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  1. I have clip downloaded some with xvid some with divx, when I run tmpg to convert it to NTSC DVD it comes out to at least 140% of the dvd even with the source file only being 700mb. Yes it converts to mpg and uncompress it but it does me no good it it won't fit on a dvd.

    Here's what I'm doing
    Wizard - NTCS DVD - PCM Audio - source 16x9 NTSC - output full screen keep ratio. Won't fit with mpg audio either.

    I've tried manual as well.

    Here's the kicker, I swear that I converted another movie last week the same way and it worked perfectly. Only change is that I did buy the latest version of tmpg and installed it since then.

    All movies are right around 1:40mins.
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    Hmmmm, interesting but wrong.

    Your source isn't 16x9 NTSC, no AVI is. AVI's are 1:1 VGA always. They are usually progressive,a nd DVD's need to be interlaced.

    PCM Audio? Not practically possible on a 700 MB AVI.

    Nowhere do you mention you bitrate, and whether it's CBR/CQ/VBR. I suspect it's CBR at 8000 and that is good for an hour of video. This is the problems with wizards, you skip over steps you shouldn't.

    Basically you need to use MPEG audio and set you bitrate lower. You can play with it and it will show you how big the video will be, but don't forget to allow for the audio. Use a good bitrate calculator and you will be much happier.

    Try skipping the wizard, and choosing the DVD template, you will be much happier!
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  3. If I don't use the wizard there's no way to find out the size of the output file correct? If there's a way to know please tell me.

    So I tried with the wizad

    DVD, CBR Audio MPG, 1:1 VGA, Video Movie, full screen with ratio output. It sets a LOW 2000 bitrate 384k for audio and the size is going to be 6.4gigs.
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    Originally Posted by Calzonie
    If I don't use the wizard there's no way to find out the size of the output file correct?
    not exactly ... even though it is probably the Wizard's most useful feature.

    Originally Posted by Calzonie
    If there's a way to know please tell me.
    The best way to determine output file size is to use Rui del-*****'s Calculator
    http://dvd-hq.info/Calculator.html

    Just type in the length in minutes of your Xvid movie & select NTSC or PAL (use GSpot) and the Calculator will tell you the correct bitrate settings to fill up an entire DVD (or any desired output size).

    Using the Calculator, you can also pre-determine the output file size if you opt for AC3 audio instead of uncompressed PCM (wave). Using AC3 audio will allow more space on your disc for video content.

    In addition, it's best to use TMPGEnc to create an Elementary video stream only (ie. select ES Video only) and then introduce the audio later during the authoring process with TPMGEnc DVD Author.
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  5. For some reason the wizard is WAY off in calculating the size, I stoped a encode after 1min to size things up and the file was only 18meg. 18*120mins is only 2gig or so and the wizard says the output will be like 6gig, something is way screwed up. I might have to uninstall all codecs and video apps and try reinstalling or something.

    I can't get audio to output either!

    What's weird is that I convert an avi 2 dvd a week ago with ZERO problems using the wizard in just under two hours. Now says it's going to take seven hours! One thing I did notice is the movies I'm playing with now are 25fps but I don't see why it would triple the encode time. I don't have the orginal avi from last week other wise I'd try it again believe me.
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    Originally Posted by Calzonie
    For some reason the wizard is WAY off in calculating the size.
    TMPGEnc's Wizard is very accurate.

    Originally Posted by Calzonie
    What's weird is that I convert an avi 2 dvd a week ago with ZERO problems using the wizard in just under two hours. Now says it's going to take seven hours! One thing I did notice is the movies I'm playing with now are 25fps but I don't see why it would triple the encode time.
    In your first post you said you were using the NTSC DVD wizard. Of course that will add substatially to the encode time if you're converting from a PAL source file.

    ... and you should really re-read my post above and use Rui's Guide.
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  7. I'm going to redownload the movie I did last week, maybe my whole problem is that I'm using a PAL source now and I've never down that before. I'm about 50% done DL'ing now and I'll tell you what happens when I play with this one.

    I really appreciate the help.
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    TMPGEnc does not always work properly with DivX/Xvid files due to the way the sound was originally recorded. Usually the problem is with VBR MP3 audio. This screws up the encoding process and causes the built-in bitrate calculator to go a bit "crazy" and report REALLY big filesizes.

    The solution is to extract the audio from the video file. Then you use the video for the video input and the extracted audio as the audio input. This when using TMPGEnc in WIZARD MODE.

    If the DivX/Xvid has MP3 audio you should save it to a WAV file. For creating a DVD you would want 16-bit 48k Stereo PCM WAV but for VCD or SVCD then you want 16-bit 44.1k Stereo PCM WAV

    There are several guides on this website as to how to remove or extract audio from a DivX/Xvid using a variety of programs. It can be done with VirtualDub and some WAV editing programs such as GOLDWAVE.

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    Originally Posted by Calzonie
    I'm going to redownload the movie.
    you shouldn't have to re-download the movie. If it's a PAL (25fps) movie, first try using the DVD PAL Wizard (or preferably just the DVD PAL Template in ES video only mode) and see what the projected size & "Remaining time" are.

    I agree with FulciLives that it's best to extract the audio with Goldwave (and also to maximise the volume while you're in Goldwave since most internet movie files have low sound levels) ... but after saving as a wave file, it is more efficient to convert it to AC3 and add it back during the DVD authoring process. That way TMPG is only used to create your .m2v video file and you'll have more room on the disc since your ac3 file will take up much less space than a PCM wave file.
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  10. I'm really at a complete lose now, I've redownloaded the movie I did last week and it turns out it was pal as well!!! I know for a fact that I converted this movie last week from the 24 fps divx avi to a ntsc dvd that plays in my settop box because I have it in my dirty little hands and it plays like a dream.

    I load the same movie that I did last week and it now says it will take 7gigs of space!!! There is something that has gone totally wacky and I haven't a clue what it is. Not to mention I converted this in under 2hours with my 3.2g HT laptop and not it says 7 hours for the same movie. Something that was done in the last week has really screwed the system. I'm going to reinstall all the stuff I can think of and is that doesn't work reinstall the whole os. I'm not greatest when it comes to this stuff but I know it worked in the past and something has just gone haywire.

    I'll post my results when I'm done if I haven't shot myself first.
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  11. I uninstalled all codecs and tmpg and installed just divx same thing, then tried with just xvid installed, same thing. The only thing left is that Dell did replace my mobile nvidia card with a mobile ati both had/have 32meg. That is the only difference left before reinstalling the entire OS as I converted the same darn movie last week that I'm trying now with no problems at all.
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  12. Did you take any notice of what fulcilives said, because my money would be on that being your problem.
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  13. I did, even to take the video only in es mode it says 5+ hours to encode, I'm really stumped. I DID do an entire convert from the exact same avi last week in under 2 hours. I had to ship my laptop to dell for a video problem so I took all my movie stuff off before shipping. When I got the laptop back I reinstalled everything and this e-mail thread is what's going on.

    There is no way changing a video card could cause this right?
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  14. Originally Posted by Calzonie
    I did, even to take the video only in es mode it says 5+ hours to encode
    Does the file size still seem excessive. What is the length of the movie and the bitrate you are using ?

    Originally Posted by Calzonie
    There is no way changing a video card could cause this right?
    I don't see how.
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  15. The one I using now (same as the one that worked a week ago) is 1:36 the bitrate is set at only 2000 and yes the file is exsessive as it won't even fit on a dvd at a bitrate of 2000.

    Something screwy as happened and I just can't explain it. On top the file size and the convert time the audio no longer outputs in es mode or system. What in the heck did Dell to in the 3days they had this thing?

    I see no other way then reinstalling Windows.

    Everything plays fine with audio when watching the avi if that matters.

    What a waste of two days, I'm so mad.
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    PLEASE ...

    Attempt to extract the audio to a seperate file. After you do that set AUDIO to none in VirtualDub and then select DIRECT STREAM MODE under video and resave the movie under a different filename.

    You will now have an AVI with no sound as well as a seperate WAV audio fle (assuming the original is MP3 and you are extracting it to a WAV audio file).

    Now use the wizard mode in TMPGEnc and select the new VIDEO ONLY NO SOUND AVI fle for the VIDEO INPUT and the extracted WAV AUDIO FILE as the AUDIO INPUT.

    Now see it work and stop bitching about insane things like re-installing WINDOWS etc.

    Geez just do what we tell you OK :P

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  17. ok, I did as you said and made seperate video and audio streams using virtualdub, took those and encoded to mpg using tmpg and it works. I then authored with tmpg author and wrote it to dvd with same prog. The video looks great but there is no sound at all.

    If I listen to the wav file I extracted there is sound, if I double click on the vob file there is sound when watching the video, when I put the dvd in my settop dvd player there is no sound. I'm going to go next door and little while and try to play the dvd on a different player to see what happens.

    Thanks for help, I'm moving forward finally
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    Originally Posted by Calzonie
    ok, I did as you said and made seperate video and audio streams using virtualdub, took those and encoded to mpg using tmpg and it works. I then authored with tmpg author and wrote it to dvd with same prog. The video looks great but there is no sound at all.

    If I listen to the wav file I extracted there is sound, if I double click on the vob file there is sound when watching the video, when I put the dvd in my settop dvd player there is no sound. I'm going to go next door and little while and try to play the dvd on a different player to see what happens.

    Thanks for help, I'm moving forward finally
    Probably just the settings on your stand alone DVD player. I have an old PIONEER that won't play PCM unless you select something "special" in the set-up menu but that setting isn't the "correct" setting for AC-3 or DTS so I have to switch back and forth when I use that PIONEER yet I have another DVD player that doesn't need all that internal menu setup changing as it will play a DVD with AC-3 or DTS or PCM without needing to change jack shit.

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  19. The sound works fine in another dvd player....

    So now that I sat down to watch the movie I noticed a little "shutter" every few seconds. Traced it back and it seems to have been screwed up when I saved the avi with virtualdub with no sound.

    There is what I did....

    Load the avi in virtualdub
    Under audio selected no audio
    Under video selected direct stream copy
    Under file selected save as avi

    I tried a second time with save as old format avi and it still has the shutter.

    The orginal avi has no shutter and plays fine.
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  20. I guess my 4200 RPM laptop drive won't handle virtualdub saving the new avi. If I buy a 5400 RPM drive will that work or do I have to get an external 7200?
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