Nero Digital Vs. Divx

[Kingnog]

Has anyone tried the new Nero mpeg4 format (Nero Digital) that comes with Nero Recode 2? I was just wondering how it compares with Divx in terms of size vs quality

[KYUSS]

i can tell you for speed nerodigital wins hands down

[jccruit]

I have been experimenting with Nero Digital and am very impressed with the the speed and quality of output. Better than any DivX file I ever created. Encoded files look very, very good on my 17 inch computer monitor. Would very much like to see how it looks on a big screen TV. Anyone know of any manufacturers who are planning to produce Nero Digital capable standalone players?

[Kingnog]

Encoded files look very, very good on my 17 inch computer monitor.

i can tell you for speed nerodigital wins hands down

Good, thats what I was hoping

Does anyone know the comp. requirements to play a Nero Digital file? Is it lower than Divx, or higher? (probably higher..). I want to know if I will be able to play it on my older laptop and hook up a tv-out to my tv....but dont feel like installing nero right now

[wulf109]

I've tried Recode Digital MP4 and I would agree it's faster and produces better output than DIVX. It uses aac audio so most software players can't play it(no audio). Nero's Showtime plays it and so does Apple Quicktime Player.
Standalone DVD players can't play it even those that play DIVX.
Media-tek is releasing a new DVD chipset that supports MP4 so there may be standalones soon.

[dunamis]

I'm using Recode Digital MP4 and I also agree it's faster and produces better output than DIVX. Although some have said that because it uses aac audio most software players can't play it, my experience is that Windows Media Player and PowerDVD both play it very well. The Wondows Media Player says it's an unrecognized format but it still plays it beautifully. Nero's Showtime also plays it very well. The concept and execution of the software is first class. The only thing really lacking is the ability to recode directly from files rather than only from DVDs. It's still a "work in progress" therefor I believe it will be continually improved and become even better than it is right now.

[RabidDog]

Well everyone says nero is faster than divx ... which version? what encoder? what processors? How much faster ...how much smaller?? will it ONLY do aac sound or can that be changed?

[K(c)offee]

Alot faster. I did a 1.5 hour movie in ND in about 2 hours. 2 pass. Same movie took like 6 hours with Xvid and I believe Xvid is faster then Divx though I could be wrong about that have not tried the most recent version of divx.

amd 2000+ XP

The quality was very good. Though the video range selector seemed a bit off in nero. Meaning the movie started a few frames earlier then I wanted leaving part of an opening logo. Not a big issue but it bothered me. Though it could have just been user error. You can only use one type of audio acc maybe. No MP3, Ogg and so forth. Though it sounded good. Im not sure on the size of the audio stream. For both the Xvid and ND encodes I useded pretty high settings as far as compression. Only real downside of ND is its to easy and I did not have much fun tweaking the settings and so on. Hmm anyway hope this helps you some. And its really quick and you can test out the quailty yourself without wasting to much of your time. Oh yeah both movies where around 700MB and 1.5 hours long.

[RabidDog]

well a 1.5 hour movie in 2 hours(2passes) is slightly faster than divx (1.5hr movie 2 passes about 2.5 hours on an amd2600 divx 5.05) but unfortunately I would want to watch the output on my set-top not my pc ... no support yet from any Mfr, and I would like to see some tools eg virtualdub or something to multiplex your own sound. However I suppose the speed is a step in the right direction. Will test it when a trial version come out.

[K(c)offee]

There is a trial vesion. Its a fairly large download though 30+ MBs. You need to get the main nero ultra pack I think its called and another download of the Nero Vision pack. The way nero is going I half assume Nero 7 will be its own OS. With built in Dev enviroment and office software.

[ken.vs.ryu]

phillips 642 wont play nero digital?

[Abond]

Look here
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62723
So, no unless you are using mp3 audio (it is possible to be muxed in mp4) in Advanced Simple Profile (ASP)

[Hyper Shinchan]

About the software that can play the Nero Digital I think that you have to use the right codec, actually I use the Nero Digital Decoder for the video and AAC decoder for the audio, and I can play the MP4 movies with Media Player Classic, Nero ShowTime, Windows Media Player and all the other player (I don't know if Real One can play them, I'm not sure about it), anyway I prefer the Media Player Classic.
I'm going to see if it's better than DivX, the audio will be better I'm sure (AAC power ).

[mikesbytes]

What about hardware?

Is Nero Digital compatible with any of the DVD players out there? For example the DIVX DVD players ?

[celtic_druid]

You will want to look for Nero Digital certification, not DivX certification. Most players only support the avi container. Shouldn't be any issue with the actual ND video though.

Is this thread supposed to be comparing the video codecs only? Container? Audio? Combo?

[jliles]

As for standalone players, My JSI JS4127 (purchased at Sears in the US) plays the Nero digital standard encodes very nicely, including chapter support. It cannot play any other ND profile like Cinema, though.

The image is definitely very nice - in some cases significantly better than divx/xvid.

Julie

[bunginuts]

I bought a Avayon DXP-1000 that they have a firmware upgrade to play nero digital on their players. I bought mine direct from them for 69.99 on their website www.avayon.com . I have a copy of the nero digital firmware if anyone wishes to purchase the player I can send it to you, it takes a minute to install

[Kingnog]

Wow, you guys resurrected my ooooooold thread.
So now that nero 7 is out, and Recode has been updated many times, anyone know how it stacks up against divx now?

[jarjar]

Do any of the stand along players can play ND in 5.1 audio?
(digital or analog)

Thanks,
JarJar

[Cornbuds]

How does Nero Digital audio/video quality compare to the new DivX 6 engine? I don't care about time, only quality.

[toryamos]

been converting dvds to nero digital mp4 for a long while now. has now replaced autogk [to xivd/avi] as my preferred dvd to mpeg4 option. the process is incredibly fast, and the image quailty on a file size comparison basis with xvid is equal if not superior.

there WAS a guide i originally found @ doom9. do not know where it went.
i upped it to

http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=936575ab953fce4d89e6a813

recode now has an extra quality option too. love it lots.

[celtic_druid]

ND ASP is definatly fast, but I would say XviD definatly still has the lead in terms of quality. That said if you are comparing a 700MB rip where the ND has 96k aac and the XviD rip has 160k mp3, then obviously the ND rip can have a higher bitrate. No reason why you can't have XviD in an mp4 container with 96k aac audio though.

[VirtualDoobMon]

Xvid's RT profile is pretty close to the ND ASP.

[HeadHunter2003]

I use the divx when I back up my episode dvds, just so I can put a few seasons on 1 dvd, so I can watch them on my standalone...But here is a little test I run..I encoded a 1:34 video trailer. I used settings of:
1 mbps video
128 audio

Nero had a recode time of 48 seconds and a file size of 12 mb.

Using the new "turbo charged" divx 6.1 through virtual dub with the same settings I had a video file of 14mb but the encode time was 2:53..almost 3 times the encoding time than with Nero, and the Nero file when played full screen on my pc was much better quality..

I'm using an etower T-2240 with a 2.2 ghz processor. For backing up dvd's to save to my external hd's I'm going with Nero Recode 2.2

[CybermatriX]

I'd have to agree, Nero Digital is fast and output files are of good quality. I encoded a 2hr 10 min movie with 2-pass encode in just 41 min 3 sec, far more faster than it would take to encode with DivX or XviD. For now on all my DVD back-ups that I put on my laptop will be Nero Digital encoded.

[Soltaris]

celtic_druid, I agree with you wholeheartedly. XviD all the way!

It's so much more flexible. For example if you want it to be FAR more compatible than Nero Digital you can output to an AVI. If you want to save file space, have faster seek times, and have chapters and subs and all that you can output to MP4 and use AAC audio. MP4Box is a great tool for this and I wonder if people realize how easy it is to use with a frontend like Yamb.

As for picture quality XviD is so much better! There are so many AviSynth filters you can always do things like deblocking, deringing, edge enhancement, and all kinds of things Nero users could only dream about. Many of my encodes actually look better than the original. I just did Kiss of the Dragon and there's no way Nero Digital can come close to as good.

The only thing I praise Nero Digital for is that they've managed to put it all in one package and make it super easy to configure and use. It's great for people who don't want to spend a lot of time tweaking each backup.

[celtic_druid]

Kiss of the Dragon is very, very compressable from what I can remember. I think you would have trouble doing a bad rip with just about any modern codec.

[Soltaris]

Yes, it truely was very compressible. However, as is common with many DVDs, the source has some problems worth cleaning up. For example, on Kiss of the Dragon check out what a good deblocker can do for you on the intro with the Columbia logo and many other scenes.

[MOVIEGEEK]

I'm a big fan of ND,faster encoding and higher quality,only drawback is compatibility with players.

[celtic_druid]

Well there is no reason why you can't use AVISynth to prefilter and encode with recode. Also no reason why you can't remux an mp4's video to avi.