Philips setop recorders and black & white problem.

[Scobo]

Does anyone from the UK know if the DVDR70 (PAL) suffers from the
timer record problem (black & white recordings) when recording from
scart input ?

[hech54]

My Philips DVDR985 does not record in Black and White...it even states this in the owners manual. I hear a firmware upgrade fixed this problem...but I don't muck with firmware...especially on a machine that otherwise works perfectly...and on a machine that I initially payed almost $800 WAY back when I bought it.

[donpedro]

Little bit off topic but US version of Philips DVDR 75/17 have same issue. Timer recording through S-Video records in Black/White instead of in color.

Philips DVDR 75/17 (US) - test results

[OldeMan]

I have used a Philips DVDR75/17 for about seven months. Recorded 440+ good DVDs (mostly DVD+Rs) and ten DVD+R coasters. I blame most of the coasters on bad media.

Using Time-Warner digital cable thru EXT2 (S-video) input gives exellent audio and video results in 1,2 and 2.5 hour recording modes.

In all my timer recordings, I have experienced a B&W recording from a color show only once. I think it was a cable problem, not the DVDR75.

In Summary, I am pleased with my DVDR75.

My wish list for a future DVD recorder would include:
1. Dolby 5.1 recording capabiliy.
2. Jog/Shuttle wheel on the remote.
3. S-video passthru capability.
4. More options on DVD menu creation.
5. HD 1080i input (downconversion is ok) so it can be recorded.
6. Option of a hard drive for editing.

Regards

[donpedro]

In all my timer recordings, I have experienced a B&W recording from a color show only once. I think it was a cable problem, not the DVDR75.

Can you do me a favor and test something ?

1. Plug any source to S-Video (for example S-Video IN 1). Take of Yellow video in.

2. Instead of recording directly schedule 5min recording from IN 1.

3. Let it start recording from scheduled program and let me know if it is B/W or color after it's done.

Thanks

[Scobo]

Thanks for the replies guys but it is specifically the UK version of the DVDR70 I'm interested in.
Since most of my recordings will be from Sky digital connected via scart lead I won't buy one if this model suffers the same B/W problem people in the states are reporting.

[goldmember1]

I’ve got the R70 & record from Sky digital all the time with no colour problems.

[Scobo]

goldmember1, is your Sky box connected to the DVDR70 by scart ?

[goldmember1]

Yes & the output for Sky is set to RGB for a better picture. Not many Dvd recorders can record in RGB all Philips DVD recorders do.
:P

[donpedro]

Yes & the output for Sky is set to RGB for a better picture. Not many Dvd recorders can record in RGB all Philips DVD recorders do.
:P

What is difference between SCART RGB and SCART ? If you can still use SCART without RGB Enabled, can you try Timer Recording from it ? I am just curious.

[goldmember1]

Composite video is usually what is preset for your scart to output. The signal will have everything shared colour & sound. Problem being colours get mixed were, as RGB will separate red green & blue to give afar better picture. Your Colour & sharpness will be cleaner looking it makes a massive difference. As for timer recordings no problem.

[Burnerbum]

donpedro wrote:
Can you do me a favor and test something ?

1. Plug any source to S-Video (for example S-Video IN 1). Take of Yellow video in.

2. Instead of recording directly schedule 5min recording from IN 1.

3. Let it start recording from scheduled program and let me know if it is B/W or color after it's done.



I tired your your suggestion and the recording still came out black and white. It does the same on the EXT or CAM inputs. At first it only happen occasionally but now it seems to be on most timed recordings.

[donpedro]

I tired your your suggestion and the recording still came out black and white. It does the same on the EXT or CAM inputs. At first it only happen occasionally but now it seems to be on most timed recordings.

That test was ment to be for OldeMan He claims that he doesn't havr problem.

[OldeMan]

donpedro

I performed three timer recordings using S-video input (EXT2) on my Philips DVDR75/17 yesterday. I never use the composite (RCA yellow cable) input due to degraded quality versus the S-video.

1. a 5 minute (timer) recording on a DVD+RW in M2 recording mode. Recording was in color.

2. a 1 hour 35 minute movie (timer) recording on a DVD+R in M2 recording mode. Recording was in color.

3. a 2 hour movie (timer) on a DVD+RW in M2X (2.5 hour) recording mode. Result was in black and white. This recording overlapped (wrote over existing recordings) on the DVD+RW.

My Conclusion, there is some combination of factors wherein the DVDR75 will record a color show in black and white, but its not clear to me exactly what the factors are......
It is possible to get B&W from an S-video cable with an faulty connection.

All recordings off Time-Warner digital cable. DVDR75 on ff13k firmware. This was an early DVDR75, I have upgraded the firmware twice from the web.

Regards....

[donpedro]

Thanks. Result... there is definitely some problem.

[JimLely]

I have the same sporadic B&W problems with timer recordings coming in through ext2 with the S-Video connection. If the recording is done without using the timer, it is faihfully recorded in color. I have changed my S_video cable at least 3 times to no avail. My firmware is ff13k.

Jim

[Burnerbum]

Has anyone called Philips about this problem. I called last week, they called me back on Monday and had me perform some test timed recordings (while we were on the phone) and they turned out B/W. Philips told me this was the first they had heard about this problem. They also told me that they would look into it and call me back today. As of yet they haven't called. I think if they start getting numeous complaints about the problem we might get some action from them and hopefully a fix.

[JimLely]

I have tried composite video input rather than s-video and now have 100% success timer recording in color. Apparently the problem is with s-video (and yes, I have replaced the s-video cable).


Jim