SVCD optimization - my first time ???

[Armageddon]

Hello.

This is the first time I am working on SVCD. I'd like to fit 120 min movie onto 2 CDs. I already used Bitrate Calculator on this page so I got all the elements. All I want is Video Track and Audio at 192 kbps (no subtitles etc etc etc).

Now my source movie is Save the Last dance NTSC. I take it I don't have to Deinterlace it. Or should I?

Also there was an excellent page but it seems that it got deleted which explains on how to "adjust" the settings in TMPGENC to get the most out of encoding. It seems that the page got moved or deleted. I remember the words on the page " with these settings you'll get better quality then using standard SVCD settings in TMPGENC " (something like that).

If I am not mistaken link should be this but you'll see it doesn't come up.
http://www.geocities.com/bug2kbug/svcdguide.htm (SUPER Video CD Unveiled - In my favorites in IE).

Also the page had options like.

I'd like to spend more time and create SVCD with Subtitles
I'd like to just make SVCD.
I'd like to fit 120 mins on svcd (yaddi yaddi yadda)

It was a nice page. Does anyone know where is it's current home?

Thanks ahead.

A!

[T-rad]

the link works for me

[Hateslife]

TMPG's normal SVCD setting uses "CQ", whatever that's supposed to mean. I suggest Automatic VBR or 2-pass VBR for better quality.

BTW, you're going to lose a -lot- of quality trying to cram 60 minutes on a cd. SVCD is normally about 35-40 minutes on a CD. You see, SVCD's resolution and framerate -must- be 480x480/576 29.97/25 fps. You can drop the bitrate until it fits, but you'll get a really blurry image filled with artifacts. It will probably be worse than normal vcd.

Also, Mpeg1-layer 2 isn't nearly as good as layer 3. 224 kbps is barely cd-quality with mp2, you'll notice a significant drop in quality by moving to 192. Of course, I'm playing back on a nice stereo, most people just use computer speakers or the little tiny speakers in their TV's.

Lastly, Milleniumbug's page isn't dead; It just gets so many visitors that it shuts down all the time. The bandwidth counter resets every hour, try again in a few minutes.

Really, I don't even like that page... I would suggest http://www.doom9.org Doom9 doesn't have nearly as much general info as this place does, but it has the best guides around for almost everything.

[adam]

CQ means constant quality. It ensures good quality, as long as you set the number high, but it is extremely over generous with the bitrate which results in huge filesizes. It should only be used if your in a hurry or dont care how many cds you use.

If you want a quality encode you should always use 2-pass vbr, its also the only way to ensure that your using the maximum amount of bitrate to get your movie to fit on x number of cdrs.

I agree with Hateslife that 60 mins per disk is too much for a regular cdr. For an 80 min cdr it is acceptable in my opinion but there is still a definite quality hit.