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  1. rip til your hearts content without worrying about the federales busting in your house, arresting you and putting you in a 'federal pound me in the ass prison'..

    http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=musicNews&storyID=4152687


    i'm sure this hasnt stopped anyone, but its good news none the less.

    does this make dvdxcopy legal now? (not that i would use that POS program anyhow)
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    I like the last line
    The case was the first time the Norwegian government had attempted to punish an individual for accessing his own property.
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    That is not what this decision means at all. The guy was not even being sued for breaking the law, it was a civil matter.

    All this decision says is that a domocile of one state cannot be sued in a different state simply because they should have known that posting DeCSS code would have some effect on that other state's economy. This is purely a geographical ruling, it only affects WHERE a suit like this can be brought. There have been countless other similar rulings. Its the stream of commerce argument...just because you put something out there in the economy/world/internet that doesn't necessarily mean you can be sued anywhere that it has an effect.

    You can't just sue someone in any state you want. Unless they live there, you serve them with process there, or the thing you are suing about occurred directly in that state, the only way to sue someone is if they have substantial ties to that state, ie: they sell alot of products there or make frequent business trips etc...

    Basically, California's trade secret law cannot be imposed on the actions that this guy takes in Texas. He has no substantial ties to California, but that doesn't mean he can't be sued in Texas for the very same thing under a Texas trade secrets law.

    This ruling says absolutely nothing about the legality of using or posting DeCSS code. Violating a trade secret law is not a crime, its just grounds for damages...like breaking a contract.

    This case really doesn't mean much of anything to anyone other than the guy who was being sued, but it does show us what kind of mindset the supreme court has on this matter. If this guy were sued under a similar Texas trade secret law, the court might have ruled that CSS does not qualify as a trade secret. THEN that would eliminate one possible civil action available to copyright holders using CSS code...but that doesn't even begin to address things like the DMCA or copyright law in general.
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    tidy explanation there, adam. thanks!
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  5. Originally Posted by adam
    Basically, California's trade secret law cannot be imposed on the actions that this guy takes in Texas. He has no substantial ties to California, but that doesn't mean he can't be sued in Texas for the very same thing under a Texas trade secrets law.
    I'm in California but my website's in Texas...so where does that put me? The courts still haven't decided this one way or the other. Until then exercise your fair use right.
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    Adam is quite right.

    Also, it doesn't mean the future will be that much different.
    Other, internation laws are pending and agreements with them that will soon have a larger impact on all of us.

    This is just the infamous "tip of the iceberg," folks.
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    Originally Posted by jeex
    rip til your hearts content without worrying about the federales busting in your house, arresting you and putting you in a 'federal pound me in the ass prison'..

    http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=musicNews&storyID=4152687


    i'm sure this hasnt stopped anyone, but its good news none the less.

    does this make dvdxcopy legal now? (not that i would use that POS program anyhow)
    GREAT F**CKING NEWS! You should have posted this in the "News" section of the site to draw more attention. This is glorious news for just about everyone on this board.
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    Originally Posted by i am x
    GREAT F**CKING NEWS! You should have posted this in the "News" section of the site to draw more attention. This is glorious news for just about everyone on this board.
    Read the whole thread i am x. This case really doesn't decide much of anything as far as DeCSS is concerned.
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