Which is better for capturing Pentium4 or Athlon?

[Anonymous65]

I would shop for the best price on a mobo and CPU combo that works, and are sold together. This means it has been tested and works. As for viceo capture, and would go with a hardware encoder card, and drop the AVI capture and conversion process all together. It takes forever, you need tons of space, you get audio sync problems, and other incompatibility problems. The AVI and software conversion process might get you better quality, but not for long. The $100 PV-231 mepg hardware card makes VCD realtime captures that are cleaner than an uncompressed AVI and software converted to VCD! You might get marginal better results on heavy action video, but in my view that does not make up for hours of encoding time! For mpeg-2 video, go with Dazzle DVC2 or the PV256 card. More mpeg hardware compressors are on the door step with new chips that will outperform or be on-par with the "old" AVI and software compression prosess. Even USB devices can do this job very nicely if they have hardware compression inside. Max DVD video bit rate is 9 Mb/s and the USB-1 can handle 12Mb/s, so there is no reason why a simple USB bus can't handle full DVD quality mpeg compressed video. During the next 6 months you should see several new USB mpeg capture boxes with very high quality, all with real time compression. Spend the extra money you have on a nice mpeg editor.

[vitualis]

What can I say speedy except that nowhere have I claimed to be a "professional". I consider myself an "amateur" at VCD issues. Furthermore, I don't hide behind e-mail or private messages. I have the right to respond publically just like anyone else.

"Raw nerve"? Sorry, but I must ashamedly admit that this little flame war has been rather amusing.

I must say that I'm continuing amazed at the vitriol of your posts. I wonder if you've realised that they characterise you exactly and indeed, do little more than that.

Regards.

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Michael Tam

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[Sefy]

speedy, i'm not here to get between you and vitualis, as he seems to enjoy himself, I don't believe anyone here has claimed to be a "Professional" in VCD and all it's sides, but from what I can see, atleast from my point of view, vitualis has helped alot of people and so has snowmoon, when I started here, they both helped me, directly or indirectly.

For me, this whole VCD is just a hubby, I find many of the things people want to accomplish with it rather amusing mostly because I like to just play and watch a movie, I don't do chapters, or menus or animation, I just like to go like the good old days of putting the Tape in the VCR and pressing the Play button.

Being a professional at anything, isn't always about having the most knowledge, it's how you use what you have to try and help others, and believe me, that is much more difficult then acquiring new knowledge, having patience is a higher virtue then saying you know everything, cause the person you are trying to help does not always know all that you know, and it's your job to try and help them at any way that you can.

I've recently tried to stay away from all this type of argument, cause lets face it, no one wins, who ever is in love with Intel will still be in love with Intel at the end of it and who ever is an AMD follower, will still be an AMD follower, and at the end of it all, the guy asking the question ended up with no one to help him out.

So back to the main question, it does not matter if you have Intel or AMD, as Capturing relies mostly on two things which I believe were said earlier, the first would be your Capture Card or Device, the second would be the speed of your Hard Drive, it most be able to sustain alot of data at a constant rate for quality to be good, CPU is more for the encoding process or for games, or for many other things, but as far as I see it, it has nothing much to do with Capturing itself, if you got a lousy capture card, except lousy results no matter how fast your CPU is.

[naed45]

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On 2001-10-19 15:53:07, Ronald_B wrote:
I haven't bought a new computer yet, so I'm trying to figure out if a Pentium 4 is best. I want to capture with the ATI AIW Pro. I figure that the Pentium 4 might be better since finding drivers and encoding software optimized for Pentium 4 would be easier.

I understand that MHz doesn't equal performance, but IMO, many more Pentiums 4's are sold than Athlons so finding encoding software, drivers, etc optimized for the Pentium 4 would be easier.
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Usually forums are a great place to get good information, but unfortunately things change when Pentium and Athlon are mentioned in the same sentence.

I wouldn't trust anything I read in any forum/newsgroup with regard to a comparison of Athlon and Pentium. Not because _everything_ posted is false, but because you can't tell which part is false and which is true - unless you research yourself. I use google to search for reviews and other articles. Of course even then it's possible to run into bias, but I'd dern sure trust that more than what I've read here.

Here are some links. I have not read all of them, and I don't vouche for their accuracy or objectivity, but hey this is a small sample of what's out there.

- http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/ab2e.htm (from snowmoon's post)

http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1524
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2816826,00.html?chkpt=zdnnp1tp02
http://multimedian.com/
http://anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1543
http://www.cpureview.com/rev_ath180_a.html
http://www.animationartist.com/2001/08_aug/reviews/polywell_133f.htm
http://video.multimedian.com/reviews/powerdirector.html
http://www6.tomshardware.com/business/00q2/000608/fab30-04.html

Of course these may not address your capturing question. Their purpose is to address other comments made. But in regard to capturing, IMHO I think Sefy's and tinycorkscrew posts are very helpful.

[Shabubu]

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On 2001-10-20 19:07:00, sesquim wrote:
"look at the sixty minutes thing on Star Wars the Phantom Menace if you don't believe me" what does this mean? that they use MAC to make 60minutes of Star Wars? So if i want a computer that is going to be used for video editing, capturing etc.. MAC is the best for it?

On the 60 mins thing it showed you the creation of all the graphics for the film, they were using a mac