Ulead Video Studio 7 - Changing BitRate

[chiknhead]

I have a 2 hour .avi file I captured from VHS.
When I try to put it on to DVD with Video Studio 7 I dont have enough room. So I went under Movie Maker settings in Video Studio and chanded the NTSC DVD bit rate to 4000 (it was 6000) and still the same thing. I assume thats the setting for encoding?? No matter I change that bitrate too it still says (6.4 gig). Am I looking in the wrong place here?

Thanks

[nasdravi]

save as dvd (choose the dvd template from the "share" pull down menu in video studio 7) and let video studio do the rendering. It'll create a .mpg file which is dvd compatible. Feed this file to Tmpeg DVD Author and it'll create the .vob files. If the size is bigger than 4.3 GB then use dvd shrink to compress.
If you are short in hd space, try to capture directly to mpg2 (use the dvd template in capture options in Video Studio)
good luck!

[chiknhead]

Thanks for the info.... It appears there is a bug in the program? It says it wil not fit on DVD (6.4 gig required, this is after changing to 4000 bitrate per the bitrate calculator), but I had video studio just make an ISO image, then I loaded up nero and it burned it fine (Nero said image was 4.5 just like the bitrate calculator said it would be).

[Spicuzza]

Ulead has totally screwed up their product with version 7. Although they added some features that I really wanted like Slow Motion-Fast Motion. Also, the fact that with version 7 you can default set a transition to be inserted with every pic or clip.

If you read many of my posts in the past I am a very Pro-Ulead user but version 7 stinks. It WILL not burn anything XVCD, CVD, or even DVD without re-rendering the whole project to the exact VCD, SVCD or DVD specifications. This is a pain is the ass. I find myself creating the project with version 7 then burning it with version 6.

No, it doesn't matter If you have your project settings set exactly to your output settings IF your final project differs from the exact VCD, SVCD of DVD specification it will re-render the whole damn thing again.

Version 6 has a dialog box that pops up and says "Hey, cool Joe, your file is not to specification do you want to burn an (X) anything and proceed."

At least been that's my experience.

Long live Ulead VideoStudio 6, cause 7 sucks excepts for the couple of neat features I was glad they incorporated.

Anyway my rant has not helped your problem, I'm sorry, see if you can try VideoStudio 6 instead of 7.
I certainly WILL NOT just go buy version 8 like I did 7 until I throughly test the trial version.

I'm disappointed in Ulead and I've used VideoStudio since version 4 and every new version with the exception of version 7 was better than the previous one.

[chiknhead]

Yeah I was going to check into version 6. There are a couple other small bugs in version 7. This is the first time I have used this software, I used Ulead Movie Maker 2 before. Thanks for the confirmation, I just thought it was me kinda new to this, that was screwing something up.

[Tommyknocker]

Before thou abandon all hope, ye who useth Video Studio 7, try this:

1. Select Share Create Video File-->Custom-->Options-->General tab.

2. Select the settings you want.

3. Then select the Compression tab, then select your format (e.g. NTSC DVD), quality, etc, then save it that way.

What do you think?

[Spicuzza]

Tommyknocker, true if you select their preset tabs you won't have the re-encoded problem. If your project input and output settings are identical and match their DVD preset tab.

However, from footage from my Canon Hi-8 camcorder I prefer to capture 352 x 480 uncompressed AVI, do my editing, transitions and effects then encode, MPEG-2 352 x 480 @ 6000 kbps, PCM 48 kHz audio.

When you go to the burn utility and click through to get to the burn step the program re-encodes the damn project to their DVD specifications. You CANNOT burn anything (X) with version 7.

If I take that same file to version 6 the DVD box will be outlined with a warning message the video is not to DVD specifications and would I like to proceed anyway? I click yes and it burns it perfectly without any re-encoding. Version 7 sucks! They attempted to make it more idiot proof but less functional for experienced users.

I'm disappointed and WILL NOT buy version 8 without thoroughly checking out the trail version!!!

[chiknhead]

Tommyknocker, I tried that but it just creates the mpeg file right?

I need it to create the disc with the bitrate I want (4000), but no matter where I change it, the stupid program goes to create the disc at 6000 bitrate and you can only get 1 hr 10 minutes or so on the disc. It shouldnt be this difficult to do I wouldnt think... Try to find Studio 6 now and see if it will keep the bitrate at 4000 when in encodes...

[Tommyknocker]

Right. But has anyone noticed the Disc Template Manager on the Burn Menu?

[bottle-necked]

Ulead has totally screwed up their product with version 7.

I can't agree with you more. I've used V5, V6 & V7. I thought V5 was bad but V7 is 10 times worse. V6 will remain my favorite.

V7 is usable, and it will do almost everything V6 can do... but it's very hard to get setup properly. Once setup properly it's ok unless it decides to change the setting on you. When that happens you must reset everything from scratch again. Its done that to me almost everytime I've used it. Very sad indeed.

The original question: I don't use Uleads DVD maker, I use TMPGEnc DVD Author. The video files I edit in Ulead V7 I always produce them using 'Custom' settings because the program cannot be trusted enough to let it create by it's project settings.

If you use the "Custom" file creation menu you can get what you are wanting. And, don't let it create your DVDs, use TMPGEnc, it's alot better all around.

Good luck.

[Teshia]

Man, I can't agree with you guys at all. I've used Media Studio 5 and 6 and found them really lacking. 7 is much smoother. I've had no problems with it at all and it handles/previews AC3 and M2V now, which previous versions suprisingly did not. It also has better video creation templates already set up for DVD video and I really like the fact that it doesn't re-encode existing MPG video if you're working with MPG sources that are in the same resolution, bitrate, etc. and just multiplexes them to the audio instead - MUCH faster way of creating video. No I've had no problems whatsoever with version 7.

[avla]

<newbie>

I have the same goal: I have ulead moviestudio 7. I would like to take two hour Video8 tapes, pump them through my Sony Digital 8, and produce a two hour DVD. uLead captures to AVI, it prepare the MPEG2 file, but it says it is 7 Gig and too big to burn on the DVD.

Has anyone found a working solution?

(I'm willing to split the MPEG file into two pieces of one hour, but I can't figure that out either. Each time I try to split and save one piece, uLead wants to re-render the segment. BUT reading here, it looks like I ought to expect to put all two hours on one DVD.)

</newbie>

[chiknhead]

Here is what I am doing and it seems to work fine for me.


1. Capture the avi file.

2. Load up Video 7 and edit my movie the way I want.

3. Check the bitrate calculator for correct bitrate for the length of my movie.

4. Use Video 7 to encode (Goto Share, Custom, Option per instructions above and change the bitrate). This will give you a mpeg that is ready to go.

5. Load Ulead Movie Factory 2 and bring up the mpeg file I made. Add my menu's and chapters and burn it. (I used this because Video 7 wants to re-encode it again where Movie Factory just burns it)

Works perfectly now can put 2 hours on DVD with no problems..

[avla]

chiknhead,

Thanks for reply. Sounds like I need to bite the bullet and buy a different tool for burning than I use for authoring *sigh*. I had noticed the same thing that MovieStudio 7 wanted to reencode the mpeg files.

I will experiment, but tell me how you feel the 4000 encoding rate compares to the 8000 rate for viewing quality?

- avla

[chiknhead]

I cant tell the difference considering the source was a 10 year old VHS it wasnt a crisp picture to begin with. I did a 1 hour DVD at 6000 bitrate and I cant tell if was any better than the 2 hour DVD at 4000. It isnt worth doing all the splitting and doubling your DVD uses to stay at 6000 bitrate. (In my opinion anyway)


Good Luck

[Specialist]

Version 7.01 of Ulead VideoStudio is far superior to version 6.0 for most users.

Here is the list of *NEW* features:

http://www.ulead.com/vs/new.htm

If you wish to burn out-of-specification discs, then - no - you don't want version 7.01 of Ulead VideoStudio because the program will only burn COMPLIANT discs and - in my opinion - this is AS IT SHOULD BE.

The problem described in this thread is easy to correct in Ulead VideoStudio 7.01 FULL version.

If you have the SE version of Ulead VideoStudio, you need to upgrade for the following to work:

TommyKnocker's workflow suggestion was absolutely correct.

Click SHARE > CREATE VIDEO FILE > CUSTOM.

This will allow you to render out a DVD-ready MPEG file.

Next...

1. Click FILE > NEW PROJECT to clear the Ulead VideoStudio timeline of any clips;

2. Click SHARE > CREATE DISC;

3. Ulead VideoStudio's DVD authoring module should open;

4. Click the ADD VIDEO button;

5. After the OPEN VIDEO FILE pop-up video file pop-up menu appears, browse to the location of your file and then click the OPEN button.

6. After the file is imported, you should then click the second button in the lower left corner of the DVD authoring module interface;

7. After the PROJECT SETTINGS pop-up menu appears, click the CHANGE MPEG SETTINGS button and adjust your project settings to *match* the properties of your rendered clip;

8. Check the DO NOT CONVERT COMPLIANT FILES check box SO THAT NO RE-ENCODING OF THE SOURCE FILE WILL OCCUR.

9. Click the OK button.

Then follow the normal steps to author the disc.

This workflow should work.

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

[mnkyboy]

I created compliant DVD mpeg files with DVD2SVCD (avi to dvd) and CCE encoder. When I import these files into VideoStudio 7 (share), the disc size bar doubles each file I import! Is there a way to disable this option?

Also, I have some subtitles I would like to burn, will VS7 do this?

If not, what program is good for this, i have 3 mpeg files to fit on 1 dvdr, the files are about 1.3GB each.

[avla]

Jerry,

Can Ulead MovieStudio 7 bring in two or more clips that are already encoded to MPEG2, do a transition, then output them to DVD without re-encoding? OR is the only way to write to DVD without re-encoding to build one big MPEG file and write it?

I ask because what I'd really like is to store several hours of encoded material, then draw from it for a project. I don't want to waste time re-encoding, and AVI is too big to keep very many source files.

- avla

Reference:

5. After the OPEN VIDEO FILE pop-up video file pop-up menu appears, browse to the location of your file and then click the OPEN button.

6. After the file is imported, you should then click the second button in the lower left corner of the DVD authoring module interface;

[Specialist]

As long as one adjusts one's project settings in Ulead VideoStudio to precisely *match* the properties of one's source MPEG, there will be no re-encoding of the video.

(The audio will be re-encoded.)

This assumes the properties of the two MPEG clips that you mention have identical properties.

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

Jerry,

Can Ulead MovieStudio 7 bring in two or more clips that are already encoded to MPEG2, do a transition, then output them to DVD without re-encoding? OR is the only way to write to DVD without re-encoding to build one big MPEG file and write it?

I ask because what I'd really like is to store several hours of encoded material, then draw from it for a project. I don't want to waste time re-encoding, and AVI is too big to keep very many source files.

- avla

Reference:

5. After the OPEN VIDEO FILE pop-up video file pop-up menu appears, browse to the location of your file and then click the OPEN button.

6. After the file is imported, you should then click the second button in the lower left corner of the DVD authoring module interface;