Burning problems over 2 hours

[cumbug]

Hi

First of all my hardware etc

Dvd writer Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-106D
Windows xp

Right my problem is burning compressed dvd files to 4.7gb disks, If a film is under 2 hours it will play absolutly fine on any dvd player I have, but when the film is over 2 hours long it will jump and stutter badly towards the end of the movie (usually 7-10 mins from the end)

I use many different ways to rip the dvd, from dvd decrpyter then dvd2one then burn with nero 6 (the most common way) or even dvdxcopy. I get the same problem with over 2 hour films, I wonder if it could be a dvd media problem ? I brought a bulk lot of dvds so I hope this is not the case.

Any ideas ?

Paul

[mats.hogberg]

Yes, definately sounds like a media problem, unfortunately.

/Mats

[Bodene]

I totally agree with mats.hogberg. Sounds like a classic cheapo media problem. Try some higher quality name brand media like Maxell, Ritek, TDK, or Fuji.

[pharlap]

just whack the disc back in and use nero cdspeed and run the tests you should get a sstraight line roughly at 25 degrees and i bet at about 85 percent thru it will have this huge loss of data where you will notice a large variation in the graph showing crappy burn or media

[indolikaa]

Definitely media. What media did you purchase, from where, and do you have a Media ID code you can report? We like to know these things!

[Gazorgan]

All the geeks agree: It's cheap media

[indolikaa]

Watch it, Gazorgan. 'Geek' and 'Nerd' are terms of endearment 'round here.

[cumbug]

Well, this is most strange, I aqquired 5 new verbatim disks as a test and they indeed worked with over 2 hour films (at least the first I have tried so far) so this leads me to believe the problem was disk related.

However, I just checked out the disks I brought and they come under one of the posters good media brands Ritek

http://www.stuff-for-computers.co.uk/acatalog/DVD_minus_R.html#a154

Top one is what I brought, 4 packs of 25 with 90 free cd cases, quite a bargain I thought :/

So ritek are usually good ?

[Gurm]

Yes, but they might not really be Ritek, or they might be the mythical "D grade" Riteks. Supposedly Riteks come in grades A-D or A-F, with A and B being ultra-reliable and excellent, C being mixed, and D-F being BAD.

But nobody can conclusively prove any of this.

Run DVDInfo Pro 2 (link in tools section) and see what the media and manufacturer codes for these discs are.

- Gurm

[tonyk23]

Just do a DiskSpeed test in DVDInfoPro and you should be able to see where the problem is. Even if you don't get any read errors some players may have problems with the disk if there are speed fluctuations towards the end of a disk. But for the most part skipping and freezing ate the end of the disk is usually a media issue.

[cumbug]

Media Information

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG04
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 06
2x Speed OPC power 0F
2x Write Strategy field 1 12 A8 88 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 05
4x Speed OPC power 1B
4x Write Strategy field 1 0E 10 08 09
4x Write Strategy field 2 97 06 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 21
4x Write Strategy field 4 13 A8 87 95
4x Write Strategy field 5 99 99 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1



Does that confirm your suspisions ?

thx