Newbie in Need of Help

[TheDVDNub]

Ok heres the deal.

I have 12 dvd-rs mostly with one but some with 2 one hour long movies on them. Now is there a way I could fit all these onto 1 or 2 dvds?

If not I want to make about 20 copies of each disk. Silk Screened and DVD menus and everything for resale. Now is DVD-R an acceptable format to sell DVDs in publicly? Can I buy dvd-rs and then burn them as dvd5 or dvd9? What are the DVDs I get from the video store, DvD9s? I need this dvd to play in any dvd player across the world. Is there any place in Toronto that can do this for me? And for how much? Can I buy blank dvd-rs and empty jewel cases and then give it to a pro and have them burn it as DVD5 or DVD9 or whatever works?

Cliff notes: ( I need 20 copies of each dvd with menus, silkscreened, and jewel box with insert)

[sacajaweeda]

Just out of curiosity, what is it you are selling and where are you selling it?

[TheDVDNub]

It's footage to which I own the rights to. Sorry I'm not allowed to be more specific untill later. I'll be selling it on my website, e-bay, and probably Bestbuy.

[TheDVDNub]

anyone??

[haloblack]

I have 12 dvd-rs mostly with one but some with 2 one hour long movies on them. Now is there a way I could fit all these onto 1 or 2 dvds?

Twelve hours of footage is a hell of a lot to pack onto even two dvd's, and that's if you're pressing dvd9. You could do it at half d1, but I'm not sure what you're trying to do here.

Now is DVD-R an acceptable format to sell DVDs in publicly?

Acceptable? Depends on how you mean it. You can do it if you want, but you better be prepared for a nightmare of technical support. Not all players support burned dvd's, and then there's the +R/-R issue, not to mention that some players just don't like some kinds of media. If someone gives you money for a DVD, good luck telling them that it's their player's fault that it won't work and not your disc.

Can I buy dvd-rs and then burn them as dvd5 or dvd9?

You don't burn "as" 5 or 9, that's what the media is, and home-burning of dvd9 isn't possible yet.

What are the DVDs I get from the video store, DvD9s?

Both. The key thing is that they're pressed, not burned.

I need this dvd to play in any dvd player across the world.

Then pressing is your only option. Period.

Is there any place in Toronto that can do this for me? And for how much?

You have a phone book, maybe? Or a search engine?

Can I buy blank dvd-rs and empty jewel cases and then give it to a pro and have them burn it as DVD5 or DVD9 or whatever works?

You can get a pro to master it for you (and since you have zero experience with this, that's exactly what you better do) and then get the discs commercially pressed. As I said earlier, -R is no longer an option.

[devil60]

go and downlod DVD Shrink 3.1

1 make a new folder on your desktop and rename it DVD Shrink

2 Set your DVD Shrink properties that you will see when you open it up to go to it ==and BINGO== You can go and delete out your lest work or let Shrink do it for you when it ask you on the next. turn off all none use junk you will see on the DVD so it will felt Then go to back up it must be all green on the bar on top



PPS after you start it go and get a cup of coffice as it will do it all non stop

[TheDVDNub]

Ok thanks for the replies!

How much Can dvd shrink usualy get onto 1 DVD? Is there anyplace I can buy DVD9 media?

Can you reccomend someone on this board to master the DVD for me? I could Paypal them their fee.

[devil60]

How much Can dvd shrink usualy get onto 1 DVD

Up to 120 mins. only. A 120 min move is 6 or so GBs it will shrink it so it will go to a 4.7 GB

[haloblack]

Is there anyplace I can buy DVD9 media?

No. DVD9 isn't available for home use yet.

Can you reccomend someone on this board to master the DVD for me? I could Paypal them their fee.

There are a lot of people around here who do pro-level work. Just be prepared to pay pro-level prices. This thread should give you a few leads.

[devil60]

haloblack:

Just you let you know == The cost for making DVDs out of VHS's is $25 up per HR. and it taks up to 5 Hrs to make a DVD from a VHS. No one is willing to go to jaill for copying a DVD that is under the copyrights law

[Noek]

Now is DVD-R an acceptable format to sell DVDs in publicly?

I made several DVD slideshows of pictures and bunred it using Roxio in both linear PCM and mpeg 1 layer 2 that played beautifully on my standalone system and my portable standalone that WOULD NOT play on either of my fathers standalone JVC units.

I then made another DVD (linear pcm only) and burned it using NERO that played on my standalone and both of my fathers JVC standalones, but not my portable.

I'm learning that regarding format and meida, the only thing you can be sure of, is that you can't be sure of anything :/

[devil60]

the only thing you can be sure of, is that you can't be sure of anything


Now you are starting to get it

[sacajaweeda]

Give AC3 a try.

[haloblack]

The cost for making DVDs out of VHS's is $25 up per HR. and it taks up to 5 Hrs to make a DVD from a VHS.

True, but he never said that he was working from VHS. I took DVDNub at his word that he already had everything in dvd-compatible format.

No one is willing to go to jaill for copying a DVD that is under the copyrights law

a) He said that he had the copyright to all the material.
b) This site seriously suggests otherwise.
c) A and B notwithstanding, I see your point...

[TheDVDNub]

Hey I checked one of the sponsers on this site and found this product.

http://store.yahoo.com/cdrdvdrmedia/dvd-duplicator-sureplay.html

It says it makes dvds that will play on 99% of new players and 90% of old ones?

Is this product any good? Is it going to be worth my $514US?

[andkiich]

I wouldn't go more than 4 hours in MPEG2 at half D1 on a DVDR. Anything more than that and you seriously risk image quality.

The other option, if you can wait, is the new dual layer burners. Hopefully someone will have a reasonably priced one out this year with reasonably priced media.

[sacajaweeda]

DVD/CD Write Formats Supported: DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R/RW

99% of new players and 90% of older players, eh?

[TheDVDNub]

Yes is this 99% and 90% a lie?

What do you think about this product?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2789342051&category=31509

[TheDVDNub]

Do you think im better off buying the first product and then getting them silk-screened?

[sacajaweeda]

Yes is this 99% and 90% a lie?

What do you think about this product?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2789342051&category=31509

http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackFromBuyers&userid=customsellers&...item=-1&de=off

That's a link to his feedback page where you'll find a negative rating from a person who bought one of them. Maybe you can ask that person what they thought of it?

Or will eBay's toothless law dogs let you do stuff like that?

FWIW, 3 of the 5 DVD players in my house won't play +R discs, and two them are brand new.

[Curt]

Late last year, I mastered and duplicated my first commercial DVD project. Like you, it was entirely my own original, copyrighted content. If this is a commercial venture, commercially pressed DVDs are the only option. Be sure to incorporate copy protection into your project. Copy protection is not invulnerable, but it helps keep honest people honest, and will help keep your investment reasonably safe.

It also sounds like you are trying to cram way too much material onto one DVD for commercial purposes. Commercial DVDs run roughly 45 to 90 minutes, not 12 hours. You would be far better off making eight 90 minute DVDs. Keep the video quality high. Customers don't want to pay $$ for marginal quality just to get a few more minutes of program. Your company's image and reputation are based on what you produce. Make yourself look good.

I edited my footage on Premiere, and mastered to DLT tape with Encore. I learned how to do it all by reading everything I could find on web sites just like this one, as well as related newsgroups. It takes some research, but it's not that hard. I had never even heard of a DLT tape before I mastered my first DVD. I called several prominent local wedding video companies, and they didn't know what it was either. That *really* surprised me. When I finished my research, I bought and installed a Quantum DLT1 drive on my computer, and made my first master. After all was said and done, it was actually easier than I thought it would be.

I designed my disc art, and had my project duplicated by a large company that specializes in DVDs. It was worth every penny. The discs are silkscreened in full color, and look professional. The minimum duplication run for pressed DVDs using a glass master is 1000 copies. With everything included (artwork, silkscreening, Macrovision copy protection, and duplication), it cost $1500 for 1000 copies. I've been told by other authors that the price falls dramatically at the 4000 copy level... somewhere in the .60 per disc range.

I invested $1700 in new software (Adobe Premiere Pro bundle), $1500 in duplication, and $1000 in the DLT drive to complete the project. I've been marketing my own product in the same ways you plan on marketing yours, and in less than 3 months I've sold $3900 worth of my DVDs. I sell them for $25 each, and at this point I still have 850 copies left to sell out of the original 1000. I've even sold them internationally to customers in Japan, Austrailia, Canada, Sweden, and South Africa. The Internet is a wonderful thing

I'm not a big time pro or anything like that. Like I said, this was my first commercial DVD. I hope you have good luck as well. Drop me an email if you have questions, and let me know how your project is going.

Curt

[TheDVDNub]

Umm he has 3 negative ratings out of 514 who left a positive. The dvd-rs that you are using i'm assuming you didn't burn with the product I mentioned earlier.

[TheDVDNub]

Curt,

Wow that was exaactly what I was looking for. I'll be sure to drop you an e-mail.

Thanks alot,
Jeff

[TheDVDNub]

Curt I couldn't find your e-mail so I sent you a PM

[sacajaweeda]

Umm he has 3 negative ratings out of 514 who left a positive. The dvd-rs that you are using i'm assuming you didn't burn with the product I mentioned earlier.

Yes, and a 4th negative from a dissatisfied you would probably seem just as superficial and meaningless as the other three. I see your point. You're probably right. Negative feedback on eBay obviously means nothing. My bad.

[TheDVDNub]

I'm not saying that negative feedback means nothing. But when you sell 517 items there are bound to be 3 people who didn't do their research before buying.

But look at the people who left negative feedback:

This item was refurbished and was sold as new. Item doesn't work properly F*cker - This person has a -1 rating on Ebay and uses the word ****** in his feedback.

2nd guy
Printer was in poor condition, exchanges only etc.,hassle, bad deal for me
The printer was damaged in shipping which is understandable out of 517 printers shipped at least 1 is bound to get damaged. And they offered him an exchange.

and the last guy doesn't work on MacOS as claimed, nid to call Bravo Support and it jams. Reply: It does work with MAC OS. You needed to download the software as you were told!! -This guy probably didn't know how to install the software or his computer was messed.


He seems legit to me. Do you have any advice on which product (not seller) is a better deal?

[sacajaweeda]

I merely tabled an observation is all. I wouldn't dare be as presumptuous as to tell one their business. Best of luck to you. That guy was probably just a liar anyway.

[zworg2]

[Yes, and a 4th negative from a dissatisfied you would probably seem just as superficial and meaningless as the other three. I see your point. You're probably right. Negative feedback on eBay obviously means nothing. My bad.

Without wishing to hi-jack a thread (tho this is semi-relevant

eBay feedback is a vital part fo the auction / sale process.

the relevancy of the feedback is dependant on a number of things.

1) How recent is it?
2) Is it a loner, or one of many?
3) was the problem sorted out?
4) what proportion of total is this one feedback (overall and for a certain period eg the last week / month)
5) is it retaiatory?

the feedback system is clearlyabused by some and well trusted by others, there are too many ifs and buts that can be thought of.

feeback is ONLY a guide

and then to cap it all accounts can be hi-jacked!!!

the problem is that although there are systems in place, there is not much you can do if a unresolveable problem does arise.

i will only buy small value items on eBay....

Zworg2