Help on DVDShrink and Audio Choices??

[MAXIMUS01CAN]

I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I couldn't really find anything much in search mode. I was wondering which audio's I can delete when backing up my DVD's. It's obvious to delete the Foreign languages, but when there's 5 different choices of Audio on the main movie that's where I get a little confused on what to delete. There are so many sometimes, AC3 2ch, AC3-6Ch etc. etc and then there's the DTS audio streams thrown in as well and sometimes 2 of each kind...... How can I know for sure what to Nuke??

Thanks in Advance,
Max

[Gazorgan]

The biggest pitfall is having just the directors comments :P

I usually keep only the English 5.1 track (if there is one, otherwise the English 2.0 track). I also keep the DTS track if there is one, but usually not.

For the US, the English tracks are always before teh foriegn (usually spanish/french for North America). The very last english tracks (when there are like 5-6 tracks) are usually the directors comments. Only my really old disks don't have all the tracks labled with the correct language.

Just open the files before you burn them. PowerDVD/WinDVD will play files instead of a disk, just change tracks and see what plays if your in doubt.

[MAXIMUS01CAN]

Gazorgan,

So what you're saying is that there's no way of telling before you actually backup and create the audio files to tell which ones you do or don't need. It would be nice to know while you're reauthorig so you can get the best quality on the video portion on your first crack as opposed to having to play the audio files after you've created them to see which ones are not necessary and then reauthoring again leaving out those audio files you've deemed not necessary.


Thanks Again,
Max

[jimmalenko]

The english ones are AC3 6-ch, AC3 2-ch and DTS. All other languages will say Polish, German etc. You can get rid of all but 1 audio stream. It is then your choice whether you go 2ch or 6ch. If you have surround sound I would go 6ch or DTS but if you only have the tv go 2ch.

[tompika]

To make it simple:
Click on Main movie and keep the first AC3-6ch English

[MackemX]

@jimmalenko, sometimes languages are not stated in the IFO's so it ain't as easy as that

I would show examples but can't be bothered

[jimmalenko]

Good stuff tompika !

[jimmalenko]

I guess it depends on the method used to backup.

I've never had a problem doing it this way.

[MackemX]

and just as Tompika has shown they can have all the same entries (English in this case) but who's to say which is which audio if you want to keep AC3 2ch?

how many languages on that DVD tompika?. Is this one of the examples I couldn't be bothered to hunt out?

[jimmalenko]

If you did AC3 6ch in the example above you wouldn't have a problem.

[MackemX]

lol, that's just one of many examples and I made a simple mistake as I should have said AC3 2ch (edited)

I've seen a few strange audio setups and if only it was as easy as that

[jimmalenko]

I guess you could demux using IFOEdit and listen to each ?

[tompika]

MackemX, the first one is the 5.1, second is DTS, the rest commentaries.

AmPie2


jim, believe MackemX, he knows lot about this stuff

[noki]

agree with MackemX...
i made a mistake of selecting the "wrong track" and in my ignorance burned the dvdr w/o playing the files first, and ended up with a beautiful video...with the director's comments only

[tompika]

agree with MackemX...
i made a mistake of selecting the "wrong track" and in my ignorance burned the dvdr w/o playing the files first, and ended up with a beautiful video...with the director's comments only

Yeah but director's commentaries are not really 5.1 audio

The problem is when there is nothing but stereo tracks

[jimmalenko]

jim, believe MackemX, he knows lot about this stuff

Its cool. we can only speak from experience.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Play the DVD with PowerDVD or WinDVD then go to Configuration/Preferences and select "Audio Languages",the order they are listed are the same as is listed in the .IFO file.As was stated if there is 6ch and 2ch listed in DVDShrink then the 6ch is the movie and the 2ch is commentary.
I prefer AC3 over DTS because all DVD players can decode AC3.

This is how I have DVDShrink setup:

[MackemX]

agree with MackemX...
i made a mistake of selecting the "wrong track" and in my ignorance burned the dvdr w/o playing the files first, and ended up with a beautiful video...with the director's comments only

I think we may have all done that

although the main movie is normally easy to determine which stream is which, identifying the extras (sometimes menu's) is not as extras are normally in AC3 2ch, even the main stream

I normally use a variant of what MOVIEGEEK has suggested but I have already ripped the DVD so therefore I can change audio on the fly. Right click in PowerDVD and select Audio Languages and then change between the audio's and see which is which. Not the best method but it stops me making any errors if I'm not 100% sure on the audio streams

I think subtitles are sometimes harder to identify, especially forced (though size helps ) but not impossible as I use the same method as Audio and just FF to a scene where I know they will be

[ddlooping]

Hi all.

MAXIMUS01CAN, if you can wait a couple of weeks, DVD Shrink v3.1 will have audio preview.

Merry Christmas and best wishes for the new year.

[DeadLamb]

Play the DVD with PowerDVD or WinDVD then go to Configuration/Preferences and select "Audio Languages"[/img]

yeah that can be the best way over all to check..

some movies also have an isolated score also, for example the move "The Cell" has that as an option.. So in shrink, two different 6 channel tracks show up. Just something to look out for...

My main problem is that I like commentary tracks a ton but of course in many films it's a trade Vs space for a film. So a few time I have gone for more compression to keep mutitrack of commentary only to find out later that the commentary I "had to have" sucks.. Whoops.

I would guess DTS is an even bigger trade off in space for many of you. My home set up can't make use of it so I drop that track out but if you want to save them it can be huge. I think the DTS track on The Jackel was well over 1 gig in size.