chapers skip ahead on their own help?!?!?!?!?!

[bruno2121]

I have just come across a weird problem for the second time:

I rip with DVD Decrypter and compress with dvd2one. Then I burn with Nero. The resulting disc plays the menu and starts up fine. When I play the feature, each chapter plays for a second or two then skips ahead to the next chapter. Now this only happens when I play the disc on my Sony 300 disc player. It plays fine on all other players. The first time this happened it was with "Open Range" I just chalked it up to a fluke. The second time it happened on disc 3 of the Soprano's Season 1. All the other discs from Season 1 work fine. I tried backing up with dvdxcopy platinum and the same thing happened.

Does anyone have any idea what the problem is here? Any help would be apreciated.

[louthewiz]

Cheap media is the problem!! !

[northcat_8]

:P :P Maybe your DVD player is just skipping the boring parts of the movie for you :P :P

I agree with lou...

seems to be a compatibility issue.

[Phil Thomas]

I have had this problem with several titles, including Pirates of the Carribean, LOTR Two Towers 2nd disk and a few others, I cant remember.

If I compress the same titles with DVD Shrink, the copies play fine.
It's not cheap media (using Traxdata Ritek G04's), it's something to do with the way DVD2One produces the vobs, that the Sony doesn't like.

I have been in discussion with a couple of other guys, on another forum, who have the same problem. It's unique to DVD2One & Sony standalones & only occurs with certain titles .... often Disney ones.

Try running them through Dvd Shrink, instead of DVD2One and you'll lose the problem

[bruno2121]

Thanks, I'll try that. I doubt it has anything to do with the media. I have used several different types and I don't think any of them are "cheap"
Memorex, Fuji, and Phillips. I've also tried both DVD+RW as well as DVD+R. My only concern with trying a different program is that it also did the same thing with DVDXCOPY, so it's not just DVD2one. But I will give it a shot. Thanks for the help!

[jawgee]

...It's not cheap media (using Traxdata Ritek G04's)...

I believe that G04s are a crapshoot nowadays. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

jawgee

[Phil Thomas]

...It's not cheap media (using Traxdata Ritek G04's)...

I believe that G04s are a crapshoot nowadays. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

jawgee

Well .... I agree some Riteks are causing problems for some people, but Ritek own the Traxdata brand name, so these are generally much better than some of the relabled and overprinted stuff that's around.
I have burnt hundreds of these over the past 12 months and have never had a coaster.

Back to topic though, this is a DVD2One/Sony issue and has nothing to do with media. I have processed the same films, (which were toublesome with DVD2One), through DVD Shrink and burnt them to the same media, which have then worked fine.

[raymond_barnes]

after dvd2one run it through IFO EDIT, twice.i use to have that problem
the dvd would chapter skip on the sony nc 600 but not on the apex 1100.
don't forget to hit "get VTS sectors" after each run

[wy685mm]

@bruno2121,

which version of Nero are you using? I used Nero 6 to burn files produced by DVDDecrypter and DVD2ONE 1.40 without problems and they played fine on my Sony player until I grabbed the update packages from the Ahead site, and then i got the same problem. I have since switched to DVDShrink and all seems well. Also, try another burning software. I like Instant CD/DVD as it has never given me compatibility problems.

[bruno2121]

I'm using Nero 5. Again, this has only happened on two discs. I find it weird that the same thing happens on those two discs regardless of the number of times I retry. I have downloaded dvdshrink as suggested and will give that a shot. Thanks to all for the help.

Interesting note:
I have a friend that has a phillips dvd burner and has had the same problem on some newer movie titles. She has transfered a few vhs movies to dvd and had the exact same problem. she has also redone them and had the same thing happen again. I am having a hard time drawing a conection to my situation, but I am wondering if there is a copy protection issue.

[haw]

I had very similar problem with Ope nR ange ... DVDDecrypter>DVD2One>CopyToDVD
(just like other DVDs I've done, which work fine).

When I insert the O.R. disk on my Sony DVP-NS400D stand-alone player it first pixelates, then chapter skips randomly. They disk appears to be bad. However, when I take the same disk to my friend's house his stand-alone player accepts it with no problem (and the disk plays on my PC fine, too).

so, in this case ... it's clearly not the media ... it's something about the data burned onto the disk that my Sony DVD player does not like. And it's specific to this one movie (at least, I have not yet run across other titles with this problem).

I will try the DVDShrink option and see what happens.

[northcat_8]

haw -

This has been heavily debated.

In my opinion....if it plays in your friend's player but not yours....it is still a media problem. I can't see how it is anything other than that. The info is on the disc, it plays in your friends...so it got burned right...your player just doesn't like that disc. So you will either need to buy media compatible with your DVD player or you will have to buy a DVD player compatible with your media. Since media is a little cheaper to buy than DVD players....buy better media...hence, a media issue.

I am by no means a DVD-R expert but I think good media is media that is compatible with the widest number of DVD players. I mean what the heck good does it do to buy a disc that will play great only in Panasonic xxxx players? That player will eventually go bad and then you are stuck buying another player based on whether it likes your DVD-R media or not. Doesn't make sense to me.

[raymond_barnes]

recently my fix did not work for me,i did a little analyzing found out it is not the media (verbatim,mitsui,tyg or maxell),not the burner(pioneer a05s, liteon 411, 411@811 or the 451@851) or the burning program(nero 55.10.56, dvd2one, clonedvd or dvddecrypter)but it was the order of the vob ids versus the actual location of the vob id.let me explain,vob id 1=preview of main movie,vob id 2=movie previews,vob id 3= main movie.in my case vob id 1 and 2 where located in VTS_01_1.VOB ,vob id 3 was located in VTS_01_2 through VTS_01_5.VOB.when i played the disc i would see the main movie previews fine,then it skipped each chapter of the main movie until it reached the movies previews, it would play all of them fine.i separated vob id 1, 2 and 3 with IFOEDIT,changed vob id 2 to3 and 3 to 2 with MENUEDIT,renamed theVTS_01_XX_XXX's ,used IFOEDIT to create new ifo's.now the disc works fine.i am sure there is an easier way,but this what worked for me.

[Phil Thomas]

recently my fix did not work for me,i did a little analyzing found out it is not the media (verbatim,mitsui,tyg or maxell),not the burner(pioneer a05s, liteon 411, 411@811 or the 451@851) or the burning program(nero 55.10.56, dvd2one, clonedvd or dvddecrypter)but it was the order of the vob ids versus the actual location of the vob id.let me explain,vob id 1=preview of main movie,vob id 2=movie previews,vob id 3= main movie.in my case vob id 1 and 2 where located in VTS_01_1.VOB ,vob id 3 was located in VTS_01_2 through VTS_01_5.VOB.when i played the disc i would see the main movie previews fine,then it skipped each chapter of the main movie until it reached the movies previews, it would play all of them fine.i separated vob id 1, 2 and 3 with IFOEDIT,changed vob id 2 to3 and 3 to 2 with MENUEDIT,renamed theVTS_01_XX_XXX's ,used IFOEDIT to create new ifo's.now the disc works fine.i am sure there is an easier way,but this what worked for me.

That sounds like it is the answer and would explain why the movies in question, work ok in Movie Only mode.

I still believe it is only a DVD2One/Sony Standalone issue and only on certain titles, often Disney's.
The fact that it doesn't happen, when processed with DVD Shrink, ties it to DVD2One and the way it authors a Full Disk.

Definitely not a media issue.

[cthulhu]

I just experienced this same phenomenon last night trying to backup Open Range. I am using dvddecryptor, dvd2one, and copytodvd. I experienced skipping just like bruno2121 in my sony standalone dvdplayer. I did not however experience skipping on my backup of freaky friday which is also a Disney movie. This is only my 5th movie to backup so I am going to try just backing up the movie and not the full disc.

[jimmalenko]

I think media is contributing, but only in combination with the DVD player and also possibly the burning method.

I guess the test is this;

Try a couple of different brands of media;
Try a couple of different programs/methods to burn;
Try a couple of different DVD players, including a PC;

The problem doesn't necessarily have to be one of the above, it could be a combination.

[Phil Thomas]

I think media is contributing, but only in combination with the DVD player and also possibly the burning method.

I guess the test is this;

Try a couple of different brands of media;
Try a couple of different programs/methods to burn;
Try a couple of different DVD players, including a PC;

The problem doesn't necessarily have to be one of the above, it could be a combination.

I can understand your logic here, but I have tried all of your ideas and still my Sony skips all over the place.

I have used Grade A Riteks(Traxdatas, Ridatas,Ridisk & Datasafes) and all of these perform fine in my 106, when burning other disks.

I have used Nero (various versions), Copy to DVD & RNM, but still the Sony skips.

All of my disks work fine on the PC, PS2, Pacific, Pioneer, Cyberhome, Proview etc., but not on the Sony

If, however, I use DVD Shrink to process the movie, it will play fine on the Sony, no skipping

Maybe I should clarify skipping ...... the Sony seems to get itself confused and just jumps chapters etc. .... not the normal skipping symptoms of media issues.

The other thing is, if I use DVD2One in movie only mode, it plays fine.

In conclusion ....... this only happens on certain titles, it only happens with DVD2One in full disk mode and it's a problem only with Sony standalones.

[cthulhu]

I used DVD Shrink and backed up the full disk and it plays fine in my sony standalone dvd player. I might have to use dvd shrink from now on.

[jimmalenko]

@Phil Thomas:

Does that mean you'll just use DVDShrink on any titles that exhibit the behaviour in the future, or will you buy a cheap and nasty that plays everything ?