Memorex Media Problems? Or my drive...

[Gurm]

Yep. If I need something in a hurry I have a few 4x's sitting around that I know will burn properly. I just buy what's cheap because I can USUALLY wait a half hour for the disc with no worries.

- Gurm

[mosh]

i have a Pioneer 106 and a 104 and using nero 5.5.10.20

On The 106 I was getting fails on DvD +r's made by Fws (using CMC dye) and also on various brand of cd-r's which i thought strange.

And on the 104 i was trying 1x-4x datasafe dvd-r's and was getting power calibration error and in past i was using datawrite discs which resulted in the same error.

i tried latest nero 6.0.0.28 and have no problems whatsoever now burning the discs that i have here, i can't say about other brands but it might be worthwhile giving it a try if you haven't tried this.

[proggy]

I've got two 50-packs of Memorex DVD+R that are "RICOHJPNR01" and I have a 10-pack of individual wrap Memorex that are also "RICOHJPNR01" all from BestBuy. I got these a month ago so I don't know about todays stock. Memorex better not change there source. I love these disks! If they change to CMC, I will not hesitate to go elsewhere.

[budz]

Defense wrote:

hadn't heard that Memorex had CMC produced +R disks until now. You're the first person AFAIK who has claimed to purchase Memorex 4x +R CMC media id disks. The other hundred or so people who have posted on the media section have said their +R Memorex have a RICOH media id while the -R's have a CMC media id. My experiences have also been the same. All of my Memorex 4X +R disks which I purchased in 10 pack jewel cases all have a media id of Ricoh.

If you check other forum sites you will read that other people have reported just as I have that MEMOREX 4X DVD+R are CMC. The ones I had were 25 discs in a cake not like your 10 pack jewel case. I used DVDINFO PRO and it read CMC. Here is the link and see for yourself:
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=13792

[budz]

Gurm wrote:

This helps confirm BUDZ' contention that there are, in fact, CMC +R's from Memorex, and that they suck donkey ****.

Sorry to hear you got some of those MEMOREX. Whew glad some believed me about those MEMOREX. Perhaps the ones in the 10 pack cases are the only ones that are RICOH.


This is for noki:
On the outside of the 25 pack IMATION DVD+R it says 4X. You need to look at the spindle really closely. It says 4X in white. I noticed that the IMATION DVD+R that is in the jewel case sold in the 5 packs are 2X speed. The 25 pack I got was on sale the day after Thanksgiving from Office Depot for $52.06, buy one get one free. Not a bad deal for 50.

[budz]

Defense wrote:

hadn't heard that Memorex had CMC produced +R disks until now. You're the first person AFAIK who has claimed to purchase Memorex 4x +R CMC media id disks. The other hundred or so people who have posted on the media section have said their +R Memorex have a RICOH media id while the -R's have a CMC media id. My experiences have also been the same. All of my Memorex 4X +R disks which I purchased in 10 pack jewel cases all have a media id of Ricoh.

If you check other forum sites you will read that other people have reported just as I have that MEMOREX 4X DVD+R are CMC. The ones I had were 25 discs in a cake not like your 10 pack jewel case. I used DVDINFO PRO and it read CMC. Here is the link and see for yourself:
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=13792

[defense]

@ budz, did you read my post? Obviously not..because if you had...I didn't say it was untrue that the Memorex +R disks were CMC. I said that the majority of the people who have purchased +R disks have identified them with a RICOH media id. Now that there is a media id OF CMC with SOME not ALL but SOME Memorex +R disks..it's clear that CMC is PROBABLY..not DEFINITELY..but PROBABLY manufacturing them. Because so many people have had issues with the CMC media id disks and knowing CMC produces a lot of crappy media..i'd think they are definitely manufacturing the CMC MEMOREX disks.

I've already explained why having a media id of a specific company doesn't necessarily mean they manufactured it. This is one reason I honestly believe the Philips CMC disks are some of the best disks out there...because I'd be willing to bet there's a good chance Mitsubishi Chemical Corp is manufacturing those specific disks for CMC.

[FulciLives]

I've never bought MEMOREX DVD media ... I usually buy FUJI or MAXELL or sometimes TDK (at least if buying from a retail store).

One trick that works for those other brands that might work with MEMOREX is to check the package to see if it says MADE IN JAPAN or MADE IN TAIWAN.

The best FUJI and TDK discs seem to be the packages labeled MADE IN JAPAN. I've only ever seen MAXELL say MADE IN JAPAN but some TDK and some FUJI say MADE IN TAIWAN and I avoide those like the plague.

So ... in short ... my guess is the "good" RICOH MEMOREX discs say MADE IN JAPAN while the shit CMC discs say MADE IN TAIWAN.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[GKar]

FulciLives, all my Memorex 4x DVD+R's were all made in Taiwan, all worked, and all were Ricoh.

[sayian_leo]

Only 3 weeks ago I bought a 10+1 pack Memorex DVD+R 4x.
On the site (www.opus.nl) it said for 1 pcs. that the mediacode is RICOHJPNR01. The info of the 10 pack didn't say anything. I just assumed that it would be the same, right?

Well no it wasn't. Wel after burning, the mediacode in dvdinfopro said CMC, but the DVD played fine in PC and standalone Cyberhome adlm 528.

And on this site on DVD media people report that the Memorex with CMC mediacode works fine for most.

All seems to depend on the buner, media, software, player. And a lot of luck.

[Gurm]

The CMC discs WORK, just with limited burn speed and some extraneous error messages.

All the discs I've burnt from that spindle (which has now gone back to Best Buy) worked fine in the end. They just only burnt at 2.4x, and had errors at the end during final calibration.

- Gurm

[Ziffelpig]

Check this link, especially what Joe Ryan has to say about DVD media and write strategies
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/48307

[vtecwil]

Reading this thread got me a little nervous so I opened up one of the 25 pk spindles of Memorex 4X+R discs I got sunday . I got them at staples for 29.99 per 25 . Put one in my Sony 500AX and ran DVDInfo on it . It came back with a media code of RICOHJPNRO1 just like the several hundred others I've bought . All of these discs have come on spindles and I have never seen one with a CMC code . I have never had one of these discs fail to write or finalize . I say you got hosed Gurm , take em' back . For those that say otherwise , I have never seen a Memorex 4X+R disc with a CMC media code , all mine have say RICOHJPNRO1 .

[David K]

Vtewil, I did the same thing, having just got a 25 pack at Staples too. Thankfully it also said RICOHJPNR01. I've been stockpiling these Memorex DVD+Rs since they work great and are often on sale. I too will be majorly pissed off if they start using CMC. Although it is true that the Philips 2X CMCs did work fine for me. The Memorex Minus CMC were horrible, and made me sympathetic to all the howling that people have done over bad media.

While we're on the subject. I picked up Memorex DVD+RWs 4x speed on sale at OfficeMax and here's the code: PHILIPS 041. They burn perfectly at 4x and my standalone DVD player actually plays them.

[MysticE]

This is one reason I honestly believe the Philips CMC disks are some of the best disks out there...because I'd be willing to bet there's a good chance Mitsubishi Chemical Corp is manufacturing those specific disks for CMC.

That's just plain silly. Nobody is counterfitting CMC discs, if the Phillips read CMC that's what they are. You just lucked out and got some from a good batch from one of their various plants.

[vtecwil]

I dont think that quote has anything to do with counterfeit discs . If you arent aware of it disc manufacturers farm out work to other companys all the time . Lets just say that brand X contracts with manufacturer Y for a run of discs but manufacturer Y has a full workload . Manufacturer Y then contracts manufacturer Z to make the discs to their specs . So you end up with brand X discs with manufacturer Y's media code but were actually made by manufacturer Z .

[Gurm]

I think I'll be stopping at Staples tonight to pick up a 25-pack there. Hopefully they're better than the ones at Best Buy.

Officemax has Imation 25-packs for $19.99 after rebates, but my local store is completely out of them, if they ever had any (my local Officemax should be called Office Shmacks).

- Gurm

[MysticE]

.. If you arent aware of it disc manufacturers farm out work to other companys all the time . Lets just say that brand X contracts with manufacturer Y for a run of discs but manufacturer Y has a full workload . Manufacturer Y then contracts manufacturer Z to make the discs to their specs ...

Well I will defer to what you say, but I find it hard to believe that CMC just happens to have the exact dye that Mitsubishi uses laying around and will alter their manufacturing process. I would assume they just re-label whatever comes off their line with the proper logo.

[lordsmurf]

Memorex, 25 pack, Staples for $30, RICOHJPN 4x ... though I've not needed to use one yet, bought them an hour ago

[defense]

@MysticE...you have no clue what you are talking about, so I suggest you do some reading and attempt to learn something. I've read a few of your other posts and have almost replied to the B.S you post as if you have a clue. A couple of them i've gotten good laughs on.....as far as saying "CMC" disks are being "counterfeit" ..first of all..that wouldn't be the correct word..."phony" would be more like it..and as I said...I never said anything about phony disks. As vtecwil said..MANY media manufacturers have contractual agreements to make media for another company.

I don't think it's any conincidence that CMC makes crappy media for EVERYONE else except Philips. There is something else there. Not only have I never had a single coaster with ANY of those Philips disks...either has ANYONE else on this forum. I've read people making coasters with lower grade RITEK, OPTODISC, BEALL, VERBATIM, and TDK..but NEVER have I read about a person making a coaster with a Philips. Those Philips disks are rock soild...probably the best i've ever used..right up there with the Gold Topped Opto's....so as I said...there is something else definitely going on there..and I have about 3 good ideas...one of them being that they dont' actually manufacture those specific Philips disks at all.

As far as your last ignorant comment to vtcewil's post...CMC wouldn't just have MCC's dye lying around....because for the third time..it would be MCC manufacturing the disks for CMC...so it would be the other way around. And the chemicals would be supplied to MCC by CMC.
Since you seem to think you know so much...i'm sure you are aware that MCC and CMC are two of the manufacturers of Verbatim DVDR media. Take a look at the write side of each of those disks and you'll see the dye looks EXACTLY THE SAME! I know because I also have several of both.

BTW: I've responded to a couple of your other ingenius posts on the newbie/general discussion forum...that did nothing but confuse the posters with jibber jabber.

Do yourself a favor and before responding..make sure you know what you are talking about....either that or stick on the newbie board and confuse some of them.

[lordsmurf]

Just burned my Memorex 4x (write strat. also 4x) and worked quite well. RICOHJPN discs.

Only disappointment is the DVD+R format chokes my Cyberhome player. Did not know that. Still fine to play on Toshiba I have, so not big deal.

Gonna go buy another one tomorrow before sale ends. Might even grab 2.

[Gurm]

Yeah, I think I'm gonna stock up.

Staples is selling the Memorex RICOH 25x spindles for $29.99. Just burned a couple discs at 4x, no problems at all.

It appears to only be Best Buy that's peddling the cheap CMC crap. Luckily they gave me my money back without arguing.

- Gurm

[FulciLives]

Just burned my Memorex 4x (write strat. also 4x) and worked quite well. RICOHJPN discs.

Only disappointment is the DVD+R format chokes my Cyberhome player. Did not know that. Still fine to play on Toshiba I have, so not big deal.

Gonna go buy another one tomorrow before sale ends. Might even grab 2.

My Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 does not like DVD+R but will play DVD+RW and a few other people have reported the same thing. Go figure.

Also it has no problems with DVD-R unless done on a stand alone DVD recorder (well at least the Panasonic models). All computer burnt DVD-R discs no problem (unless I used NERO but let's not get into that shall we).

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[MysticE]

Well defense,

Not only have I never had a single coaster with ANY of those Philips disks...either has ANYONE else on this forum.

I so happy for you and your secret MCC discs. If your whole criteria of good media is based on 'coasters', so be it. But some of us demand a bit more and use other criteria to determine the best media match for our burners. But these methods may be a bit over your head (as evidenced by one of your replies to one of my posts). So keep counting your coasters.

Good bye.

[defense]

@ MsticE...boy..you'd figure you'd be smart enough to keep your cheesedoodled fingers off the keyboard and just accept the fact that you are clueless and post complete and utter B.S. Your last post made absolutely zero sense...but I guess all your other posts make no sense either so that's no surprise. Keep confusing those newbies....and like I said...TRY to read first before you post..because here...you aren't confusing anybody but yourself lil' jitterbug.

[toobusytoobroke]

I, too own a plextor px-708a and I have purchased 3 50-pack spindles of dvd+r, not -, from ecost.com, the first two spindles burned flawlessly, but the last spindle on every single disk there are glitches in the last 20 or 30 minutes, I downoaded dvdinfopro, and the media code is CMC MAG F01 ... so from what im reading this media is just crap? just a bad spindle? I just checked a disk from one of the first two spindles and this is the code that i get RICOHJPNR01 ... I have not checked all of the movies I have backed up, can I just assume that if I check the disk and I get the cmc code that the movie is going to have glitches but if it is the ricoh code then it wont?????