DVD Shrink is now Perfect

[Timoleon]

The latest beta version now has the ability to read and write .iso files! Who could ask for anything more?

[tDotinToronto]

If only it resolved my problems listed here:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=209017

[Capmaster]

I ripped about 5 over the weekend. This app is great. One thing - I've heard that it has a "deep analysis" option. I didn't try that, but rather went with the fast default one that takes a few minutes. I haven't seen anything I would want to improve on in the resulting full-DVD rips. The quality is superb.

[Ames315]

DVD Shrink is very good, and we're happy to have it, but obviously it's not perfect. Two examples:

- No error handling. A single CRC error anywhere on the disc will abort the DVD Shrink backup operation with no option to bypass or recover. (Work-around: rip with DVDDecrypter and then use DVD Shrink to make the new image)

- No easy way to copy or even set aside space for non-video content on the disc, such as associated PC programs. (Work-around: play with the manual compression percentage for all items until you can free up enough space to copy the non-video content separately)

[Magua]

Now that DVD shrink can write .ISO is there any difference between ripping DVD Decrypter then shrinking with DVD shrink then using Nero...compared to burning with DVD Decrypter (assuming you already have nero)?

Will both Nero and Decrypter take the same time and have the same quality?

[NYPlayer]

Magua

Burning does not equate to quality. Whether you burn with Nero or choose DVD Decrypter is more of a compatibility issue. I have always found for me creating an ISO and burning with DVD Decrypter gives me full compatibility on all my players.

[Magua]

Ok thats what I figured. I might as well stick with decrypter/shrink/nero since thats been working for me.

[DVDDave]

i have no problems ripping/burning as i use anydvd and dvdshrink. what is the benefit of using dvd decrypter?? does it take the place of anydvd?? sorrry for the newby type question---just curious.

[mrbass]

- No error handling. A single CRC error anywhere on the disc will abort the DVD Shrink backup operation with no option to bypass or recover. (Work-around: rip with DVDDecrypter and then use DVD Shrink to make the new image)

This IMHO is a good thing. If it is corrupt one should know. Even dvddecrypter by default doesn't have 'ignore errors' set by default. I have set it to do that when trying to salvage a dvd that was scratched up the ying yang but it was mostly a futile excercise. My suggestion is clean it with sink water prior to backing it up and if it fails then...well you know.

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No easy way to copy or even set aside space for non-video content on the disc, such as associated PC programs. (Work-around: play with the manual compression percentage for all items until you can free up enough space to copy the non-video content separately)

autoshrinkiso can do this....just make sure you choose custom output size in dvdshrink to compensate for the additional size of the files.

[mrbass]

i have no problems ripping/burning as i use anydvd and dvdshrink. what is the benefit of using dvd decrypter?? does it take the place of anydvd?? sorrry for the newby type question---just curious.

DVDDecrypter IMHO is the most reliable burning method out of any of them. That's in my limited experience maybe not yours. Anyway
anydvd $40, dvdregion free $40, and dvd43 (free) are all on-the-fly decryption utilities. DVD Shrink has built-in decrypting so no need for any of them.

DVD Shrink will never burn but rather read and create an .iso. DVDDecrypter can rip to an .iso from a dvd or burn an .iso to a DVD+R. DVDShrink in the latest beta 3.1.7 beta 3, 4 and 5 can launch DVD Decrypter to burn the .iso DVD Shrink outputs (instead of video files \VIDEO_TS directory).

The only caveat is you need to be running win2000/XP with NTFS partition since FAT32 has a 4GB file limitation. Otherwise you'll have to use autoshrinkiso.

The new dvdshrink is faster than autoshrinkiso in the sense that it needn't create an .iso from VIDEO_TS files (saves 5 mins there) and also requires 4.37GB (or there abouts) less disc space too!

[mike_rach]

Gotta agree with mrbass I've used a few programs but DVDdecrypter has been great for burning. Try making DVD+RW coasters at $4 a pop and see how big of a fan you are of a program's so-so burning engine...

DVDshrink burns to ISO now? Sweet! Gotta try it. With 3.x I have no probs with the VIDEO_TS folder being the proper size, but every time I try to create an image from that folder using IMGtools they are always too big.

[shelbyGT]

Alright, I got dvdshrink to make the .iso file

selected "auto burn with dvddecryptor"

so it makes the file, opens up decrypt... and I get an incompatible media error from decrypt, it didn't burn (yippee for coasters!)

So I still have the .iso file, opened up Roxio, dragged the .iso in, and it gave me some warning saying that since the file is over 4 gigs, it'll burn in UDF or something.

So I delete the .iso, have shrink just do the usual .ifo and .vob files.... but anyone know what might be happening here?

/edit - crap! now roxio isn't even burning the folders... what the heck?

[Jah_Rankin]

Ok thats what I figured. I might as well stick with decrypter/shrink/nero since thats been working for me.

U don't need any dvd or dvd region free if u have dvd shrink, where have u been, It even decrypts on the fly.

[shelbyGT]

so I can now burn +rw discs... but -r discs won't burn, what the FREAK!

[Jah_Rankin]

so I can now burn +rw discs... but -r discs won't burn, what the FREAK!

What the hell r u talkin about????

[dafreak]

so I can now burn +rw discs... but -r discs won't burn, what the FREAK!

you called?

[shelbyGT]

My story above:

After trying to have shrink/decrypt create and burn an .iso image (respectively), decrypt gave me an error stating there was an error on my disck when it was trying to burn.

so then I used shrink to make the usual ifo, bup and vob files and burn it with my usual burning software (roxio - dont laugh, its made over 40 backups). Roxio wouldn't burn it either! However, +rw discs will still be burnt.

That's what I was talking about.

[Jah_Rankin]

My story above:

After trying to have shrink/decrypt create and burn an .iso image (respectively), decrypt gave me an error stating there was an error on my disck when it was trying to burn.

so then I used shrink to make the usual ifo, bup and vob files and burn it with my usual burning software (roxio - dont laugh, its made over 40 backups). Roxio wouldn't burn it either! However, +rw discs will still be burnt.

That's what I was talking about.

Why r u suprised? Dude the alliance have proved that + RW is the preferered format as such as the 4x-8x speed burners

[shelbyGT]

why am I surprised? because the DVD-R I burnt 30 minutes to playing with the .iso mode in dvdshrink burnt perfectly. THATS why I'm surprised.

[mrbass]

Alright, I got dvdshrink to make the .iso file
so it makes the file, opens up decrypt... and I get an incompatible media error from decrypt, it didn't burn (yippee for coasters!)

So I still have the .iso file, opened up Roxio, dragged the .iso in, and it gave me some warning saying that since the file is over 4 gigs, it'll burn in UDF or something.

NTFS is a prerequisite for creating an .iso ...perhaps this is it..not sure.

[shelbyGT]

nope, ntfs is what it was on.

[FlittyBlitzman]

Does the cut feature in re-author mode work in frame size increments yet? DVDShrink has always been less than perfect for me in that regard.

[assemblage]

If DVD Shrink could backup workable menus, then it would be awesome. I use it for main movie backups + ImgTool + DVDDecryptor

[mmasw]

Try making DVD+RW coasters at $4 a pop and see how big of a fan you are of a program's so-so burning engine...

if you're actually making coasters out of RW disks, chances are the problem is either your burner or you, not software.

[FlittyBlitzman]

Exactly how do you make a coaster out of a RW disc? Do you physically have to put your beer down on it?

[Timoleon]

Exactly how do you make a coaster out of a RW disc? Do you physically have to but your beer down on it?

I've made six coasters with DVD+RW disks over the past couple of years. It inevitably happens on the fourth or fifth re-write, and I attribute it to lousy quality +RW disks. Changed brands and have never had the problem again.

[videsiboy]

New Bie Question-

I used DVD Shrink, Initial analysis -> Deep analysis -> Back up -> Write.

First two DVDs worked fine, but the third is hanging when I press Menu button?

Do i have to go through other procedure. I saw some posts saying that should work with DVD Decrypter + DVD Shrink.

What are the exact steps if I have to use both the softwares?

Thanks in advance.

[shelbyGT]

UPDATE TIME:

Well, I don't know what the problem was. I flashed the 1300a to 1.0A firmware (was at 1.09).

This did two things:

1) I can burn again on -r media (phew!)
2) ... and I can't explain this one, made my dvd-rom drive rip faster. Before I would get about a 7-8000 rate max on dvdshrink. I just did two movies, both got up to 11-12000. My god that's nice. Have no idea how changing the firmware on one affected the other, but it seems to have.

[shelbyGT]

New Bie Question-

I used DVD Shrink, Initial analysis -> Deep analysis -> Back up -> Write.

First two DVDs worked fine, but the third is hanging when I press Menu button?

Do i have to go through other procedure. I saw some posts saying that should work with DVD Decrypter + DVD Shrink.

What are the exact steps if I have to use both the softwares?

Thanks in advance.

The easiest method, using the programs you listed, would be to just use dvdshrink to rip to the harddrive. Then use whatever burning program you want to burn it to the media.

[NYPlayer]

The easiest method is.

Get the latest DVD Shrink beta.

Start DVD Shrink
Open your DVD
selct backup
Target = Iso Disc Image
select target image file
Check box- Launch DVD Decrypter to burn the ouput image.

All is automated.