after encoding / burning, Divx,Xvid to DVD, Video is CHoppy!

[fuubuu]

help, i spent 26 HOURS encoding 8 episodes and there all udderly choppy and slideshow like! Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy??

[ZippyP.]

Nobody here can read your mind. If you give a detailed description of how you produced the disk (programs, settings etc.) then maybe someone can tell you where you went wrong.

[Hardcoreruss]

Possibly a framerate problem what is your source file details and what are you encoding to ?, ntsc, pal ?

[fuubuu]

Okay well, i have 8 episodes of a favorite series of mine, i used Ulead Video Studio 8 to join them then frameserved and Encoded to DVD using TMPEG with default settings (Non-interlaced,4:3,Motion something fast, CBR Mpeg layer 2,) Once it finished i used TMPEG DVD Authour and made the DVD. Then burned with CloneDVD. Now when i play the DVD the first episode plays fluid, but the other 7 encoded in Xvid are Chopped up, and play like a slide show. The audio is fine tho.

[fuubuu]

its NTSC

[Hardcoreruss]

I think it may be a problem because you merged the avis, this is notorious for causing problems. Try encoding each episode seperately and then merging them once they are MPEG's.

[fuubuu]

any other suggestions?

[macleod]

Could also be the source. If you downloaded these videos or even made them yourself, the frames per second may be considerable less than the required 29.976 or 23.976 (PAL is 25fps). That is usually the culprit.

[fuubuu]

Start: 1/22/2004 1:11:07 PM
End: 1/23/2004 12:19:18 AM
Dealing time: 11:08:10
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Naruto\Naruto - 28.mpg
Format: DVD NTSC (MPEG-2 720x480 29.97fps CBR 2000kbps, Layer-2 48000Hz 384kbps)
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Music 2\Naruto - 28.avi
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Music 2\Naruto - 28.avi

Result: Aborted by user
Dealing time: 11:08:10
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 29.mpg
Format: DVD NTSC (MPEG-2 352x480 29.97fps CBR 2739kbps, Layer-2 48000Hz 384kbps)
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 29.avi
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 29.avi

Result: It was not encoded.
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 30.mpg
Format: DVD NTSC (MPEG-2 720x480 29.97fps CBR 2740kbps, Layer-2 48000Hz 384kbps)
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 30.avi
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 30.avi

Result: It was not encoded.
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 31.mpg
Format: DVD NTSC (MPEG-2 720x480 29.97fps CBR 2000kbps, Layer-2 48000Hz 384kbps)
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 31.avi
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 31.avi

Result: It was not encoded.
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 32.mpg
Format: DVD NTSC (MPEG-2 720x480 29.97fps CBR 2000kbps, Layer-2 48000Hz 384kbps)
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 32.avi
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 32.avi

Result: It was not encoded.
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 33.mpg
Format: DVD NTSC (MPEG-2 720x480 29.97fps CBR 2000kbps, Layer-2 48000Hz 384kbps)
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 33.avi
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 33.avi

Result: It was not encoded.
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 34.mpg
Format: DVD NTSC (MPEG-2 720x480 29.97fps CBR 2000kbps, Layer-2 48000Hz 384kbps)
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 34.avi
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 34.avi

Result: It was not encoded.
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C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 35.mpg
Format: DVD NTSC (MPEG-2 720x480 29.97fps CBR 2740kbps, Layer-2 48000Hz 384kbps)
Video: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 35.avi
Audio: C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\Desktop\Movies\Naruto\[TW] - Naruto\[TW] - Naruto Episode 35.avi

Result: It was not encoded.
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[macleod]

maybe I am missing something obvious, but posting what you did doesnt tell me anything. All it means is you tried to convert an avi to standard dvd resolution. What is the source like. Basically, please tell me:

bit rate:
frames per second:
resolution:

An application called gspot will tell you all of this.

[fuubuu]

[quote="macleod"]

bit rate:
frames per second:
resolution:
quote]

842 kb/s

119.875

640x480 (1.33:1) [=4:3]

then...

902 kb/s

119.875

640x480 (1.33:1) [=4:3]

then...

921 kb/s

so on so forth

[fuubuu]

help a me pleas3!

[macleod]

When I got your initial response to my quote, quite honestly I couldnt tell if you are very unfamilair with how to do this stuff or were being an ass. The reason I thought that is your source information is always going to be your source. It doesnt change, the output is what changes. Based on your last post, I am guessing that you are just plain stuck and wasn't trying to be a smart ass...

Please answer my question and I can then try to help you out.

What I have gathered is that you have a source AVI that is 640x480 and in the 800-900kb bit rate. What I still dont know is what the frames per second is. THAT is the final item needed in order to determine why the video is choppy. DVD resolution is 29.976 fps. If your source is well under that, then THAT is the reason that it is choppy. There are a few other possibilities, but..........

Again, please tell me your frames per second on the source file and we can see what needs to be done.

[fuubuu]

119/Fps

[Gazorgan]

What we need is this:

Source files:
1) Size
2) Length
3) Framerate
4) Audio type, sampling Rate, and bitrate.
5) Codec for the video

Gspot can give you all this.


I think I know what the problem is (framerate). You also need to change some settings in your MPEG2 encoding (the Audio bitrate is too high for 2-channel stereo).

[fuubuu]

i used Gspot to give the other information, but here goes again

1) Size = 170 MB (or 174,594 KB or 178,784,256 bytes)
2) Length = 0:23:05(...,02,03) 84%MB Video Data, 27% is audio
3) Framerate = "Cant find" but fps is 119.875
4) Audio type, sampling Rate, and bitrate = 0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3 48000 Hz, 160 kb/s (80/ch, stereo) CBR, \
5) Codec = DIVX/XVID, DivX 4 (OpenDivX),

[ada.k]

I too have been searching for answer to this very problem. The trouble is it only happens on 23.976 conversions. The choppy view is that it is kinda missing frames every now and then.

Take this movie :- here is what Gspot says

XVID
runtime 01:39:40 (143,387fr)
x,y (576*304) 1.89:1[36:19]
bitrate 876kb/s
FPS 23.976
Qf 0.202 bits/pixel
AUDIO
0*0055 id'd as MPEG 1 layer 3
Bitrate 130 kb/s (65/ch, stereo) VBR LAME 3.89
FS 48,000

I have used VDUB (which produces the VBR audio error warning when first loading the XVID file) saved the audio as uncompressed WAV and saved the video without the audio. I have also checked for bad frames and it can't find any.

I have then used CCE and TMPGENC and Mainconcept following guides found on this website. all come out a little choppy. Allthough CCE seems to produce the best video out of the lot but audio is a little out of sync even with uncommpressed wave.

this only happens on 23.976 video.

anybody any ideas. what bitrate should i encode audio in.

[fuubuu]

so how am i supposed to see a FPS thats in the 20-29 range? Im getting this stupd hunderd nineteen all the time.

[macleod]

I have no idea why it is saying 119 fps, but that "has" to be the reason why it is choppy (it really cant be 199 frames a second). I dont have my calculator out, but a 117 meg avi that is 23-24 minutes long is not a "normal" size. Usually (at least to me) a 23-24 minute video would be in the 200+ range, but there isnt a "usual" when it comes to avi (definetely depending on where the avi was obtained).

I am going to give you a definitive the issue has to do with goofy frames per second. All I could recommend would be to make it a 23.976 vcd (less frame loss from the 29.976 fps standard).

[Gazorgan]

170 mb is the 4 files/cdr size. It is a standard, just like 230 and 350 MB.

Yep, 119 fps is an issue. You can have an AVI with that framerate, but yours aren't.

I really suspect yours are from a PAL source and are at 25 fps. You chop is from an improper encoding. It can also be an interlacing issue or field order issue.

[fuubuu]

SO Next time i encode i'll use PAL settngs, But what about interlaced and field order? how should i set them?