Is anyone still using DVD2One?

[rhegedus]

DVD2ONE all the way!!!

[jimmalenko]

A daily debate this one.

The GUI is a very important part of the package for mine - DVD2One does not look like it is capable of producing the same results as DVDShrink just from the GUI. Just as the quality of the end product is subjective, so is the GUI. It does not instill great confidence in the user if the GUI requires numerous manuals and guides to work out. I am biased because of my familiarity with Shrink but I guess people will continue to use and recommend products that they have had success with.

BTW, did I mention that its price is sensational also ?

[rhegedus]

WTF???

Just how difficult is it to chose what you want from DVD2ONE???

It's easy!

[jimmalenko]

I am not attacking the functionality or quality of output in any way, shape or form.

I didn't say it was hard to choose what you want, I'm saying that it looks like a dodgy home made job written in VB. In fact I reckon I've written better GUIs in VB that are more appealing to the eye.

It does not instill confidence in the user if you pay for a product with a dodgy looking GUI whereas you can download free progs with much better GUIs !

[spiderman2k1]

I use DVD2ONE also use DVDshrink CLONEDVD and IC8

[Shudder]

ddlooping: DVD2One has a shite interface and doesn't really give you any tweaking options for applying compression in different places.. like if you want to keep the entire disc, but one particular extra blows, I really don't see any option to still frame something whereas in dvdshrink I can.

So there's no previews, no compressing the hell out of menus to give more space for the movie, no enabling/disabling individual audio tracks (like on some menus but not others) etc.

It's kinda like the difference between a nice digital camera and a point and click disposable. And for some reason the disposable is a lot more expensive.

So there is a little bit more detailed reason as to why I'll probably just stick with dvdshrink

[jimmalenko]

LOL...Damn straight Shudder !

[Timmychuck]

Looks like we need a poll on this.


I did a one movie using both programs, and DVD2ONE came out the best.

DVD2ONE RULES!

[MackemX]

why is the fact one methos is 2 nanoseconds faster than another such a big factor? . It takes 2 minutes to set most tools up so is the processing time really a deciding factor?. Are people really that short of time and you don't have to watch the processing bar do you?

I guess you don't see much of DVD2One here either because they have their own private forum last I knew

hmmm, the good ol' quality issue, well that's just apples and oranges I guess which is a bit like this HERE

I don't think I'll get involved in some of the debates in this thread, I'll just read it instead

[CaseyComb]

I found that DVD Shrink 3.0.5 beta is really nice for backing up episodic discs...the deep analysis mode is really usefull...real quality results. I may end up using this from now on. I think when you want to lose audio and keep menus, DVD Shrink is the way to go. I haven't tried Version 3.1.1 yet but for what its worth I think DVD Shrink has definitely caught up with DVD2ONE as far as quality.

On a side note...strangely I find the GUI interface for DVD2ONE for the mac more pleasing and functional than the PC version

[Gurm]

That's because you're conditioned. On the Mac, cryptic minimalist interfaces with no options are the norm.

- Gurm

[ddlooping]

I did a one movie using both programs, and DVD2ONE came out the best.

I'm not sure when and how you did this test on one movie, Timmychuck, but I'd suggest you do the following.

- Matrix Reloaded.
- Movie only.
- Only main audio and subpicture streams.
- DVD2one any configuration you think is best.
- DVD Shrink v3.1.2 (or v3.0b5 which is the one I did my own test with), with "Still-pictures" applied to the end-credits, and the trailer to the sequel cropped.
(if you don't know how to do this I'd suggest you view some of the guides at DVDShrink.info).

One scene you might want to compare the two backups with:
After the opening fight scene with Trinity, when she makes her first phone call and the image gets all "Matrix-like".
If your equipment is not up-to it, try playing it in slow-mo.

[nitram]

I got more replys to this post than I thought I would. However, it doesn't suprise me that it has turned into a Shrink post since 99% of the posts here do.

I am not saying that this is a bad thing but there are other programs out there that do a comparable job. (OK they are not free) but I still think that people should give DVD2one a go if they want good results with a stable piece of software that doesn't require bug fixes every other day.

Regards

[glenrey]

DVD Decrypter--DVD2One---CopytoDVD. Works for me.

[Shannafey]

I love DVD2One. It is the first program I used, and I found that I loved it, but for some strange reason, it won't work with the movies I make through my capture card, so I find myself using DVDShrink for that, and I use version 2.3, since the newer one was hanging up on me. It's good to have a lot of tools at your disposal!!

[spiderman2k1]

"Shannafey" Thats fuuny on my capture card dvdshrink does not like my file's> I have Dazzle 2 and ATI AIW. I did a test with bitrate as high as 9515600 in CBR mode I found CLONEDVD was the best if you need it done fast. IC8 also very good just have to wait longer. DVD2ONE seem's fine with transcoding my file only as high as 8000000 when pushed to 9515600 DVD2ONE would see block's all over the screen. With 9515600 CBR Dazzle 2 seem's fine when transcode down.

Do not get me wrong I love DVD2ONE but for this stuff I think CLONEDVD is better at. But I do use DVD2ONE alot more then CLONEDVD when backing up DVD's

[JHMac]

I have been using DVD2one since it came out, at that time I was doing the big 3 method which took forever and when DVD2one came out it took 45 mins. Now there are a bunch of programs that do the same thing. I really like DVD20ne and DVDShrink and each one has its place in the DVD transcoding world. I use DVD2one when I only want to rip movie only from disk and and shrink for most others. I prefer DVD2one for joining 2 sided dvds, (love the seemless join mode) and Shrink for all episode disk. They are both awesome programs but DVD2one has a very simple GUI that needs updating. The one thing that bugs me the most is dvd2one always opens in the left top corner, the flash screen is in the center then the program jumps to the left corner. Pisses me off. I requested it to open centered or save it's last location and the dvd2one team said NO they like it just like it is. Any bugs you find are always blamed on some other software but theirs. Shitty customer relations and all of that for only $45 bucks. My favorite and always will be is DVDShrink... Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. Gotta go Shrink CSI 2nd season, cya

[spiderman2k1]

I requested it to open centered or save it's last location and the dvd2one team said NO they like it just like it is.

This just show how a company is full of it self. If some ask for some thing very small like that whats the big deal. The customer is always right. People have ask DVD2ONE to send email when there is a new update. They wont do that. DVD2ONE is very good but they need to grow up and stop acting like kid's.

[Shudder]

Wow, they treat their paying customers like that? Guess if things get to the point where I'd pay for backup software, I'd probably go the nero or clonedvd route.. No real incentive to give a company money if they don't even respect your input, let alone implement it.

[ddlooping]

Wow, they treat their paying customers like that?

Check for yourself, Shudder.

http://www.dvd2one.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=136

[Timster]

I've been using DVD2one ever since I bought my burner 2 months ago. I have tried every transcoder out there and I always come back to DVD2one. Why? It's super easy and super fast and the quality beats all others. DVD2one is 3 times faster than all other transcoders I've tried. I use DVD43 along with DVD2one and transcoding and ripping a movie never takes longer than 20 minutes and I'm always super satisfied with the quality. Why use anything else? Oh, and did I mention it does captions too.

[jimmalenko]

Thats great Timster. All that matters is if it works for you.

[Shudder]

Damn.. people want honest to goodness features, and the author's basically saying they're not important.

I'm not a big fan of CloneDVD yet or anything, but I see the author (and saw him back in clonecd days) really taking people's opinions and doing something with them. I wasn't around in any early development of DVDshrink, but I'm sure the same was done.

Guess I'll save my money for a company that has features its customers want, not what it's authors want

[spiderman2k1]

Thing DVD2ONE is to stupit to add one feature make a full disc region free DVDSHRINK does this and it free. I back up firefly and infoedit made it region but buggy dvdshrink made it region free with no problem's. Some DVD have 4.3 and 16.9 on the disc cloneDVD tell you what one to transcode. With DVD2one it's a 50 50 shot trying to transcode the 16.9 some time you get it and sometime you do not get it. Also DVD shrink does this and it's free

[mazinz]

i still use dvd2one and i have always found it to get better quality then dvd shrink (yes even the latest one with deep analysis on). but thats my opinion.

One thing about dvdshrink that people rave about is that option to lower the quality levels of certain content on the disc, which is fine. But essentially dvd2one is doing the same exact shrinking in the same spots in order to fit the disc to one. I do understand in some cases were the disc is over by not much, shrinking the extras drastically so the movie itself will not be really touched. But after many comparisons i have done, in the end dvd2one still does the same shrink methods in the same spots that dvdshrink gives you the option of doing ( more or less when using dvdshrinks automatic feature). Also i noticed that after shrinking, dvdshrink makes the film more of a constant bitrate and that would make it take up more room. Whereas dvd2one does give the variable option so you can get better quality, with lesser the size, and lesser amount taken away from the extras

[ddlooping]

To all of you saying DVD2One gives better results than DVD Shrink, do me and yourself a favor and do the following test (posted above).

- Matrix Reloaded.
- Movie only.
- Only main audio and subpicture streams.
- DVD2one any configuration you think is best.
- DVD Shrink v3.1.2 (or v3.0b5 which is the one I did my own test with), with "Still-pictures" applied to the end-credits, and the trailer to the sequel cropped.
(if you don't know how to do this I'd suggest you view some of the guides at DVDShrink.info).

One scene you might want to compare the two backups with:
After the opening Trinity fight scene (Neo's dream), when she makes her first phone call and the image gets all "Matrix-like".
If your equipment is not up-to it, try playing it in slow-mo.

[Shudder]

mazinz: But DVD2ONE still does "retarded" ripping IMO.

I have some movies where I wanted to keep the extras and the menu.. But, the damn menus had so much music that they were like 600 megs. Soo, I eliminated that problem by taking out the music from the menu but keeping everything else. Movie was compressed to a very acceptible level and nothing was lost. Of course I compressed to max the extras and lt the movie expand a bit, but it's little things like that that make using DVD2ONE a pain and pointless. If I wanted extras I'd have to keep 600 megs of worthless menu music (unless I'm missing some feature in DVD2ONE's feature-rich interface). Not acceptible to me.

[malcolm grant]

i got the latest "green" version of DVD2ONE and i use it mainly for joining 2 or 3 movies together. I then apply the joined movies into tmpeg dvd author and create menus. The results are superb.
regards
Malcs

[nitram]

Even though not many posts in this forum about DVD2one it seems that there is still a fair few people using it and very pleased with the results.

[mazinz]

Hey Shudder
I totally agree with you on the fact that dvdshrink has a lot of options and in some cases it comes through fine (like yours)

Hey ddlooping
i have seen that post a while back, and it may do a better job on the
matrix but for a few other films i have tried both on (such as robocop criterion, Convoy(region 2), gunmanm, and quite a few others) dvd2one still gave better results