Can I produce mass units of DVD-R's to work on all Consoles?

[Sominex24]

I am using a SONY DRU-510A

I am curently using Sonic DVD-R's I got from Shop4Tech (@.59 each)

I am going to be burning and mailing DVD's nationwide for people to use on their console DVD Players

Is DVD-R the best format I should be using?

Is Nero Ultra 6.0, and Veritas (came with the burner) the best programs I should be using?


I had a woman call today and say that her DVD played until 24 minutes in, faded out and then stopped and gave an errror message (she is using a Sony DVP-NS300). The rror message was that the media was dirty, scratch, defective.

The disc looked fine when she checked it out though

Basically, what ways and methods can I use to ensure as best as possible that these DVD's will be able to be used in all DVD console units?


Thanks all

[sunderland]

do you mean you will be selling them to people all over the place because if so you will be getting a little visit from the mods soon to say it is illegal
but to back up disks for yourself ritek are the best and most reliable

[GabeB]

IMHO:

1. See if your recorder has a bitrate hack to write all dvd's as DVD-ROM type. This is what commercial dvd's are written as.
2. Use only top quality media. Yes, Riteks are one of the best.
3. Write an image to the DVD. ISO mode in DVD Decryptor works great.

I believe there are acceptable reasons he is mailing DVDs around the country. He could be doing conversions for customers or producing content for shows.

[bigshotceo]

do you mean you will be selling them to people all over the place because if so you will be getting a little visit from the mods soon to say it is illegal
but to back up disks for yourself ritek are the best and most reliable

He didn't say he was distributing copyrighted material. He could be distributing promos, an independant film, etc....

Personally, I'd go with Ritek. The extra money you pay will make your customers much happier as most will be able to play their dvds flawlessly.

[Sominex24]

IMHO:

1. See if your recorder has a bitrate hack to write all dvd's as DVD-ROM type. This is what commercial dvd's are written as.
2. Use only top quality media. Yes, Riteks are one of the best.
3. Write an image to the DVD. ISO mode in DVD Decryptor works great.

I believe there are acceptable reasons he is mailing DVDs around the country. He could be doing conversions for customers or producing content for shows.

1. Excellent. How can I find out about the "bit rate hack". I have a Sony Dru-510A

Will this effect the burning speed at all or cause any other complications?

2. How much is DVD Decryptor and is it a "burning" program as well?

Thanks so much for the good advice!

[andkiich]

DVDDecrypter is free, and it burns images, which DVDDecrypter can also make.

Download it from the TOOLS section.

[GabeB]

I just spent a few minutes trying to find out if your drive will allow you to change the bitrate setting but no luck. Try going into Nero when burning a DVD and see if you can manually select DVD-ROM. Or keep searching this site and google for an answer. There might be a firmware update that will allow you to do this. I know it's now available for my NEC-1300. This is what will make your disks compatible with almost all DVD Players. Oh, and Riteks yes.

[RabidDog]

consoles generally refers to xbox PS2 and gamycube
dvd player is just that.. mixing the two up muddies the water regarding your question, come clean Bluebeard, what are U doing? 8)

[Vanderlow]

Bitsetting capabilities are only done with "+" type DVDr. Nu-tech burners have bit setting capabilities along with some others.

[Sominex24]

I sure did screw up the terminology!

I mean DVD Players.

I will see if Nero lets me burn it as a "DVD-ROM"

And what are Riteks going for?

So, if DVD-ROM's are more compadible in stand alone players, why do so many people use burn dics as DVD-R and DVD+R ?


Thanks all!




Oh, off topic- anyone know if the Intel Pentiums are going to have a price drop soon?

Someone in another thread said they were going to go down in price yesterday.

[Vanderlow]

DVD-rom is what store bought movies are. some "+" burners have the ability to set + DVDr to DVD-ROM.

[disturbed1]

To be honest, since you're attempting to run a business out of producing DVDs, you'll want only the highest quality media.

Try some Taiyo Yudens, TDK, Maxell. DVD-R would be your better choice, since you stated mass nation wide distribution. DVD+R will not work on a few older machines.

Don't use Nero. Too many users have compliants about Nero not properly burning DVDs. These compliants far out way those that have good results.

There is no possible way to have 100% compatibility.

You can also offer a "demo" DVD. This will allow a customer to know if there are playback problems before contracting you to do a job.

Don't use freeware tools to make money, until you contact the author and make sure it's withing the policy. Some won't mind as long as you pay, or include a logo stating the product was made with that tool.

[disturbed1]

ISo, if DVD-ROM's are more compadible in stand alone players, why do so many people use burn dics as DVD-R and DVD+R ?

Some DVD Players will not read back a DVD+R if the book type is set to DVD+R. Instead you can alter this code with DVD-ROM, DVD-R.

This info is in the lead in of the disc. It tells the DVD playback device what type of disc it is. Panasonic has removed the ability to play DVD+R discs, how ever you can trick it into playing DVD+R media by changing the bit setting to reflect a book type of DVD-ROM or DVD-R and the DVD will have a better chance at playback.

[axolotls]

Yo Disturbed or others:

Is there an advantage or disadvantage on changing the code

from UDF 1.02 to DVD-R. I don't have the ability to change the book type to DVD-ROM (unfortunately).

I am trying to ask whether or not more DVD Players would be able to read DVD-R discs if they were "UDF 1.02" or "DVD-R"

I noticed DVDShrink keeps them as "UDF 1.02" and DVDDecrypter put one as "DVD-R"

Thanks,

Ax

[disturbed1]

UDF 1.02 is fine.

If you're changing the bit setting, DVD-ROM would be the best choice. If you're burning DVD-R, there isn't a need to worry about bitsetting or book type.

[Timster]

[/quote]

Panasonic has removed the ability to play DVD+R discs, how ever you can trick it into playing DVD+R media by changing the bit setting to reflect a book type of DVD-ROM or DVD-R and the DVD will have a better chance at playback.[/quote]

Which Panasonic? Every Panasonic I've tried, RV-32, S-35, and their latest released S-25 all play DVD+R without a problem.

[disturbed1]

Panasonic S35, RV-32, and S25 do not play DVD+R/DVD+RW media with the book setting of DVD+R. It has to be changed to either DVD-R or DVD-ROM for it to even load.

The Panasonic DMR series is the same way.

Perhaps your burner does the bitsetting for you.

[Timster]

Panasonic S35, RV-32, and S25 do not play DVD+R/DVD+RW media with the book setting of DVD+R. It has to be changed to either DVD-R or DVD-ROM for it to even load.

The Panasonic DMR series is the same way.

Perhaps your burner does the bitsetting for you.

I don't beleive this is correct. I have a lite-on 401s that doesn't allow you to change the bit settting. Every thing I burn has a bit setting of DVD+R according to DVDinfo and Lite-on smartburn utility. My Panasonics play all DVD+R and even play DVD+RW with the exception of the RV-32 which won't play DVD+RW. If you look at all the post in the player section you note that 95% or so of users report these players play these disks. Nero won't let me change the bit type because my firmware doesn't allow it. So I'd have to say the remark about Panasonic not reading DVD+R bit setting is not correct. I'm not sure where you got that info.

[FulciLives]

If you are making a lot of DVD discs that are the same then maybe you can take them someplace and get them professionally done.

A friend of mine did this with a video he made and wanted to sell.

He took the disc to a replication place and they made 1000 DVD discs with cases and artwork and even artwork on the PRESSED DVD discs.

Just like you buy in a store.

He said it cost him about $5.00 per disc overall to have this done.

He sells them wholesale for $10.00 and sells them also on his website for $19.95 whic is his "retail" price.

I believe the minimum order with such places though is around 1000 units. I know that is why he made 1000 units but last I talked to him he had sold more than half.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[The village idiot]

If you are making a lot of DVD discs that are the same then maybe you can take them someplace and get them professionally done.

A friend of mine did this with a video he made and wanted to sell.

He took the disc to a replication place and they made 1000 DVD discs with cases and artwork and even artwork on the PRESSED DVD discs.

Just like you buy in a store.

He said it cost him about $5.00 per disc overall to have this done.

He sells them wholesale for $10.00 and sells them also on his website for $19.95 whic is his "retail" price.

I believe the minimum order with such places though is around 1000 units. I know that is why he made 1000 units but last I talked to him he had sold more than half.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

This really is your best choice. Then the disks should be compatible in every dvd player. Just google for "dvd duplication" and you should get a mess of places to choose from.

[disturbed1]

I don't beleive this is correct. I have a lite-on 401s that doesn't allow you to change the bit settting. Every thing I burn has a bit setting of DVD+R according to DVDinfo and Lite-on smartburn utility.


I'm not sure where you got that info.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t173832.html
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t199930.html
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t181839.html
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t197687.html

My new Panasonic e80 DVD recorder doesn't play +R discs at all.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t198668.html

I have a Panasonic F65 and it plays everything including DVD-AUDIO except DVD+R/RW without the DVD-ROM booktype

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t198494.html
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=787474

was very upset when I found that my Panasonic Rv-32 does not like +R. It's so frustrating to read right here on this site about guys that have no problems with their Rv-32's playing +R.

There are many more, but this isn't a format war thread.

It's common knowldge that DVD+R needs to have the book type changed to gain the ability to play in most older players and Panasonic players. DVDPLUSRW.org has a whole section on bit setting, and why it's important to use it.

Perhaps you have a different Panasonic S35 than I do, because my player most definetly does not play DVD+R media with a book type of DVD+R. Though it does attempt to play Ricoh DVD+R media with a DVD-ROM book type. As is the same with 2 of my 3 PS2 consoles (Version 1 and 3).

[Timster]

While this is getting off topic, I'm sorry your pannys don't play them. i've played them on 2 s35s, 2 s25s and one rv32 and all play without a hitch. These are USA models. Still, majority of people in players review section can play DVD+R. All I'm saying is to state "Panasonic has removed the ability to play DVD+R discs" is untue and misinformation. cya

[FulciLives]

While this is getting off topic, I'm sorry your pannys don't play them. i've played them on 2 s35s, 2 s25s and one rv32 and all play without a hitch. These are USA models. Still, majority of people in players review section can play DVD+R. All I'm saying is to state "Panasonic has removed the ability to play DVD+R discs" is untue and misinformation. cya

Well it is also untrue then to state that ALL Panasonic units have ZERO problems playing back DVD+R/+RW discs because apparently some models can and some cannot even within the same model number. It is not uncommon for a model number to have more than one revision during the course of the model being made available. For instance a S35 made 3 months ago might be slightly different than a S35 made today and therefore the 2 units ... despite the same model number ... may not function 100% alike.

On a side note: I still don't understand why people insist on even playing around with the +R/+RW formats since they obviously got things all wrong and aren't even part of the official DVD forum. You don't hear people having major issues with -R discs (as long as you use quality media) but I hear it time and time again with anything +R including the Philips and Cyberhome DVD recorders that use +R formats.

I can't even begin to count how many posts I've read of people that can't properly RIP a DVD+R or DVD+RW that was made in a stand alone DVD recorder.

Philips is a BIG FAT JOKE.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Timster]

I still don't understand why people insist on even playing around with the +R/+RW formats since they obviously got things all wrong and aren't even part of the official DVD forum. You don't hear people having major issues with -R discs (as long as you use quality media) but I hear it time and time again with anything +R including the Philips and Cyberhome DVD recorders that use +R formats.

Really? Hmmm. I always observed the opposite. I can only go for my personal experience. I can burn any DVD+R, even cheap optodisk media on my lite-on 401s and it plays on all my Panasonics, an AMW V101, a Toshiba 3950, a Magnavox and a new RCA. They all played flawless aside from the rv32 and Magnavox that wouldn't play DVD+RW. Doesn't matter what software I use, Nero, RN max, copytodvd, etc. Maybe I just got a great burner, but I don't see any reason to switch over to -R. Whatever works for ya.

[axolotls]

UDF 1.02 is fine.

If you're changing the bit setting, DVD-ROM would be the best choice. If you're burning DVD-R, there isn't a need to worry about bitsetting or book type.

Thanks. One more go around if you don't mind.

So.. -IF- I am burning exclusively to DVD-R, are you saying that it doesn't matter whether the book-type (or setting) is reported as "UDF 1.02" or "DVD-R". I too, want to ensure maximum compatibility with my personal discs.

Ax

[johnnyz]

>>He sells them wholesale for $10.00 and sells them also on his website for $19.95 whic is his "retail" price.

Maybe it's not a proper post, but I really curious to ask why in the USA they sell things with a price like $19.95 or $179.95 but not $20 or $180? Do you really have that many coins?

[proxyx99]

Psychology my friend. Most who bought for 179.95 say they bought for 170 and change rather then say they paid almost 180. Proven trick that still seems to work with a human mind.

[johnnyz]

Thanks.
And, I think, if that, $179.99 is better because I can earn more 4 cent. hehehe.....
In my city one cent even one chiao is almost not used as currency and hard to find. hehe...that's funny.