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  1. Member WiseWeasel's Avatar
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    OK, it's the moment you've all been waiting for; I'm pleased to announce the launch of Hades, a free new DVD ripper for MacOS X. This is the second public release, at version 0.32, and is still not quite finalized. Expect significant changes (improvements hopefully) as the beta cycle progresses. The author of this app shall remain anonymous, though (s)he might read this forum on occasion, so you can post comments here, or I can relay info if necessary.
    Hades is a front end for the open-sourced dvdbackup program, part of the DVD-Create project for linux. It is merely a handler for the executable, and is not using the source code directly. As such, it is a free, but not open-sourced application, with the compiled dvdbackup executable contained within.
    In this original release, you must specify a name for the folder it saves the DVD as to your HD. Whole DVD mode is the most common usage, and this backs up the entire VIDEO_TS folder to your hard drive, minus the Macrovision, CSS and region protections. There are several known issues:
    • There cannot be any spaces in the path to the application. This means that the drive it resides on, along with all the folders it's contained in cannot have any spaces in their names.
    It would be nice if someone with some offshore bandwidth to spare for the cause could get in touch with me, and we could set up a nice website, with several mirrors. For the time being, this is to be distributed in a low-key manner, with posts to message boards and sharing through P2P only (that means no VersionTracker or MacUpdate). We can see about a nice website when we get some good offshore hosts somewhere protected from the DMCA. Enjoy:
    hades032.sit
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    dead link...
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    Oops, fixed . . .
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    just got it...
    have class today but will try it when i get back

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    WiseWeasel & unknown author
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    Just a little testing info for anyone interested:

    Just ripped a DVD that was 4.03GB.

    It resulted in a folder called THE_MOVIE. In side this folder was a VIDEO_TS folder, which contained all the files from my DVD.

    The rip took about 14 minutes on a Dual 2.0ghz G5.
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    Picture of the program:

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    I read the first post where it mentions there can be no spaces where the program resides, and no spaces where the files are ripped. Just a note that there can also be no spaces in your DVD's title or it wont find it as a mounted disc!
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    Originally Posted by AntnyMD
    I read the first post where it mentions there can be no spaces where the program resides, and no spaces where the files are ripped. Just a note that there can also be no spaces in your DVD's title or it wont find it as a mounted disc!

    .....Well...that sucks
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    Kudos!
    This is a great Ripper. Im hoping it wont die in development like the others have. his is too cool to die.



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    So are you guys gonna work on the "No Spaces in the DVD" bug?
    That pretty much makes it a ONE STAR rating for me,
    as the majority of releases currently on my desk to
    be backed up have space in their rather long names,
    like the majority of most anime, WB, and Columbia/TriStar releases.

    If the program won't recognize a DVD because of the name,
    and you can't get the DVD copied to rename it because of
    Macrovision and CSS, then what would make this better than
    DVDBackup or Osex?



    Time to put in some work guys/gals.
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  12. Great !!!


    Thanks a lot WiseWeasel & unknown author !!!

    I live in region 2 part of the world. I was given a region 1 dvd as a gift.
    I tried to decrypt it w/ dvd backup and osex(two modes) nothing worked.

    Then, today, Hades came into the picture. It worked at the first time.

    I don't know how to thank you guys/gals.

    and the next step should be to convert it to pal w/ Mpeg2works.

    I can not thank you enough.
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  13. Awesome! The spaces in names and paths problem is quite easily solved in an Applescript Studio application. My DVD Imager project should serve as a fairly comprehensive example. Please feel free to download it and examine the code. The instructions for DVD Imager suggest not using spaces in the names, but that's just for wider compatibility with existing software and standalone DVD players. And because DVD Imager just provides a GUI for the DVD image creating capability of mkisofs, you might find that rolling it into Hades would make Hades a more complete solution. You're welcomed to do that, of course. The source is included in the download.

    http://lonestar.utsa.edu/llee/applescript/dvdimager.html
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  14. Over the past few years I have seen many a store bought DVD title with a "_" between the words. What's the big deal? I thought it was a UNIX rule and have since titled all my files in all applications that way. I have also seen many a store bought title come up in the desktop as "DVD_VIDEO". I think it matters more what is printed on the jacket or label. Some here have said that in order to play the title must match that of the original and thats bull crap also.
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    Originally Posted by jazzman
    Over the past few years I have seen many a store bought DVD title with a "_" between the words. What's the big deal? I thought it was a UNIX rule and have since titled all my files in all applications that way. I have also seen many a store bought title come up in the desktop as "DVD_VIDEO". I think it matters more what is printed on the jacket or label. Some here have said that in order to play the title must match that of the original and thats bull crap also.
    i think they are refering to the fact that some DVD have spaces in the titles, for example, My DVD . There are a number of movie studios that produce DVDs with spaces in the titles, which at this current point Hades can't handle.
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    Yes, thats exactly what I meant. "My DVD" is a different title than "My_DVD". Today I only tried "Changing Lanes" but later I will try "THE_KING_OF_QUEENS".
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    Guess I'll give this new DVD ripper a try.
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    for this title rip does it redo the ifo;s so that dvd2one can understand the folder it makes (ie since it has less than the normal amount of .vob's)???
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    Worked just fine with 8_MILE – a progress bar would be nice, though.
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    OK, we've got version 0.3.2 ready for you guys. It fixes a bug whereby if there is a space in the DVD's title, it wouldn't show up in the list. Also, if there was a space in the path to the output directory, it wouldn't work. Now, the only remaining bug is if there is a space in the path to the Hades application. You can grab the new version here:
    hades032.sit
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    Hi oh wise weasely one...

    The link is still not working


    Would like to try it out!!!
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    Originally Posted by llee782
    Awesome! The spaces in names and paths problem is quite easily solved in an Applescript Studio application. My DVD Imager project should serve as a fairly comprehensive example. Please feel free to download it and examine the code. The instructions for DVD Imager suggest not using spaces in the names, but that's just for wider compatibility with existing software and standalone DVD players. And because DVD Imager just provides a GUI for the DVD image creating capability of mkisofs, you might find that rolling it into Hades would make Hades a more complete solution. You're welcomed to do that, of course. The source is included in the download.

    http://lonestar.utsa.edu/llee/applescript/dvdimager.html
    Thanks for the tips and code, but the program is not the same as most applescript guis so your idea is already implemented, but it isnt that simple. We hope to have this licked sometime soon.

    Originally Posted by galactica
    for this title rip does it redo the ifo;s so that dvd2one can understand the folder it makes (ie since it has less than the normal amount of .vob's)???
    I'm pretty sure it does, but have not tested it yet. If someone could try this out, I'd be interested to know the outcome.

    Originally Posted by the future
    a progress bar would be nice, though.
    A progress bar is never going to happen. The program doesn't give enough feedback to create one, and to make one from scratch would take a lot of resources. This is destined to remain a terminal launching app for the foreseeable future.
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    Wise,
    getting a site not found error on the hades032.sit.

    Will try again when I get home.
    Glad you fixed the bugs.
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    Originally Posted by tnelson
    Hi oh wise weasely one...

    The link is still not working


    Would like to try it out!!!
    Oops, small capitalization bug there. Try now...
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    One thing no one has answered,
    do you still have to play the DVD in DVD Player first,
    like you have to for DVDBackup and OSex to work,
    or can you just go straight to Hades..?
    (sorry, couldn't resist that one!)
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    Originally Posted by terryj
    One thing no one has answered,
    do you still have to play the DVD in DVD Player first,
    like you have to for DVDBackup and OSex to work,
    or can you just go straight to Hades..?
    (sorry, couldn't resist that one!)
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    DVD Player is now unnecessary. You can go straight to Hades. This means that ripping DVDs from other regions is now easy.
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    The link hades032.sit is dead again.

    Now that's weird, it was dead from your post but when I clicked on the one above it worked. More Safari Voodoo?

    Now it works from both links, Whatever......
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    Try refreshing the .mac page if Safari can't connect. The link should work now, but Safari always tries its cache first.
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  29. Originally Posted by WiseWeasel
    Thanks for the tips and code, but the program is not the same as most applescript guis so your idea is already implemented, but it isnt that simple. We hope to have this licked sometime soon.
    In that case I would recommend DVD Imager as an accompanying application for Hades, because it eliminates the need for Toast, as you can use it to turn the VIDEO_TS folder produced by Hades into a DVD image that can be burned directly to disk using Disk Copy (Jaguar) or Disk Utility (Panther).
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    When ripping a title set, Hades does reauthor and create new a new .ifo. This is pretty sweet. Most times when the entire commercial backup exceeds 4.4gb I do movie-only. Using Hades saves an entire step.

    Not to suggest this should be shareware but saving time in a very efficient manner is what I pay cash for when it comes to shareware. This software is worthy already.
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