converting PAL dvd to NTSC dvd - think avisynth problem?

[caway]

I am trying to convert a Pal DVD to NTSC dvd and followed this guide.

http://www.geocities.com/xesdeeni2001/StandardsConversion/index.html

First bit went ok, but loading the avs file into TMPGEnc I get the following error message.

Unrecognized expection! (c:nice.avs line 3)

The script is

LoadPlugin("c:\program files\AviSynth2\plugins\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\program files\AviSynth2\plugins\SmoothDeinterlacer.dll")
MPEG2Source("c:\nice\nicentsc.d2v")
SmoothDeinterlace(doublerate=true)
LanczosResize(720,480)
ChangeFPS(59.94) # or ConvertFPS(59.94)
SeparateFields()
SelectEvery(4,1,2)
Weave()
ConvertToRGB()

I've saved the above as nice.avs

But line 3 is correct, that is where my d2v file is that dvd2avi did.

What have I do wrong??? I'm using windows xp

[caway]

I fixed this myself, had wrong version off a filter

[stikman]

Hello...I noticed you fixed your problem, but I am getting the same error....I have tried putting those 2 plugins in the system32 folder in windows, and also tried putting them in the same dir as u listed (\plugins) but I keep getting the same error. Is it possible my .avs file is bad? I just made a new one in dvd2avi but same error. I really have to get this DVD converted and its proving to be most difficult, someone please help.
Thanks

[caway]

What you have to be sure off is you have the right version off the filters for the version off Avisynth you have.

Go to this webpage - http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises and its lists the versions off the filters you should use and can download them. So for example I used

AviSynth 2.5
Mpeg2dec (version used - mpeg2dec_25_dll_20030107)
SmoothDeinterlacer (version used - smoothdeinterlacer_25_dll_20030218)

I also found using an older version off DVD2AVI (version 1.76) this can be downloaded on the same page as above, see bottom off the page.

This fixed my problem and then could follow the guide on http://www.geocities.com/xesdeeni2001/StandardsConversion/index.html

Hope this helps?

[stikman]

ok, i am off to try it now...

I was doing all of it on my laptop cause I didnt want to clutter my desktop up with new apps, etc...but I was decrypting the dvd on desktop, bringin the decrypted files over from desktop....u think I am losing quality or something on the transfer, and maybe thats why my .d2v is being unrecognized?

Also, I am following the steps from VI that standards conversion webpage (the thing the guy made for step by step)http://www.geocities.com/xesdeeni2001/StandardsConversion/index.html

I am following it step by step, and as I said I will try your suggestion, but I am wondering after DVD2AVI does its thing what files should it produce, I am coming up with
1. an .ac3 file
2. another .ac3 file
3. a .dts file
4. the .d2v file

I am thinking there should be more

thanks!!

[stikman]

Ok, loaded all the apps on desktop, started from scratch basically on a new computer...
Same Frickin error in tmpgenc. "Unrecognized exception d:file\file1.AVS line 3"

I need to know what I am doing wrong.

TO get the mpeg and smoothdeinterlacer plugins installed, do I just copy/drag them to the plugin folder in programs/avisynth? I did not install the new avisynth, I used the old ones, because the plugings I have are for the old one.

BTW I loaded dvd2avi 1.77, I looked at the link u gave me and there is no 1.76....also as I said before, what files should be produced by dvd2avi when its done processing, because it looks I am only getting audio files (see above, the ac3's etc..)

AIM me at teamgtstikman please if anyone wants to help

HELP!

[stikman]

ok, having a lovely conversation with myself, but anyway, I got ahold of 1.76 from some euro site, everything works!! its "analyzing" in tmpenc now, but is it possible it says remaining time is 23 hours!!!???
let me know, anyone, thanks

[stikman]

Ok, so I let this thing run for 16 hours, when I got up this morn, it was at 82% and said "stream error" I guess it is over. Anyone know why there was an error?

It did produce a 4gb m2v file, how would I burn this to DVD anyway...in other words, IF my file would have worked properly, what would be my next step, because in that step by step instruction all it says after the tmpgenc encode is "you are ready to burn"

ANy info would be greatly appreciated.

And I just now read the forum rules about bumping a topic, i am so sorry, I will not post again.

[mazinz]

i used to get similar errors and everything was set up fine. Finally someone mentioned that i had to be using the right version of dvd2avi for it to work with avisynth (it was the 1.76 version). so when i did use that older version everything worked out fine. I was using 1.77 of dvd2avi and just could not get anything to work. So if you can try to get/use version 1.76

[ATJ]

I was able to successfully convert the contents of a PAL DVD to a NTSC .m2v file - it took 16 hours!

Now, I can't work out how to join the video and the audio back together. I have Nero 6 as well as Ulead DVD MediaFactory SE. I can't find anything in Nero that lets me join the video and audio and when I try to do it with DVD MF, I get a memory exception.

Are there other options?

[duhmez]

if you separate fields, and then weave, then you don't eed to deinterlace or any of the other madness you have in your script.

mpeg2source("movie.d2v")assumefps(23.976).separate fields.yourfavoriteresize(720x240).weave()

That's all you need. If it was interlaced before, it will still be interlaced (which is a good thing, if interlaced always keep interlaced whenever possible), Also, if it's progressive, don't bother separating fields.

the assumefps lowers framerate, the separatefieldsdoubles framerate, and weave puts it back to 23.976.

Then add pulldown to your m2v file after.

As for merging the audio and video afterwards, just add the audio in your dvd authoring program. If it is giving you error update you dvd authoring program, or, for gigles, try ifoedit to author the dvd, see if it gives errors.,. if eveyrthing gives errors, maybe your audio file is a bit wonky?

[stikman]

I followed the directions in this link http://www.geocities.com/xesdeeni2001/StandardsConversion/index.html
for PAL 2 NTSC conversion, its running fine, but what is not in that HOW TO is how to get all the converted files onto a DVD.

SO can anyone tell me how to get the files I have converted with TMPGENC onto a DVD, so I can watch this new NTSC dvd????

help

[pijetro]

You'll have to read up on authouring..Basically, put your video and audio into an authouring program, hit go, walk away for 20 minutes, come back, and voila..

Your authouring program should have created a VIDEO_TS folder, with all the .VOB's..Use this same folder to burn your DVD with Nero, or whatever your heart desires...

[stikman]

authoring it is, I will read up on it, and hopefully not have to post another stupid question, haha

thanks!

[stikman]

i am beginning to wonder if this will be a success...after 7 hours of decoding/converting the TMPGENC program says "Stream writing Error" and has ended? anyone had this problem, is there a solution?

Another thing I was wondering, while following the steps on that how to at that famous link, there are these steps;
-Load the "DVD (NTSC)" template into TMPGEnc.
-Load the "unlock" template (located in the "Extra" directory).

When you do as it says it seems when you LOAD the unlock template it overrides the DVD (NTSC) template you just loaded, is there a step missing.

Anyway, please let me know on these 2 issues, thanks group

[stikman]

Ok, my saga is over, got this thing onto a DVD, and it plays on my crappy NTSC tv dvd player....BUT, there is a couple scenes that are not smooth-I can deal with that.
But the audio is about 1/2 second behind the video....
and my menus are not interactive and i cant skip to next chapters...is there a solution for these little problems.

[pijetro]

You gotta be more specific man!!!!

Is your "crappy scenes" during fast pans?? If that's the case, then you should reverse the field order when encoding.

As far as audio goes, is it out of synch from beginning to end, or is it a gradual stretch??

What authouring program did you use to put it all together?? Before you go through the hassle of authouring, if you want, put your .m2v and .ac3 together to make an MPEG, and view it in WinDVD..https://www.videohelp.com/bbmpegedit.htm If it's in synch at that point, then it's your authouring tool that's playing tricks on you...

If you wanna go through this extra step (takes about 10 minutes), there's a guide on the left hand side using BBMpeg to merge your two streams together..

As far as menus go, you'll have to find out what software turns your crank, and start going on their forums for specific problems...

Good luck!!!

[duhmez]

One way is if it is one half second off, then reencode the video and cut one half of a second of frames of the first second. Your authroing software may support inserting the right delay too. (14 fps pal 12 and or 15 ntsc)

[stikman]

This video is a mountainbike racing video, it was sent to me in PAL format and I need NTSC to show some people...so, the scenes that have jittery playback are when the producer put like an old film effect or something, all the live motion, standard scenes are fine, the jittery-ness actually doesnt bother me, it kinda looks cool for those little scenes.

The audio is not that annoying either since most of the movie is music playing in background while watching riders race, but the interview sequences are annoying, and the audio is off the mark from the start, just a little,

I used tmpenc to author the vid, and I see I will have to "kinda" rebuild the video if I want menus, and chapter forwarding.

[duhmez]

@stickman , you need not have jerky playback. Search the guides here, and the forums, there are excellent ways to do pal>ntsc conversion the proper way without jerkiness, better quality, and fatser encoding!

You want to slow the video and audio down to 23.976 fps, then apply pulldown flags so it will add the extra frames smoothly during playback.

[pijetro]

Dumhez is correct. I've been told that it isn't correct, but it's played in every DVD player that I've thrown it at..

Rather than complicate the script, try

AviSource("c:\blabla.avi")
AssumeFps(23.976,true)
separatefields()
lanczosresize(352,240)#or(720,240)
weave()
letterbox(8,8)
resampleaudio(48000)

After that's done, encode as if were pure interlaced output. Run Pulldown.exe on that .M2V stream.

I then go to Cool Edit, and File>Extract audio from video>load the .avs. File>Save As> whatever.wav.

I load this .wav file into Besweet, to encode for .AC3. But you may wanna keep it uncompressed, or perhaps .Mp2 for all I know...

Load the .M2V and .AC3 file into authouring proggie, and it'll be gorgeous....

[spidey]

Going all the way back to the top. I must confess I only skimmed the subsequent posts -

Shouldn't the source clip be listed in the script PRIOR to the loading of the plugins ? I believe that may contribute to your issue.

[duhmez]

Going all the way back to the top. I must confess I only skimmed the subsequent posts -

Shouldn't the source clip be listed in the script PRIOR to the loading of the plugins ? I believe that may contribute to your issue.

Nope. if the plugins aren't loaded, then they won't be able to load the clip!