some will only output PAL as PAL so you must have a TV that can display PAL format.

Some DVD players can be made to handle a DVD of any region and any format. Some can even do conversion so you can output PAL as NTSC or NTSC as PAL

So in conclusion you made your REGION 6 DVD region free by doing the ISO back-up with DVD Decrypter but it is now REGION FREE PAL format.

Obviously your hardware does not support PAL

Options?

1.) Buy a region free DVD player that does PAL to NTSC conversions. Then you will be able to watch any DVD in the world on a standard NTSC television.

2.) You can convert a PAL DVD to NTSC DVD on your computer but it is usually very tricky and you really need to "know-what-you-are-doing" or at least willing to work at it BIG time. This is something that I have mastered and have tried to show other people how to do. Some just "don't get it" and give up. Results are excellent but it's not for everyone.

So I vote you go with #1

One of the better and yet inexpensive region free all code DVD players that does PAL to NTSC conversion is the Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 which can be ordered directly from the CYBERHOME WEBSITE for $79.95 US Dollars plus shipping.

You can find out more about the Cyberhome DVD player (and the very easy simple "hacks" to make it region free etc.) on the message forums on the NERD-OUT WEBSITE

Good Luck !!!

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
Your Sopranos DVD discs sound like "professionally" made Asian bootlegs.

Thanks for your help and the information. Most of which I knew already...despite your opinion on my little amount of knowledge. So are all region 6 DVD's usually also PAL format? If so, and this is my main question, why would one season play when I ripped, processed and burned and the other one not play???? They are both region 6...It doesn't really matter either way because the back of the DVD cases on both seasons say its NTSC...so they should both work in my DVD player right? Well, option one is not an option for me cuz I am trying to save for a house. Option 2 however maybe, but according to the back of my DVD cases, I don't need to convert to NTSC.

Anyone else have some ideas? Or FULCI, do you have any other ideas? BTW, my standalone is a Panasonic DVD-S35...

[Intuit]

Well, it turns out that season 2 was PAL and theres no way I am going to take the time to convert to NTSC. Thanks for everyone's help...

Sorry If I showed my true noob colors...