Dual layer burner this quarter from sony

[coyote]

Sony announced at the ces expo that they will ship dual layer burners this quarter. I read the announcement on the cnn web site today. Here is a link to the article

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/01/08/bus2.ptech.gadgets.ces/index.html

Here's the quick blurb about it:

Sony Double-Layer DVD
Sound bite: Hot off the presses, the first of the double-layer DVD drives and discs will ship this quarter. Sony, historically a flagship in digital media storage, will be doing a first-look demo.

Real-world business app: With nearly twice the capacity of standard discs, or about 8.5GB each, double-layer DVDs will no doubt be instantly christened the non plus ultra of digital storage for entertainment-media types. www.sony.com

[Faustus]

Wow thats a little sooner then expetected. I can't wait.

[danzig234]

hope that pioneer get there out real soon too l am in the market to get a new dvd burner l not decide yet what to get dual layer or the other dual one

[troyvcd1]

I hope there are some good firmware writers out there so I can flash my A06 to write on dual layer disks.

[curryman]

think you got problems now with skipping and cheap media:
wait till the laser has to read two layers that have been burned instead of pressed

[Byronleehk]

I have a stupid question, do dual layer DVDs have 2 different formats too? -Rs & +Rs?

[Baldrick]

I have a stupid question, do dual layer DVDs have 2 different formats too? -Rs & +Rs?

yep.

[elkfir]

Hey, I successfully made the transition from VCD to DVDR, can't I relax now?

I'm getting old, I can't keep up with this non-stop march of technology

[watchmaker]

I have a stupid question, do dual layer DVDs have 2 different formats too? -Rs & +Rs?

yep.

Given the way things have been going, I half-way expect one layer to be +R and the other -R.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Hey, I successfully made the transition from VCD to DVDR, can't I relax now?

I'm getting old, I can't keep up with this non-stop march of technology

I agree,I say bring back the 5.25" floppy.

BTW..will we have to buy new burn software for DL or will the ones we have be updated?

[SaSi]

Hey, I successfully made the transition from VCD to DVDR, can't I relax now?

I'm getting old, I can't keep up with this non-stop march of technology

I agree,I say bring back the 5.25" floppy.

BTW..will we have to buy new burn software for DL or will the ones we have be updated?

Of course Nero will be updated to support the new technology. Remember the days of Nero v.5.4.9.24 when the program had forgotten know how to record a DVD?

So, when these become a reality, what are we going to be shrinking then?

I anticipate questions like:

How to fit 4 movies on a DVDR?
How to merge two episode disks on a single DVDR?
How can I unshrink my backups to fit on a DL DVDR?

[BJ_M]

everyone will have to learn layer breaks , which are done in authoring - not burning ...

[adam]

Yeah I imagine that at least at the onset it will require complete reauthoring to back up a DVD to DL DVDr because doesn't the data have to be equal on both layers? I doubt most commercial DVDs are like this, so you'd have to make adjustments. I honestly won't suprised at all if in the future it is as simple as making an image and then burning it. I always said dual layer DVDs would never happen, and now they not only have them, but they have the capability to upgrade some singler layer burners to this technology via firmware. So at this point nothing is going to suprise me anymore. We are so spoiled now.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Here's a glimpse of Nero 7 which will support DL:

[Memo_182]

I hope there are some good firmware writers out there so I can flash my A06 to write on dual layer disks.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does that mean if you have any burner with flashable firmware, you'll be able to update it cuz I have a Toshiba DVDRW and I know I can flash the firmware and I really don't feel like buying a new burner unless I have to.

[elkfir]

Here's a glimpse of Nero 7 which will support DL

I could really do without that last option, it will only mess me up further

[sublimelax]

I hope there are some good firmware writers out there so I can flash my A06 to write on dual layer disks.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does that mean if you have any burner with flashable firmware, you'll be able to update it cuz I have a Toshiba DVDRW and I know I can flash the firmware and I really don't feel like buying a new burner unless I have to.

No one really knows yet. Pioneer demonstrated dual-layer burning at CES on a A06 with upgraded firmware, so technically it is possible. Whether or not other drives are capable is still unknown.

[MachineMan]

Will Dual layer DVD+/-R media work with current stand alone DVD players?

[vcdforme]

Sony huh? I wooooooonder if it will have some sort of anti-copy
mechanism??? Screw em! I think the chinese are gonna crash the
whole friggin' party with their EVD. God bless em'.

[jam007]

Make a coaster?! Looks like a photoshop hack to me.

>>JAM<<

[NightWing]

I though the Make a coaster was an automatic not turn of feature?

[word]

Now i wish i didn't buy the 100 dollar dvd burner
If you can just flash your firmwire that would be tight.

[MOVIEGEEK]

I though the Make a coaster was an automatic not turn of feature?

That's the beauty of Nero 7*,they give you the option now.
I wouldn't buy it yet Nero has to release 20 updates before it will stable.


*-there is no such software

[MrMungus]

Here's a glimpse of Nero 7 which will support DL:

Awesome. Thanks for the laugh...except "Make a coaster" should be un-un-clickable.

[NightWing]

The beta I saw is set up to recheck as soon as you check it off.

[DarkGamer]

Do you know if there will be a firmware to burn dual layer or a firmaware to burn at 8x for the Pioneer A06 like Sony just did with their 4x burner?

[MikieV]

edit...

I anticipate questions like:

How to fit 4 movies on a DVDR?
How to merge two episode disks on a single DVDR?
How can I unshrink my backups to fit on a DL DVDR?

That one will definately need a sticky!!

Software companies will make a mint selling DVDunSHRINK.

Mike

[jaxxboss]

Do you know if there will be a firmware to burn dual layer or a firmaware to burn at 8x for the Pioneer A06 like Sony just did with their 4x burner?

Pioneer did
NOT use just a firmware update on their 106. read this thread: https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=204071&highlight=pioneer+lied

Everyone needs to just slow down on this and wait for some other guy to buy one. I'm sure a lot of us are gonna do that. LOL

[Ausar]

Hey, i hope this doesn't sound like i'm jumping the gun a little, but I have a Plextor PX-708UF DVD +-R burner. WIll a firmware update from Plextor allow me to burn on DL DVDs with my current burner? Or will I have to fork over the duckets and buy a new one?

[tsantsa]

So one thing I haven't heard about the dualies is what will their burn rates be? 1x 2x?

Ok, I just saw on the linked post from above that it's 1x...is this at the same data rate that current dvd burners use? If so, that translates to about 1.5 hours to 2 for a full 8g burn, correct? ug, i think I'll wait until at least 4x before I jump in!