Help a newbie with a weird idea

[killerfabber]

Here we go:

i'd like to record part of a movie in real time, while it is playing on powerdvd or wmp...
to make a collection of the best action scenes :P
don't laugh i know it's weird hehe

is there a way to record a video while it is playing on pc?

with an app like "record" .... few minutes.... "stop" ????

u get what ai mean???

many thanks in advance

[Tommyknocker]

Screen captures of playing video is usually very difficult. There are work arounds, though. Can you tell me what the final product will be?

[killerfabber]

something like a "compilation" of greates scenes of many movies.....

u know what i mean? i.e. pear harbor attack, some matrix scenes, armageddon's explosion and so on.......... :P

[Tommyknocker]

Let me try to be a little clearer: Will it be AVI, MPEG, WMV, etc?

[Gazorgan]

Right Idea, wrong method.

Here's how I do it.

I use DVDShrink (although Nero Recode would work) and 'backup' the scene I want (requires re-author mode). I then have a folder with my scene in it. Rinse and repeat until you have your scenes. DVDDecryptor can do it as well if it's a chapter.

Now I use TMPG Author, and import DVD Video. I group my clips logically and make a menu. Done. No re-encoding or quality loss. It also supports trimming, so in theory I can load a whole DVD and jsut highlight the part I want. I can actually do things like put Pulp Fiction in chronological order this way.

Some of my best of DVD's include a best of Martial Arts (Including the perenial classic 'A Fist Full of Yen' ), Best of Sword fighting scenes (re-done to include KillBill and LOTR2 scenes), Best of Scenes for the mood altered (drunk or other, including the dog scene from American Wedding among dozens of 'intense' scenes).

You get the idea.

[killerfabber]

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!! that is what i mean


but, with dvdshrink how can i select the scene, where timing is critical??? doesn't it just allow me to choose single chapters???

it allow to choose (something like) from "min 3:46 to min 5:24" ????


thanks

[killerfabber]

OMG AWESOME!!!!
i've not seen the START/END option!!!!


u're da MAN Gazorgan!!!!!!!!!!

MANY MANY MANY THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
u've made me happy tonight (and with some work to do hehe!!!)

[northcat_8]

OK, so we are cutting the "plot" parts out of some pornos..... :P

....ANYWAY.....

I think the best way would be to use DVD Decrypter to rip the VOB files individually and then cut them up later. You can use a variety of programs to do that if you want. Or you can convert them to AVI files with DVD2AVI and then work with them in a video editing software.

OR if you have a capture card you can just run your DVD player into your capture card and then capture the video just like you would any other.

[Gazorgan]

Nooooooooooooooo!

My way is as simple as it gets. No re-encoding. Straight DVD to DVD. DVDShrink isn't going to compress anything for a 5 minute clip. Keep the AC5.1 sound. My current project has 27 scenes in it, runs about 1 hour 35 minutes and total project time is under 3 hours(best of gun shootout scenes, or the you can't hit shit with a machine gun DVD. That's about 6 minutes/scene, 4 of which is finding the start/end points. Now that I can preview sound (thank you 3.1.2!) it's muuuuuuch easier.

I have the option to group scenes in the menu, which was useful for the martial arts disk (flying and non-flying kung-fu :P )

[Craig Tucker]

OK, so we are cutting the "plot" parts out of some pornos..... :P

Hardly worth it, to crop 30 seconds

[Bodene]

What???? Pornos have plots????

I just thought of sumthin....

All those peeps that post about removing *objectionable* content from their DVD's should get together with the peeps that want nuttin but these objectionable sections of movies. They could pool their resources and the compilers could wind up with a nice *plot* DVD for their troubles. lol

[killerfabber]

what r u guys talkin about???


anyway, garzogan, is there any way to cut out scenes from a vcd either???

thanks in advance

[Groami Geistalt]

I'd like to pursue the other part of the original question, recording from PowerDVD while an AVI project is playing in PowerDVD.

I have some AVI files here and from what I have gathered so far, straight AVI>DVD conversion is extremely 'lossy'.
I want to try recording the image while the AVI is playing in PowerDVD -- the way CapWiz captures from a VHS tape while it's playing.

I'm hoping that the captured file (MPEG format or whatever) will be a full screen capture and not just a byte-for-byte copy, because I want the final result to be in DVD format.
So first of all, what do you think, is this a waste of time because we're talking about byte-for-byte copy, or is it worth pursuing because the on-screen image would be a full image when captured?

If/Then... Can this be done across USB or ethernet cable? Maybe I could play the file on one computer here, and record it with CapWiz somehow on the other computer, like I do now from the VCR...?

I'd like to know what software or/and cards I'd need. I'm hoping I can just set it up like I have the video feed set up through CapWiz now.
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[thecoalman]

So first of all, what do you think, is this a waste of time because we're talking about byte-for-byte copy, or is it worth pursuing because the on-screen image would be a full image when captured?

Waste of time, first to convert to DVD it HAS to be a DVD compliant resolution. Don't know what yout AVI's are but most likely they don't exceed this size..... There's so much wrong with that I won't even go into detail.

Conversion from AVI->DVD is not as lossy as you might think, there's an example here, see the first two screenshots. https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=257651 Whatever has been lost would be imperceptible. This example is from a real good source, most likely yours is not so it will be that less noticeable, most important thing to do is use a good encoder.

There's some good info here start with understanding your source: www.digitalfaq.com

[Groami Geistalt]

TheCoalman:

Thanks for those links, I wasn't sure where to start.

When I capture image from VHS through CapWiz, the resultant file is an MPEG:
I figured that if I can get an MPEG by recording the VHS image as it played out from the VCR, then there must be a way that I can make an MPEG as the AVI played out from a second computer -- the second computer would take the place of the VCR. I'd imagined that I only needed the proper physical plugs and wires from that computer, through the decoder and into CapWiz.

When an AVI plays in PowerDVD, PowerDVD's screen can be adjusted so that it fully fits the computer monitor or TV screen, of course, with no grainy texture to the image:
So, as an alternative to connections through CapWiz, I thought that maybe there was a way to record the image as it played from PowerDVD on the same computer -- again, saving this to an MPEG.

There'd have to be that intermediate step, working not with the AVI but with the image that the AVI/player generated. That image would be the MPEG, and the MPEG could burn directly to a DVD if it didn't need tidying first. Basically working with pixels instead of bytes.

Looked good in theory...

Thanks again for your input, and for those links.

[thecoalman]

most important thing to do is use a good encoder.

Let me elaborate a little more on that because that isn't exactly tru but just pertains to your question.

If you really want to improve your VHS capture the best way to do it is through hardware such as the VCR, TBC, good capture card....even the cables you use can have an affect. It all adds up in the end. See some of the posts in the restoration forum for some more info.