Pioneer DVR-106D Slow rip speed

[n4dsl]

Hi, I just purchased a Pioneer DVR-106D burner, and I have applied the 1.07 firmware for 12x rip, but it seems that the fastest rip speed I can get is 2x. I have tried all the tips listed in this forum at:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=187112

and I have had no success, I have tried various programs and still get the same result.

I have no problems burning at 4x, this works great.

I know some are going to say buy a DVD-rom, but I really don't want to do that right now and can't understand why others get 12x rip with this drive and I can't?

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

My CD read and write speed also seems to be way below the specs also?

Any help would be appreciated.
My pc specs are under my profile

[jimmalenko]

Stop being a tightass and buy a DVD-ROM !

You will prolong your burner because you will only be using it to burn, instead of ripping as well. firmware updates are available but you risk voiding the warranty with these.

It will be quicker to backup a DVD as well.

[n4dsl]

I am not planning to do a lot of ripping, just here and there, so I don't want to buy a rom just for that.
I don't appreciate the smart ass comment, you did not answer the question, so in the future don't waste your time replying.

I am simply asking why I am not getting the 12x rip speed? What is different about my burner/setup?

A reasonable question to me!

Any replies with a answer to the question asked would be appreciated

[jimmalenko]

I did answer the question - firmware updates are the only way to take the 2X ripping restriction off. There are no legal firmware updates that do this - you will need a hacked one - and no company will validate your warranty if you screw it up by using an illegal firmware hack.

I'm afraid there is no legal fix to this problem.

P.S. Everyone here offers their advice in their own time - it is your choice whether you accept it. If you do not know any better, perhaps listening is the way to go.

[biko]

I have the same drive and the same problem. So where do I get hacked firmware updates?

[jimmalenko]

I have the Pioneer 106 as well. I have actually broken the rules of this forum by advocating warez, so I cannot tell you where to find them.

[biko]

Thats crap. I want to back up my existing DVDs without sitting there and waiting when my DVD could rip 6x faster.

These firmwares should not be considered warez.

("Thats crap" was about the companies decison to do this not your post)

[jeex]

its not really being a cheapass if you use your burner to rip.. shit, the pioneer 106d is down to $114..

yeah, you'll prolong the life of the drive slightly.. but by the time your drive craps out there will be better (and probably cheaper) burners around.. and something going out is always a good excuse to get some new & shiny.

[jimmalenko]

Its actually good marketing....

Ny limiting the speed it makes you want to go out a buy a DVD-ROM because you don't want to wait as you say....enter hackers to provide a cheaper alternative.

The cheapass comment was directed more towards that DVD-ROMs are pretty cheap. Also, I'm in Oz where the Pioneer retails for $250 AUD whereas a DVD-ROM is $60 AUD.

Each to their own but you have read my opinion.

[n4dsl]

I did answer the question - firmware updates are the only way to take the 2X ripping restriction off. There are no legal firmware updates that do this - you will need a hacked one - and no company will validate your warranty if you screw it up by using an illegal firmware hack.

I'm afraid there is no legal fix to this problem.

P.S. Everyone here offers their advice in their own time - it is your choice whether you accept it. If you do not know any better, perhaps listening is the way to go.

I guess you didn't read my orginial post?
I said that I applied the 1.07 (hacked firmware) and I still do not have 12x rip, like I should.

Sorry, but you didn't answer my question.

I agree with the other post. by the time I wear out this burner, I will want something better anyway, do you have any facts about the lifespan of a burner yet, I am sure no one has weared it out yet, just a myth.

[QuaiBoy]

I also have a 106 - it's a great BURNER. I don't care what f/w you apply, it's not going to be as fast as the Lite-On 166s. Do you value your time? If so, get a DVD-ROM drive. I've seen them for $US30 SHIPPED online. Seriously, if you're doing any backing up at all a dedicated DVDROM drive is the way to go. Plus, the 166s can read DVD-RAM discs if you ever have the need and is an excellent audio CD ripper (in excess of 35x on the disc edge).
What I'm trying to say is that it's not worth the fooling around and possibly voiding the 106's warranty for most of us when you can get kick-ass performance for $US30. Especially since you may or may not put your 106's writing performance in jeopardy by changing the f/w.

If you do go the f/w route, best of luck to you.

-Evan-

[tompika]

Especially since you may or may not put your 106's writing performance in jeopardy by changing the f/w.

>NIL:

RPC-1 (Region Free) + 2xDVD-R + 12xRip (pressed DVDs)

This is the release version of the 2x4all DVD-R
including the anti 2x Rip Speed limitation patch
The 2xDVD-R patch DOES NOT alter the write strategy
for Pioneer 2x authorized media, or any media that is burnt
at 1x or 4x

[biko]

Apperently if you read the specs on the box of the Ao6 or 106 it can read upto 8x on DVD-9 and 12x on DVD-5. I applied the firmware and i went from 2x to 4.4x. The ripping started at 2x and incrementally went up by.1 every 10 seocnds, i didnt wait around to see it go any higher, but i assume the firmware worked. So maybe your giving up on the rip after a few seoconds?

[n4dsl]

I have given it plenty of time to spin up, it took about 39min to rip a 1:40min DVD, it stayed right at 2x the whole time.

[biko]

Do a Nero speed test see what it says. Then I would try to re flash it.

[jbenj01]

I agree that the Lite-On 166S is a wonder for ripping.. But what if one already has one, in addition to 2 Pioneer burners, and would like to rip from mulitiple drives at the same time?? Wouldn't that make sense to use a fw hack?? Or would this affect rip speed/time?

And I didn't realize that a firmware hacks for these drives were considered warez.. Oh well..

[tompika]

And I didn't realize that a firmware hacks for these drives were considered warez..

They aren't...

[nufan292]

I thought I remember hearing that in ripping in ISO mode with DVD Decrypter is faster, and bypasses the 2x limitation, but it could have been all just a dream, it happens sometimes.

[jimmalenko]

Stop being a tightass and buy a DVD-ROM !

End of story.

[tompika]

n4dsl...I have applied the 1.07 firmware for 12x rip, but it seems that the fastest rip speed I can get is 2x...
...I know some are going to say buy a DVD-rom, but I really don't want to do that right now and can't understand why others get 12x rip with this drive and I can't? ...

jimmalenko Stop being a tightass and buy a DVD-ROM ...

n4dsl ...I don't appreciate the smart ass comment, you did not answer the question, so in the future don't waste your time replying.
I am simply asking why I am not getting the 12x rip speed?...

jimmalenko I did answer the question - firmware updates are the only way to take the 2X ripping restriction off

n4dsl I guess you didn't read my orginial post?
I said that I applied the 1.07 (hacked firmware) and I still do not have 12x rip, like I should

jimmalenko End of story.



Jim, I suggest you quit replying if you can't read and can't answer the question...

n4dsl, after applying >NIL's firmware I get this:

A scratchy DVD5


A DVD9



Are you sure the update was successful?
The hacked one is also region free (RPC1)
Check it with DVDInfo PRO.

[energy80s]

I have a TEAC version of the Pioneer 105 and am also stuck at the x2 ripping speed. I actually sold my DVD-ROM drive to help pay for the burner, so don't intend buying another one! As there doesn't seem to be a sensible way of doing this (I wouldn't go near firmware hacks unless my drive wasn't working to begin with!!!!!) I guess I'm stuck with x2 ripping for the forseeable future. Luckily I only rip one or two DVD's a week so its no big deal.

[jimmalenko]

It is ambitious of us to be relying on firmware hacks to modify a drive and make it act in a way not intended by the manufacturer. I guess if you wish to void your warranty and fry your drive by all means go ahead.

The beauty of this forum is free speech.

[pauln119]

To get a 12X ripping speed from a 2X limit (which I believe to be an artificially imposed limit anyway) on an otherwise terrific DVD burner......yeah, I'll take the risk. It's worth it for me, and who ever said firmware hacks are considered Warez and are illegal, so therefore use of it is criminal? Well, I suppose with the ridiculous DMCA laws, anything could be illegal. Next time I jump start a car, I'm committing a criminal act because I reverse engineered the starting procedure and bypassed the original patented/copyrighted designed starting procedure of the dead vehicle.

It is ambitious of us to be relying on firmware hacks to modify a drive and make it act in a way not intended by the manufacturer. I guess if you wish to void your warranty and fry your drive by all means go ahead.

The beauty of this forum is free speech.

[jimmalenko]

To get a 12X ripping speed from a 2X limit (which I believe to be an artificially imposed limit anyway) on an otherwise terrific DVD burner......yeah, I'll take the risk. It's worth it for me, and who ever said firmware hacks are considered Warez and are illegal, so therefore use of it is criminal?

I agree that these are fantastic burners. I don't understand why people in this thread would want to risk obliterating their prized possession with a firmware hack when they can get much better performance out of a dedicated DVD-ROM ?

Call me conservative but if the manufacturer intended it to be so, it would be.

[tompika]

Jim, stop hijacking this thread.

The original poster doesn't appreciate your comments, you are not able to answer the question this thread is about ...

I am simply asking why I am not getting the 12x rip speed?

Start your own thread "Why we shouldn't use our DVD burner for ripping" or something like that.

You made your point (about 5 times now) but thats enough...

[jimmalenko]

You are not getting the 12X rip because the firmware hack didn't work. Try a firmware hack from a different source. Could also be DMA related.

[tompika]

Try a firmware hack from a different source.

Is there an other one exist? Give us a link, Jim...

Could also be DMA related.

Try reading the original post, Jim, that was the first thing he tried.

I have tried all the tips listed in this forum at:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=187112

[jimmalenko]

Jeez I'm under the pump !

[tompika]

No hard feelings, OK

Merry Christmas

[jimmalenko]

Its funny how you can get misconstrued in one post and get caned from then on!

I just read that other post and you know what tip 6 is ?

Tip #6: If all else fails..
If none of these tips seem to work out for you and you're losing hair due to frustration, then you may want to look into the market for another DVD-ROM drive.
I recommend a LiteOn DVD-ROM drive as they've gotten great feedback from other members over here and retail at a mere $60 AUD.

Exactly what I said in the first post !