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  1. This is the first time that I am trying to burn to a VCD.
    I have followed the information on this forum, which has been a HUGE help for a complete novice like me.
    I converted my avi file to MPEG-1 using TMPGEnc. I also downloaded VirtualDub, but have forgotton what that was for (back to reading for me!) .

    I want to burn using Nero 6, and have followed instructions that were posted on this forum. However it says my disc is not big enough. I'm using 700MB. I have noticed after converting my 700MB avi file to MPEG-1 it is now 1,573,296KB

    So what do I do now? I have read about making 2 discs, but I wouldn't have a clue how to go about it.

    Can I some how (really easily) compress it back to something that will fit on a 700MB CD?
    Because I am still learning all the different terms, I need some easy to follow step by step instructions.
    I have tried to search for the answers, but no luck for VCD.

    Thanks for any help you may have.
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  2. How long is the runnning time on the AVI ? You should get around 80mins on on a 700mb CDR.


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  3. In Avi file it says 2hr 34min, so I would need to compress or split to fit on disc. Oh, and I see even though the mpeg-1 file looks a lot bigger, it still has the same play time also. So what is the best to get it on VCD?
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    the easy way to fix this and not lose quality would be to split the file to two discs. if you compress the file you would lower the bitrate and inso doing lower the quality. You can split the mpeg file using the merge and cut function in tmpgenc. click on file. click on mpeg tools. click on the merge and cut tab. split the file down the middle. hope this helps
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  5. If you are talking mpeg1 to VCD and if you are talking standard VCD compliancy, then you are talking 1150kbps. If you drop bitrate below this, your VCD will be non-compliant and the result will be poor (unacceptable) quality. So splitting is by far the most reasonable option.
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  6. I tried to bring up the file in TMPEGN, but it won't allow me to bring up the file I saved as an mpeg Does this mean I have to start from scratch and convert the avi again? hmmmm.
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  7. Just another question, if I had a dvd writer/burner could I just burn the current mpeg-1 file to a 4.7gb disc without needing to do anything else? I don't have a dvd burner, but just wanted to know anyway.
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    Originally Posted by tosca
    I tried to bring up the file in TMPEGN, but it won't allow me to bring up the file I saved as an mpeg Does this mean I have to start from scratch and convert the avi again? hmmmm.
    Use the mpeg Tools not the project wizard. There's a guide to editting with TMPGEnc in the Edit section over there <-<-.

    Next time you can use the source range function in TMPGEnc to encode only a portion of the movie. The last window of the project wizard tells you the final file size. 800 Mb on an 80 min CD.

    Also there's a guide to fitting a whole movie on one Cd in the Guides section. I wouldn't recommend it for anything over 100 mins though.
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    If you convert a 700mb AVI file to standard mpeg 1, it's not going to be bigger than it was. so, something is not right. Try and run the AVI file through TMPGEnc again, and select the standard VCD, using the Wizard, then see how big the file is.
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    Originally Posted by tweedledee
    If you convert a 700mb AVI file to standard mpeg 1, it's not going to be bigger than it was.
    What!? That's some bad advice.

    The actual size of the avi isn't relevant to the size of the mpeg, all that matters is the length in minutes. A standard VCD can hold 80 mins., a 700 Mb avi can be just about any length.
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    I'm willing to be corrected here,but when I put a one hour movie from my camcorder onto my hards drive, it is about 13GB. Then I convert to mpeg 1 and it's down to 700mb. How come?
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    Originally Posted by tweedledee
    I'm willing to be corrected here,but when I put a one hour movie from my camcorder onto my hards drive, it is about 13GB. Then I convert to mpeg 1 and it's down to 700mb. How come?
    Tweedledee ... you've got twice as many posts as me ... you should know the answer already.

    If you went from camcorder to harddrive ... then you've made a huge avi Type 2 or 1 DV avi video. Right ??

    Non compressed ... I might add ... and when converted to mpg ... it is compressed

    I used Canopus ADVC 50 ... firewire ... to capture Fright Nite Part 2 ... almost 2 HRs long ... size = 26 Gigs.

    If I choose ... not hard at all to render to 700 megs.
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    What I am saying is, how come a two and a half movie is only 700MB AVI? Do you think that is normal?
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    Originally Posted by tosca
    This is the first time that I am trying to burn to a VCD.
    I have followed the information on this forum, which has been a HUGE help for a complete novice like me.
    I converted my avi file to MPEG-1 using TMPGEnc. I also downloaded VirtualDub, but have forgotton what that was for (back to reading for me!) .

    I want to burn using Nero 6, and have followed instructions that were posted on this forum. However it says my disc is not big enough. I'm using 700MB. I have noticed after converting my 700MB avi file to MPEG-1 it is now 1,573,296KB

    So what do I do now? I have read about making 2 discs, but I wouldn't have a clue how to go about it.

    Can I some how (really easily) compress it back to something that will fit on a 700MB CD?
    Because I am still learning all the different terms, I need some easy to follow step by step instructions.
    I have tried to search for the answers, but no luck for VCD.

    Thanks for any help you may have.
    Another idea if you want to mess around ...

    1] Convert this avi with InterVideo WinDVD Creator 2 ... using DVD Mpg-2 compliance. Huge file will result ... 6 - 7 gigs ... perhaps larger. NTFS filing system needed ... WinXP or Windows 2000.

    2] Then put it in TMPGEnc DVD Author ... create a DVD output folder ... filled with DVD Vob files.

    3] Then ... use ... DVD2SVCD ... to convert to 2 SVCD or vcd disks. You could get adventurous and select only 1 700 MB disc ... but use CCE with 4 pass on.

    I did this accidently ... Step 3 ... I didn't choose 2 disks ... and a 90 min plus movie was created for only one 700 meg cd.

    Quality wasn't that bad ... but I deleted it ... LOL

    Of course ... lots of re-encoding here ... quality will drop !!!
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    Originally Posted by tweedledee
    What I am saying is, how come a two and a half movie is only 700MB AVI? Do you think that is normal?
    If that was a DVD movie and "if" you have a DVD Rom Reader/player [Toshiba SD-M1712 $30 bucks ... reads DVD-Ram disks too]in your computer ... then here are some more suggestions.

    FairUse is a really good program for converting a DVD movie to a Divx movie that will fit on one 700 mb CD.

    I prefer ... Fair Use .30 beta for video creation. Divx 3.11 codec needed and use auto 4 passes ... and walk away ... go to sleep ... might be done in the morning or when you get back from work ... the following day.

    And ... headac3he-0.22b for AC-3 to Wav conversion.

    Then use VirtualDub to merge wav file into the Divx movie [that FairUse .30 Beta made minus the audio] after using headac3he-0.23a to convert AC-3 file into a wav file.

    This is what I have on my computer ... and it works for me when I'm creating Divx videos from DVDs. Oh yeah ... FairUse .30 only converts DVDs with AC-3 audio. LPCM audio wont get it.

    To solve that problem ... heh ... heh ... play DVD and record it with a DVD Recorder ... that has AC-3 audio ... I've done it.
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