Pirates of the Carribean with menus no extras

[wulf109]

I used CloneDVD to backup Pirates. It allowed me to unchecked all the extras and compress only the opening menu and movie. It even eliminated those annoying promo trailers at the beginning of the disk.

[snidey]

and how did you manage this

i tried this method also and it said about CSS and that it couldnt do it

[tumbar]

You must be using AnyDVD in conjunction with CloneDVD or files must be decrypted to hard drive.

regards

[snidey]

ive already decrypted them as the movie only using DVDdecrypter - when using clone dvd it cannot read any of the files

[tumbar]

Have you tried "all files" ? I think that will help.

regards

[defense]

I personally think that's an unacceptible method to backing up that particular title. Of course, if you aren't concerned about artifacts and pixelation..then that method is good. I tested it with a +RW and CloneDVD shows a massive 49% compression. And I noticed wayy too many artifacts for my taste. What sucks with CLONEDVD is that it doesn't account for not keeping additional audio tracks and on POTC there were numerous audio tracks which total around 500 MB's or so..probably even more..the DTS track is probably right around there itself...although I didn't check the exact size.

But even with those audio tracks deleted..and even if CLONEDVD did account for the audio tracks...there would still a massive amount of transcoding that is needed. I'm just going to do a movie only at a 3,810 AVG Bitrate which will have my total project file size at around 4.36 GB's.

[Thunder In Paradise]

Well said Defense. I've just backed the movie up, using DVD Shrink of course, keeping the 5.1 Dolby track, and I had to settle for a compression ratio of 23% I think. That was kinda pushing it since I don't like to go over 30% if I can avoid it, but with movies like Braveheart and whatnot, what are you going to do? On a side note, does anyone else want to contribute to bashing Disney about having the audio commentaries in a SINGLE CHANNEL MONO!!!!!!!!! HELLO!?!??!?!! Good thing my reciever has 5.1 upmix.

[wulf109]

I ran the vob files of the retail DVD thru Bitrate Viewer and it showed a peak/average of 9829/6175. My backup showed a peak/average of 8821/4643. That's 25% compression. CloneDVD's compression meter is very inaccurate and does not adjust as you eliminate audio streams. If you delete all audio streams but the primary ac3 stream you eliminate 1614MB's of file space.

[RabidDog]

I think you mean pirated in the caribbean ? Not out yet in the UK AFAIK?

[dazz87]

ive already decrypted them as the movie only using DVDdecrypter - when using clone dvd it cannot read any of the files

dont know why but lately anydvd been making my system reboot. so i had to use shrink to rip then use clone dvd. just did a backup of pirates with the menu with no problem.

[wolv6769]

I'm new to whole DVD back up world. I ran Pirates of the C. thru DVD Decrypter and then ran it thru IfoEdit. I noticed, in the main movie file, VTS_O1_0.IFO, that there are duplicate VOB IDs, which makes the movie file much larger than it has to be, I believe. If these duplicates can be removed, less compression would be required, yes? For example, in PGC_1, VOB 1, cell 4, is duplicated in PGC_2. This happens 57 time with different files.

Is there a way to delete the duplicate VOB ID in PGC_2, but not original in PGC_1. As I said I'm a beginner and this whole thing is new to me, this may have no bearing on the size of these files and the need to compress so much.

[MackemX]

I'm new to whole DVD back up world. I ran Pirates of the C. thru DVD Decrypter and then ran it thru IfoEdit. I noticed, in the main movie file, VTS_O1_0.IFO, that there are duplicate VOB IDs, which makes the movie file much larger than it has to be, I believe. If these duplicates can be removed, less compression would be required, yes? For example, in PGC_1, VOB 1, cell 4, is duplicated in PGC_2. This happens 57 time with different files.

Is there a way to delete the duplicate VOB ID in PGC_2, but not original in PGC_1. As I said I'm a beginner and this whole thing is new to me, this may have no bearing on the size of these files and the need to compress so much.

the VOB files are not duplicated, just the IFO entries and this confuses some programs and people

I have seen the POTC IFO's and the main movie titleset has 32 titles and 57 PGC's. Most are linked via the PGC's and if you load it into Shrink it shows Titles 1-31 for the main movie

there are some files in that Titleset you can delete if you want to strip the DVD of the crap. There are plenty of methods and tools to do so and it all depends on the user as to what they use

I've heard that Disc 2 is even more complicated

[defense]

@Wulf109. are you saying that it is just CLONEDVD's file size meter which is inaccurate? Because AFAIK CLONEDVD won't adjust for those audio streams either. As far as the average and peak bitrate goes...using bitrateviewer is pretty much useless in that situation as a transcoder transcodes much differently then an encoder encodes.

Transcoders don't go frame by frame. Thus the reason for artifacts and pixelation. After I used CLONEDVD myself, there were too many artifacts to even consider it as a backup. Watch some of the action scenes on your backup vs the original and you'll see them. Of course, everyone has their own taste and preference. As long as it works for you, then it's all good though.