Burning 4 to 6 hours on DVD

[Burnsey23]

What are some good DVD authoring software that will allow me to put 4 to 6 hours of video on a DVD disc? I have Pinnacle Studio 8 and Sonic MYDVD and they will not let me put more than 2 hours on a DVD no matter how much I have reduced the bitrate of the mpeg file.

[snafu099]

I have ADS usb instant dvd-2 which came bundled with it's own capwiz-capture program plus Ulead Movie Factory-2 and VideoStudio 7se.

Package allows user definged settings beyond preset ones. Know you can do 4hr, not sure of 6. My source was excellent to start and result played on tv was very good

[Burnsey23]

So do you think I could still capture my video using Pinnacle Studio 8 and then use Ulead DVD Moviefactory to put more than 4 hours on a DVD?

[bugster]

Don't know about Pinnacle Studio 8, but MyDvd converts all audio to LPCM which is uncompressed and takes up loads of space, hence limiting the playtime of the disk. Use an authoring package that will accept compressed mp2 and/or Ac3 audio. Ones to consider include TmpGenc DVD author and DVD-Lab.

[nooB1970]

This may be really basic (as my nick implies), but I have been using TMPGencDVD Author to put VCD files onto a DVD with a menu - and it doesn't turn out too bad. Just a thought.

[donpedro]

Don't know about Pinnacle Studio 8, but MyDvd converts all audio to LPCM which is uncompressed and takes up loads of space, hence limiting the playtime of the disk. Use an authoring package that will accept compressed mp2 and/or Ac3 audio. Ones to consider include TmpGenc DVD author and DVD-Lab.

Pinnacle Studion version 8 have different options how to encode audio. MPEG audio is one of them.

Burnsey23, You have to understand that there is differnece between converting and authoring.

[koic]

Well, there is one more.
It's KDVD.
But unfortunately it doesn't play on ALL DVD players

[Burnsey23]

Don't know about Pinnacle Studio 8, but MyDvd converts all audio to LPCM which is uncompressed and takes up loads of space, hence limiting the playtime of the disk. Use an authoring package that will accept compressed mp2 and/or Ac3 audio. Ones to consider include TmpGenc DVD author and DVD-Lab.

Pinnacle Studion version 8 have different options how to encode audio. MPEG audio is one of them.

Burnsey23, You have to understand that there is differnece between converting and authoring.

I'm fairly new to this. Can you tell me the differences between authoring and converting?

[Craig Tucker]

https://www.videohelp.com/glossary

[proxyx99]

I have ADS usb instant dvd-2 which came bundled with it's own capwiz-capture program plus Ulead Movie Factory-2 and VideoStudio 7se.

Package allows user definged settings beyond preset ones. Know you can do 4hr, not sure of 6. My source was excellent to start and result played on tv was very good

Sorry, off-topic but I couldn't resist. Could you please give us a better idea of quality of encoding with this device. You seem to be one of the very few in this forum who owns it. Any detail will be highly appreciated. If you have the ability to post sample pics from your caps under a separate topic that would be ideal. Let us know.

[snafu099]

I started with the ADS IDVD ver1 unint which was very unstable and captured the bideovia usb and the sound via sound card. LOT'S of sync problems but the vid was always good.

Upgraded to ADS USB-2 which captures vid and audio both via usb, thus locking them together. No more sync problems. Comes bundled with propritory capwiz (maditory install ) which only captures and does not author, ULEAD MovieFactory-2, ULEAD VideoStudio 7se and some other program which I did not install. All the software has preset cap properties but you can create "custom" setings of your choise as to biterte, resolution, vbr or cbr. The cap device uses field ordr B and I don't think you can change that. You do need to make sure all the settings are correct but I have done some "long" captures between 3-4 hr from a good source and when played back on tv, "I" can't tell the difference from orig.

For achieving dvd I am mostly useing DVD Shrink, but if re-author just the movie still will not fit on disc, I just cap the movie with IDVD-2 using settings that will fit it on disc and have been happy with results

Willing to post samples but do not know how. Only have dial-up

Not to say they have all the bugs worked out, but product is working for "me" on limited system and not much knowledge. Tech support sucks like most other Co.'s but there is a very good support forum. Since the release of the IDVD-2 unit, a majority of the post seem to be related to installing under WinXP, althrough I did a test XP install with no problems

[proxyx99]

Yes posting few pick even on a dial-up should not be an issue. All you need to do is grab couple frames with a tool like PowerDVD that was always bundled with ADS product. Saving to Jpeg (less then 50k) and posting it is all it takes. I'm sure that more guys will be interested to find out about it's performance.

[donpedro]

Yes posting few pick even on a dial-up should not be an issue. All you need to do is grab couple frames with a tool like PowerDVD that was always bundled with ADS product. Saving to Jpeg (less then 50k) and posting it is all it takes. I'm sure that more guys will be interested to find out about it's performance.

How would saving to JPEG help you to judge quality of capture ? How do you know what artifacts are due capture and what due JPEG compression ???

[proxyx99]

Thanks for your comment. Leave it to me then (I'm sure that more guys then just me will know what to do with it).

[donpedro]

Thanks for your comment. Leave it to me then (I'm sure that more guys then just me will know what to do with it).

I will... Good luck

[Burnsey23]

Okay so what DVD sofware will let me burn at least 4 hours of video on a DVD?

Pinnacle Studio 8 does not
Sonic My DVD does not

[johns0]

Use tmpgenc to make 4 hours worth of 352x480/576 dvd compliant mpg files at 2300 kbps 2pass vbr ,192kbps audio and author with tmpgenc dvd author,i use this to put 2 movies onto dvd.

[Burnsey23]

thank you

[presto]

This may be really basic (as my nick implies), but I have been using TMPGencDVD Author to put VCD files onto a DVD with a menu - and it doesn't turn out too bad. Just a thought

This is exactly what I do and the results are great. I have ATI Multimedia Center and it has filters that improve the look of the VCD video. I am able to burn 7 or even 8 hours to a DVD.

(Capture with ATI MMC , Author with Tmpgenc DVD Author, Burn with Nero)

[spectroelectro]

To cram 4 or 6 hours on a DVD you will have to use some non-standard video format. By that I mean some video format far outside the plain-vanilla DVD spec.
The DVD spec (for the umpteenth time) mandates 720 x 480 (for NTSC) with either A) only a WAV file, or B) only an AC-3 sound file; or C) WAV file + AC-3 sound file, or D) MP2 sound file + WAV file but not mp2 file alone. The minimum bitrate for a totally compatible DVD must be >= 2000 and the maximum bitrate must be <= 8000.
Within those restrictions you can't create a 4-hour or 6-hour DVD.
However, thehalf D1 format (352 x 480) is within the technically legal DVD spec, though not all DVD authoring packages allow the creation of a DVD with half-D1 content, and not all DVD players will necessarily play DVDs authored with a DVd authoring package that allows you to create such DVDs. (As I understand it the incompatibilities arise in the DVD authoring software, not the DVD players.)
DVDLab and Pegasys DVD Author will both let you author half-D1 DVDs.
Another trickier option involves authoring a DVD with SVCD content. You can easily get about 6 hours of excellent-looking SVCD content on a DVD, but you must play tricks with the headers of the files to get 'em to be recognized by the DVD authoring software. Also, a DVD full of SVCD content probably wont' play back on a lot of different DVD players. It really depends on the DVD player on this one, since DVDs full of SVCD content are *not* part of the technical DVD specs (while half D1 content is).
For one thing, SVCD audio uses 44.1 khz, very different from the 48 khz used on full D1 DVDs and half-D1 DVDs. The minimum bitrates of SVCDs are typically far below the minimum bitrate for a typical DVD and this can cause some problems depending on the DVD authoring software or DVD player.

[Craig Tucker]

DVD Specs

PAL
Video:
Up to 9.8 Mbit/sec MPEG2 or up to 1.856 MBit/sec MPEG1 video
720 x 576 pixels MPEG2
704 x 576 pixels MPEG2
352 x 576 pixels MPEG2 (Same as the CVD Standard)
352 x 288 pixels MPEG2
352 x 288 pixels MPEG1 (Same as the VCD Standard)
25 fps (frames/second)


Audio:
48000 Hz
32 - 1536 kbit/sec
Up to 8 audio tracks containing Dolby Digital, DTS, PCM(uncompressed audio), MPEG-1 Layer2. One audio track must have MPEG-1, DD or PCM Audio.


NTSC (NTSC Film)
Video:
Up to 9.8 Mbit/sec MPEG2 or up to 1.856 MBit/sec MPEG1 video
720 x 480 pixels MPEG2
704 x 480 pixels MPEG2
352 x 480 pixels MPEG2 (Same as the CVD Standard)
352 x 240 pixels MPEG2
352 x 240 pixels MPEG1 (Same as the VCD Standard)
29,97 fps (frames/second)
23,976 fps with 3:2 pulldown = 29,97 playback fps (NTSC Film, this is only supported by MPEG2 video)


Audio:
48000 Hz
32 - 1536 kbit/sec
Up to 8 audio tracks containing DD (Dolby Digital/AC3), DTS, PCM(uncompressed audio), MPEG-1 Layer2. One audio track must have DD or PCM Audio.

[rhegedus]

Do it as VCD on a DVD.

There's, a guide somewhere.............