Latest Nero version is THE TOOL for bin/cue images!!!!

[shimrod]

Nero is the ONLY application that burns the bin/cue images correctly. Nero succeeded where all others failed.

I had an I-Author image file of 850 Mb in *.cif format that I wanted to burn on a 90min CDR.
I tried to burn it with Easy CD Creator and it failed!

I converted it with CDMage to a bin/cue image.
I tried to burn it with Fireburner and CDRWIN and they both failed.

Only Nero was able to make a perfect SVCD which I'm able to play on my DVD player.

Another dance around the house!!!!

[vitualis]

That's all rather bizarre... There was probably something wrong with the CUE/BIN image you made when you converted it with CDMage...

I can tell you that Nero incorrectly burns multitrack CUE/BIN images 100% of the time because of the following: http://www.hvrlab.org./~hvr/vcdimager/nero_bug.html

Thus, you should never ever burn CUE/BIN images with Nero.

Regards.

[Hateslife]

Beyond the bin/cue problems, Nero does NOT burn good SVCD's. I've burned a couple dozen with Nero, and -all- of them were broken. They worked, but only in some DVD players, and they never fast-forwarded.

[Frisco]

Hateslife,

I have never had a problem burning SVCD's with Nero. It has done a great job everytime and I'm very happy with the quality I get out of it.

And, I can always fast forward or rewind without any problem.

[Jeomite]

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That was because of a 'bug' in earlier versions of Nero didn't have the SCANDATA.DAT in the SVCD folder (that file lets most players fast-forward and rewind). In the newest version, v5.5.5.1, this bug is fixed.

BTW, CDRWIN is my preimer choice for burning CUE/BIN.

[Sefy]

CDRWin can't overburn beyond 80min, and it has problems with Chapters which are beyond that point, I suggset you use the free CDRDao which can be used through TSCV or any of the VCDImager GUI's now, as it has the Overburn support and burns a 100% correct all the time.

[VidGuy]

I've burned an 80 min 20 second CDR with CDRWIN (4.0a). I don't know if that qualifies as an overburn or not, but it surprised the heck out of me...... Great for those days when your calculations were off by just a tad.

[shimrod]

Let me explain this again:
I have a *.cif image made with I-Author.
It contains animated menus, chapter lists, 2 sound channels and subtitles!

I tried to burn it with Easy CD Creator, Fireburner and CDRWIN. I tried all settings (TAO/DAO). Some gave an error, others didn't. But NONE of them made an SVCD I could play in my Mustek DVD player. And finally...

ONLY NERO RECOGNIZED THE IMAGE CORRECTLY AND BURNED A PERFECT SVCD.

And Vitualis, my cd contains multiple tracks and plays them perfectly!!! 100% failure??? I don't think so!
Perhaps the problem is a VCDImager issue!

I can only say that the I-Author -> CDMage -> Nero(cue/bin) combination works great for me! And it took me some time before I got there.

And another dance around the house

[Jeomite]

I have sucessfully overburnt an audio cd to 82:16 with CDRWIN.

CDRWIN considers anything over 74:00 an overburn. =|

[Sefy]

VidGuy, have you ever tried burning 90min VideoCD which Chapters using CDRWin ? I believe you might find that after 80 min it will complain about the Cue File being over 80min.

shimrod, even as I am like you, I love using Nero for everything that i can, and I also tried burning a Cue/Bin image with Nero, which resulted in the disc not even being identified by the DVD, it might be as you said because of VCDImager, but if 3 other program burn the same file correctly, maybe something is wrong with Nero when it comes to certain images, after all, you did mention your original image is a CIF.

Jeomite, you mentioned the 82min was an Audio CD, have you tried burning a Cue/Bin file of a Video-CD that as Chapters on it ? and one of those chapters is beyound the 80min point ?

[vitualis]

Sefy, CDRWin can definitely overburn past 80 min (I've done it myself for CUE/BIN images of VCDs)...

The newer versions of VCDImager put additional index points at the chapters and you may be right that CDRWin can't burn any index points past the 80 min mark...

Actually, coming the think of it -- I vaguely remember in the VCDImager manual that the VCD specs say that all chapter entries MUST be below the 80 min mark as anything higher than this cannot be referenced?? Perhaps there is a more fundamental thing at play here and CDRWin is the only one burning it correctly...

shimrod, Goldenhawk created the CUE/BIN image format and thus only CDRWin can be guranteed 100% compliance with the format. Furthermore, if you actually read the article, you'd realise that Nero (at least that version) does incorrectly burn multitrack CUE/BIN images 100% of the time. Perhaps they fixed this glaring bug.

Regards.

[Sefy]

vitualis, I completly agree with you regarding Nero burning the Bin files incurrectly as i've seen it for myself, and i'm also aware that Goldenhawk are those who invented the Cue/Bin format and perhaps they are the only ones burning it the best, but regarding 90min, I can tell you for sure that CDRWin would not burn the image, while CDRDao burned it without a problem and the disc was playable on everything I tried it on (PowerDVD,WinDVD, H+ and Pioneer 525).

[vitualis]

Thanks for the info.

My impression of CDRDAO improves all the time...

Regards.

[shimrod]

OK, how do I say this....

I very humbly apoligize for messing up the Nero versions.
This trouble happens when using multiple PC's and removable harddrives. I installed the latest version on the wrong disc.

The Nero version I used successfully was 5.5.2.4.
The latest version 5.5.5.1 has indeed a serious bug.

I will try to be more careful in the future!

Sorry guys!!!

[Sefy]

It takes a great person to admit a mistake, and we all make mistakes, so nothing to be sorry about it

[waldok]

ANd although I'm a bit late here, I can confirm, like Sefy said, that there seem to be no way for burning 90Min SVCDs with Cd-R win, every chapter above 80min is reported as invalid.

Even though I manually removed the chapters above 80 mins in the cue file, CD-R win still didn't accept my 90min blank CD...
Any other similar experience on your side?

Waldok

[Truman]

Remove the chapter points in the xml file and create a new cue/bin.