Port opening on a router.

[slimmx]

I bought a router and now I want to open the ports for Emule. I am not sure if this is how you do it.



Emule now works fine but I don't know maybe I did something wrong and opened more then just the ports and in danger of being attacked.

[Solarjetman]

looks fine to me if those two ports are the ones you need. I do not know which ones emule uses

EDIT: do you have your IP address on your host computer set as a static address, or do you have the router to give the same IP based on MAC address for DHCP? If your host IP address changes, emule will fail to work. A more secure and robust way would be to use port triggering.

[Faustus]

looks fine to me if those two ports are the ones you need. I do not know which ones emule uses

EDIT: do you have your IP address on your host computer set as a static address, or do you have the router to give the same IP based on MAC address for DHCP? If your host IP address changes, emule will fail to work. A more secure and robust way would be to use port triggering.

Just to drive the point home, indeed make sure the address is assigned via MAC address or you'll have to go change it from time to time.

[Roundabout]

I've been using eMule for months now on those ports (those are just the suggested ports to use, so most people go with the defaults) and I configured my router the same way. Since you set those both as start and end ports (instead of a range of ports) then only those will be opened. So you are correct. BTW: my ISP blocked my 4662 port recently, so I just changed the TCP to 4682 (just a random number I chose) and I'm back in business. Actually you could use any port from 80 to 65536 IIRC, but you have to make sure you change the TCP or UDP port numbers on the eMule config screen as well as on your router. Make sure you have a high ID, and you won't have any problems. I like eMule a lot, it just took me a while to get used to all the settings and how it works, very different from Kazaa. But once it's running, you'll begin to get "credits" and download faster and faster (of course this depends also on how many sources there are for a given file).

[slimmx]

Yeah I have been using it for about 6 months now too, I like it a lot more then Kazaa cause it seems that there is a lot less junk on it. After opening those ports I now have a high id. Thanks all

[Solarjetman]

Actually you could use any port from 80 to 65536

It may be possible, but you should never use anything 1024 or less. Ports 0-1024 are the well known ports. They have very specific functions associated with them (like FTP, POP2, HTTP, HTTPS and such). So if you start using them, it may cause weird things to happen as it interferes with other programs.

It may work, may not depending on the number. Just a word of warning.

[Roundabout]

You're absolutely right, solarjetman -

In fact, I remember they warn about that very thing on the eMule support page, they only suggest using port 80 (http) to check out if you can get a high ID at all, you can test it out by setting it temporarily to 80. Of course it would probably be a bad idea to leave it there...

[slimmx]

I opened up all the ports and now I have high id but after like 10 hours it would disconnect me from Emule and say that I now have a low id. Did anyone else have that problem.

[Roundabout]

Are you using Cable Internet or DSL? I've heard DSL has more problems staying connected to eMule - something to do with PPoE connections. I'm on cable, and get good D/L speeds (see pic) and only occasionally lose the server connection. I find .S.E.D.G (spanish elite divx group) is one of the best servers to connect to, it stays on for days at a time, you might want to try this one. It's in your server list, just double click on it to connect to it. I've sometimes been connected to it for a week at a time without losing the connection.
If you have a Low ID, try a different server, I've occasionally gotten a Low ID from different servers, though I have the ports opened correctly. If that happens, I just change manually to a different server, but I've always had a high ID from SEDG and certain others. Give that a try and see what happens. Change the priority on the ones that you get High ID's from to High Priority so eMule will attempt to connect to those first.

[slimmx]

I am on a cable connection. Before I got a router I used to have great speeds. Since I got the router the speeds have been terrible. Before router I would have speeds up to 100 and now top is 5 or 6. Most of the time no downloads at all but the upload is at full.
I opened all the ports and it connects to most servers but then it would disconnect and and tell me

Connected to .S.E.D.G. (38.119.96.15:4661), sending loginrequest
12/31/2003 12:17:54 AM: WARNING .S.E.D.G. (38.119.96.15:4661) - You have a lowid. Please review your network config and/or your settings.
12/31/2003 12:17:54 AM: .S.E.D.G. (38.119.96.15:4661) appears to be full
12/31/2003 12:17:54 AM: Connecting to NNov Russian Donkey Server (217.106.18.150:4661)...
12/31/2003 12:17:55 AM: Connected to NNov Russian Donkey Server (217.106.18.150:4661), sending loginrequest
12/31/2003 12:18:09 AM: WARNING NNov Russian Donkey Server (217.106.18.150:4661) - You have a lowid. Please review your network config and/or your settings.
12/31/2003 12:18:09 AM: NNov Russian Donkey Server (217.106.18.150:4661) appears to be full
12/31/2003 12:18:09 AM: Connecting to DateAttacke.de (62.241.53.16:4242)...
12/31/2003 12:18:09 AM: Connected to DateAttacke.de (62.241.53.16:4242), sending loginrequest
12/31/2003 12:18:09 AM: WARNING DateAttacke.de (62.241.53.16:4242) - Your 1035 port is not reachable. Please review your network configuration

It says port 1035 because it used to tell me that the default port was not reachable so I thought that if I change it then maybe it will work.


I think that even though it is sometimes tells me that I have a high id, I really don't because when I look at the Statistics it shows that High QR is 0 (I think it means that no high id ppl on my waiting list)




If anyone got any thoughts please help.

[Roundabout]

O.K., did you make sure you changed the client port settings in the config screen of eMule to match what your router is set to forward?
i.e. you changed to port 1035 - so your router should be set to forward 1035 to your PC's IP address (make sure that is the correct IP address to your PC, and that you're not forwarding to the wrong IP) and then on the Preferences/Connections window on eMule change the TCP port also to 1035. Be sure to remove the old setting on the router and enter the new one in it's place. The UDP you can probably leave alone, that wouldn't cause you to have a low ID.
Make sure if you're running XP that you turn off the ICF - I made a mistake when I reformatted/reinstalled XP and left the ICF on (it's on by default) and when I tried to get eMule to get a high ID, it wouldn't. Took me a while to figure out that the ICF was on. It was blocking the eMule traffic. It's not really needed anyway, once you have the router going and configured properly.
Here's what my eMule is set to on the Settings window.


I'm sure your problem is just a matter of a setting somewhere being incorrect, because you mentioned that it worked fine before you put in the router. Your cumulative UL/DL looks pretty good, so you must have been doing fine before. Don't forget too, that it takes a few hours for your DL speed to get up to par, when eMule is first started it will start uploading at full speed right away, but it takes time for the DL speeds to pick up (but no more than a few hours, in any case). Also if your files have a lot of souces, it will DL much faster than files with few sources. I have over 100 DL's in progress at any given time, so something is constantly downloading. When I first started using eMule, I was only downloading 15 - 20 files at a time and the speeds seemed really slow. Now it reaches 100 KB/s often and as you can see, averages 40.

[slimmx]

Roundabout from what you said I got everything in order. The windows firewall is off




I changed the port settings in emule.



The only problem I could see is that I did something wrong in router settings. When I first asked if I opened the ports right on the top of this forum I had a linksys router. I used to have a problem with it, so I changed it to D Link and still same problem.

This link http://www.thedonkeynetwork.com/connection_test checks if a certain port is open or not. Sometimes when I connect to Emule it connects to any server without a problem but then discconects and tells me that the port is not reachable and I have low id. Other times when I start Emule it doesn't connect at all and tells me that port is not reachable.

It's strange but sometimes when I check if the port is open or not it tells me SUCCESS and that its open other times it tells me

timeout : timeout on ip 24.90.1.224 (6 sec)

this means, that we even did not receive a
RESET signal; maybe due to a 'stealth' firewall

I don't know what's wrong. This how I set up my router. I had to split up the page in 2 cause 50 k is max.

[slimmx]

I found help on http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1320&question=open+ports
which is official site for my router and they tell you how to open ports specifically for emule. It says to open it from 4661-4665. And it says to limit the number of connection but I don't know what connections and how?

[Solarjetman]

from your latest screenshots, you do not have the right ports. You have 1234 (TCP) and 4672 (TCP). The webpage says 4662 (TCP) an 4672 (UDP)

BTW, how did you go from a linksys to a D-link router in your screenshots?

[stiltman]

edited

[Roundabout]

I found help on http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1320&question=open+ports
which is official site for my router and they tell you how to open ports specifically for emule. It says to open it from 4661-4665. And it says to limit the number of connection but I don't know what connections and how?

I think I saw something about opening up a range of ports such as your example above, but now I don't remember the reason for it. I have only the one TCP port open (4682) and the UDP on 4672. If it works fine, then why would more ports have to be opened? I'll have to look into this more and see if I can find the page that talked about opening a port range. Until recently, I got a high ID with every server I connected to, now most of them get a high ID but some don't from time to time. As I mentioned .S.E.D.G. always works for me, but I'm starting to wonder if something changed with the servers out there that's causing Low ID sometimes if you don't have more than the one port opened. Or could it be a problem with your ISP, that they are blocking some ports periodically to try and prevent you from downloading?
I also noticed that it looks like you have the wrong protocol selected for your 4672 UDP port - in your last example it shows you're using it for TCP. You might want to change that, though I don't think that is the cause of your problems.
You can limit the number of connections on the Preferences/Connection screen like my example above: note that I have it set for 600, with limit of 50 in 5 sec. and this hasn't been a problem for me. Since you mentioned that they recommend limiting the number of connections, what do they suggest you limit it to?
Here is the LAN settings on my PC, check and make sure yours match what port is being forwarded on your router (192.168.0.100 in your case, 192.168.0.2 in my case). This is very important, if you were to forward to the wrong IP it's the same as no forwarding at all.




SJM, I think it doesn't have to be 4662 for eMule to work properly, as I mentioned earlier, I'm using 4682 now with no problems at all. As long as the port he forwards is the same as the one eMule is set to use for TCP, it should work fine, afaik.

[slimmx]

From I have been reading is that most ppl have problems with D link di-604 and emule. PPl say that the router can't handle all the connection so it locks up.

Roundabout what router do you have?

If anyone else is behind a router and get high id please tell which one.

[Roundabout]

I have a Netgear MR814v2 Wireless 802.11b router. Before that I had a Linksys BESFR41 that I returned because it kept crashing. Had no problems with the Netgear - got it for $29.99 (w/rebate) at Office Depot a few months ago, so it probably costs less now. If you get that one and need to see my config screen, I'll post it for you.

[slimmx]

I got fed up with the D link, i packed it up today and I will return it tomorrow. Since MR814 works good for you I will try it too. I will post when I will get it so you can show me your config screen. Thanks a lot I appriciate your help.

[Roundabout]

Hey, glad to help. I know how frustrating it can be when something refuses to work right. I just hope the Netgear router will fix your problem, or we'll have to try and think of something else that could possibly cause it. O.K., just let me know when you get it and we'll go from there.

[slimmx]

Roundabout I bought the router today. I will set it up in 20 minutes and be waiting for directions. Thanks

[Roundabout]

O.K., here's what mine looks like. You can use 4662 for TCP if you want. Just make sure your PC IP addy is the correct one before you enter. Check it beforehand.





Repeat the process to set up the UDP port 4672.
After finishing, just logout and close the window to save.
Let me know what happens.

[slimmx]

I set it up and Emule has been running for 2h 20mins and no low ids or messages of any kind. The speed is currently 3.1. I will wait over night and see how it goes.

I got a couple of questions.
Is the internet connection light on the router suppose to be blinking in orange color.
Also I don't have a laptop so I disabled

Wireless Access Point
Enable Wireless Access Point
Allow Broadcast of Name (SSID)

is that something I should have done.
Are there any other setting I should check for security reasons.
Thanks

[Roundabout]

I set it up and Emule has been running for 2h 20mins and no low ids or messages of any kind. The speed is currently 3.1. I will wait over night and see how it goes.

I got a couple of questions.
Is the internet connection light on the router suppose to be blinking in orange color.
Also I don't have a laptop so I disabled

Wireless Access Point
Enable Wireless Access Point
Allow Broadcast of Name (SSID)

is that something I should have done.
Are there any other setting I should check for security reasons.
Thanks

I'm glad it is at least working and you're getting a High ID. That's some progress at least! I don't know which light you're referring to, if you mean the one just to the right of the green power light, then no, mine isn't orange. It flashes constantly with the activity, but it's green, not orange. Also the Number 1 light blinks with the activity too, at the same rate as the internet light. But nothing is orange. Could it be they changed the color of the LED? I think all the lamps on mine are green, I haven't seen any other color. I don't have the owner's manual in front of me (and don't know where it is right now) - is there anything in there about the light being orange or green?
Yes, it's good that you changed the SSID and turned off everything if you aren't using the wireless right now - mine is all off too, because I don't have a wireless card for my laptop at the moment and it sits on the desk 98% of the time anyway. That was the first thing I did too, turn off the broadcast totally. The "antenna" light between the internet light and the number 1 light should be off completely, if you have disabled it properly. Beyond that there isn't much else to do.
The only other thing I did was to forward port 113-ident to a non-existent IP address due to possible problems with just doing a "stealth" on this port. Read this page and you may want to do the same thing I did (note above example in the picture of my forwarded ports). This webpage has more info about it:
http://www.grc.com/port_113.htm
An excerpt:

Stealthing port 113 on NAT routers

NAT router manufacturers certainly don't want to get the reputation that their NAT router causes connection trouble. But NAT routers have the problem that incoming IDENT requests are inherently unsolicited. As we know, NAT routers double as terrific hardware firewalls due to their natural tendency to drop all incoming unsolicited packets, thus stealthing their owner's networks. But since stealthing port 113 can "theoretically" cause connection problems (but probably never does) NAT routers usually treat port 113 specially. They deliberately return a "closed" status, actively rejecting connection attempts . . . but blowing their otherwise full-stealth cover in the process.

The good news is . . . it is possible to configure NAT routers to return them to full stealth. The trick is to use the router's own "port forwarding" configuration options to forward just port 113 into the wild blue yonder. Just tell the router to forward port 113 packets to a completely non-existent IP address, one way up at the end of your router's internal address range. The router will then NOT return a port closed status. It will simply forward the port 113 packet "nowhere" . . . and your network will be returned to full stealth status.

While you are at GRC you can do a complete port test to make sure you are secure. Do the "shields up!" test and check it out.
The speeds of eMule should increase as you are on more hours. Also if you have popular files with lots of sources it will go even faster. Also, it stands to reason that the more downloads you have going, the more speed will be used as the download concurrently. I just turn off my monitor manually at night and let the PC run 24/7. On average, I finish 4 - 6 700MB files a day. I set the upload speed to only 10 KB/s and still get maximum download speeds. Anything more than that is not needed - it just increases your HDD thrashing with no benefit to you. Are you running eMule or eMule Plus? You should run the latest version (if eMule Plus, it's v1i). You do know that when you update it, in order to keep your credits, you have to extract and replace only the EXE and not the entire program, right? If you uninstall or overwrite the old one, you'll lose all your credits and known sources. I just wanted to mention that in case you weren't aware of it.
O.K. let me know how it's going...glad it's working better now!

[slimmx]

I called netgear a couple of hours ago about the orange connection light. The representative didn't speak English very well so I couldn't fully understand what the light means. He said something about me not getting all the speed from the cable as I should be. I will call back tomorrow and speak to someone else. I never heard anything about 113 port before. I will check it out later on tonight.
I run Emule Plus v1i and also leave the computer running at nights too, but I don't get as much from it as you. What bandwidth does your isp claim you suppose to be getting. I have Road runner and it is 1500 down and I think 500 up. Is there a difference on what version of Emule Plus you running, because I read a few threads where they say that some of the Emule versions are not very good so you should stick to the one that works good for you.
It's good to know about updating, I heard something about credits but I still don't know what it is.
Rights in Emule my speed is 35. I had a slow speed for about 4 or 5 hours but now it seems it went up. I have 12 gigs downloading.

Transfer
Download
Download-Speed: 35.02 KB/s
Average Download Rate: 21.07 KB/s
Max Download Rate: 53.72 KB/s
Max Download Rate Average: 21.07 KB/s

It looks like the router works perfectly. Thanks for your help again.

[Roundabout]

I got this from the owner's manual, which will explain why yours is showing an amber light - I think if this is correct, the LED for the port your PC is on is amber, not the internet light. See below:



This is probably what's happening with yours:



The problem appears to be your firewire card/driver, not the router. It has detected that the fastest you can connect is 10 Mbps instead of 100 Mbps. Do you have a PCI firewire card, or is included on your MB? In any case, this won't affect your download speed, as you mentioned, your max d/l speed is 1500 kbps (~187.5 KBps), and this is running at 10 Mbps. It would only affect the transfer speed between your PC and any other PC in your network (I take it you are only running one PC from this router, so it wouldn't matter). If you don't have more than one PC on your LAN, this will work the same for your eMule connection. If you want, you can try to find out more info about your Mobo or F/W card and see if there's any updated driver you can use.

The connection speed here is supposed to be 3000 Kbps, but that's probably rarely attained. The biggest limiting factor is the guy on the other end of your connection, whoever you are downloading from. Most people limit the upload bandwidth to 10 - 12 KBps for the same reason I mentioned earlier. Going beyond that won't increase your d/l speed and it will increase disc activity and use more bandwidth (I'd rather not go too crazy with the uploads, more bandwidth means more attention from your ISP, they may start bitching when they see you using 10X the bandwidth of the "average" user).

I started with the v1g version of eMule Plus, which ran fine with little crashing, but when I upgraded to v1h it began to crash often. Now I'm running the newest, same as you - v1i. It's the best one so far, not even one crash in almost the month since I upgraded! They upgrade it every 2 - 3 months, so it'll be a while until it's upgraded again. Like I said, you should upgrade when v1j eventually comes out, but you have to extract the binary and update the .exe, not the entire program. That way you don't lose your credits or sources. If you want to know more later when the next version comes out, just PM me and I'll let you know what to do to upgrade it.

Meanwhile, it looks like your d/l speeds are getting pretty good, it will vary from the time of day when people are online, of course. Most people stay online 24/7 with this P2P, unlike Kazaa. Kazaa is O.K. for small files like MP3's, but eMule is better for large files like AVI's and ISO's (as you probably already know).

Did you do the test at GRC yet? That's where I learned about the port vulnerability and changed my config on the router. All other ports came up properly "stealthed" so everything is working fine.

Anyway, I'm glad your router and config is working properly now. Hopefully there won't be any other issues with it. Let me know if you need more help.

Cheers.
Roundabout

[slimmx]

Hi Roundabout

I am sorry I haven't answered to your posts but this week has been crazy for me. I don't have time to check email. I just wanted to tell you that the router works great.



Average Download Rate: 64.72 KB/s
Max Download Rate: 307.51 KB/s
Max Download Rate Average: 114.54 KB/ss

I have crazy speeds like never before.
I do have a couple of issues I will post it tomorrow, got to finish homework now.

Thanks
Slimmx

[Roundabout]

Hey slimmx,

I set up a friend of mine last night with eMule, and luckily he also happened to have purchased the Netgear router like you and I have. Worked like a charm the first time, High ID and all. He was shocked at the amount of stuff available at ed2k-it.com - I told him there were many such sites (like Sharereactor), so he's probably busy all day today downloading everything in sight. I don't use those sites, because I'm only after Russian T.V. shows and such, for my wife. I don't care about other stuff, really.
The Netgear worked perfectly and the port 1 light was green like mine, so I guess something is going on with yours. Any luck yet?
O.K. Talk to you tomorrow. Looks like your speeds are better than mine, my avg. D/L rate is about 40, and you're squeezing almost 65 out, I'm jealous!

[slimmx]

Hi Roundabout
Finally Friday, been busy all week with the finals next week.
I took a picture of my router so you can see which light is blinking yellow, it is not the one you think it is.


I didn't get a chance to call netgear yet. I will probably do it later tonight.

I also did the complete tests for open ports and configured port 113. I configured 113 same way as you, so now all my ports are stealth. It's a very good site. I was always very catious about security because I buy a lot of stuff online. With the firewall on the router do you think I need to run a firewall such as norton or zonealarm on my pc.

By the way, the router works GREAT. I have not had a problem with it.
I run emule on my second computer. I call it a server because I have an ftp server on it. It used to be

1ghz Amd
512 ddr ram
100gb hd

And Emule ran fine. I would have about 6 to 10 gigs downloading at a time. I only had that much because I read that it works best that way and speeds would be higher. But after talking to you I put to about 30gigs and speeds skyrocketed. Even though I have a limit of 160 at once my highest speed somehow went to over 300.
When I first got this router I just got a new pc from my friend

2ghz Pentium 4
256ddr pc2100
110gb hd

And for some reason Emule slowed down the pc so much, it would use 100% of cpu at all times. Even though the processor on the new pc is twice faster. I just reinstalled windows like 2 days ago and it looks like it works fine now. Before reinstalling windows I took the emule folder and copied it to the 2nd partition and after reinstalling it kept all the settings and downlaoding files, did it keep my credits?

This is how I set it up Emule




It's funny that you said that you only use Emule for Russian files. I also use it only for Russian material. I was born in Ukraine and my parents enjoy Russian programs even though we have Russian channel but nothing ever good on it except for news. I find that the best sites for Russian content is

www.zevel.ru
www.sharereactor.ru

These are some of the other ones I found

http://video.xclub.ru/download/index.shtml http://kachaem.boom.ru/film.html http://www.megafilm.tk/ http://www.komap.ru.ru/ http://netlab.e2k.ru/k// http://www.sharelita.com// http://werewolf.boom.ru/ http://good-video.com/site/index.html http://www.hot.ee/kuk/

Most of it in Russian though. I have a deal with my parents, as long as I keep supplying them with stuff they get me all the dvd media I need for myself.

[slimmx]

Oh yeah also forgot I don't know if you know it but the best servers for Russian content are

NNov Russian Donkey Server
217.106.18.150
Ada NET
195.112.128.222
Razorback
195.245.244.243