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[SatStorm]

Exactly. There are ilegal.
From the other hand, this site exist for other reasons. Not for downloading.

Of course not all countries has the same laws
In UK for example, it is legal to host a 29 second clip (on a non mpeg 2 form!) from any TV / Radio you wish, if
- You are a club (funclub)
- You are a news service (so the clips you hosting are informing)
- You presenting samples in a form of advertinsing (tv series trailers for example...)

This is the reason, Top Of the Pops 2 in UK, has a RM database to download, but each clip is only 29 full seconds!

All those laws are bullshit you know, but if the big ones wish to mess with you, expect to listen lot's of stupid things like those!

[tony123]

When I first found this site, I was hoping to find sample video clips captured by various capture cards because I was in the market for a new capture card.

[SatStorm]

Well, you already have about 82 posts, so I believe that even without samples, you find something interest to do here

[duhmez]

@Satstorm, I don't know what country you are from, but in U.S. and Canada, this 20 year thing you mentioned is completely untrue and false.

It is MUCHlonger than 20 years, something like the death of the crater plus 50 years or something. The type of contents also has different amounts, all more than 20 years.

And this watch once then delete, is rubbish. You can watch it as much as you like. And,if you are in Canada(specifically Canada it's all I can speak for,) youmay also LEND the copies to friends to watch, not for any money.

In fac, in Canada, I can borrow a movie from you, coy it, and watch it as much as I like. The U.S. is more draconian with this issue. Also no DMCA in Canada either.

The point of our Canadian law is this: If $$ is changing hands, then it MUSt be to the copyright holder, period. If NO $$$ is changing hands, then the law isn't broken.

(Distribution of copies(IE uploading) is still ilegal here.) Even though borring and copying is legal, giving someone a copy to keep, is ilegal.

[Ripper2860]

I believe that it is longer than 20 years.

I think this because recently there was an article I read where Disney, Inc. was pushing for a re-vamp of copyright laws -- mainly due to the fact that several of the Disney classic animated movies would have their copyright expire soon and enter the public domain. I believe Disney died in the 1968, so if 20 years after death were the rule -- it would already be in the Public Domain.

Needless to say -- Disney is VERY concerned about this and is actively lobbying to get the changes made to provide for a EVERGREEN or NEVER-ENDING copyright.

Can't say I blame them. Think of all the Snow White, Cinderella, Mickey, etc., stuff being marketed. Forget the revenue from movie sales!!

Here's a link with Ccopyright experation info ...

http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm

[gmatov]

I think there are exceptions even to those figures.

In another thread we discussed "Happy Birthday", published at end of 1800's, still copyrighted..

I think copyright can be renewed in perpetuity.

Copyrights only lapse when holder doesn't renew.

Cheers,

George

[Ripper2860]

Wow -- my Disney story was prior to the 1998 revised copyright laws (partly initiated by Disney), so it is good for a while. My how time flies. I guess it has been sometime since I read that article -- or it was in a magazine in a doctor's office.

Anyhow -- here's the Happy Birthday" song deal ...

The Chicago-based music publisher Clayton F. Summy Company, working with Jessica Hill, published and copyrighted "Happy Birthday" in 1935. Under the laws in effect at the time, the Hills' copyright would have expired after one 28-year term and a renewal of similar length, falling into public domain by 1991. However, the Copyright Act of 1976 extended the term of copyright protection to 75 years from date of publication, and the Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 added another 20 years, so under current law the copyright protection of "Happy Birthday" will remain intact until at least 2030.

Full article: http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.htm

It seems that Happy Birthday to You, was copyrighted in 1935, but the original musical tune "Good Morning to you" was written in 1893 by a school principal to greet her students every morning.

[SatStorm]

I don't talking about the copyright of the source, it is about what you can do with a copy you have of it, like a VHS tape, a film, a TV transmission or even a DVD.
For example, I wish to trade a TV music show from the late 70s. Do I have the right? In an extreme explanation of the law, yes, IF I can prove that I tape that show 20 or more years ago. So, I don't have to pay the TV station, or the artist for that appearance (which already paid at time being). Also, I can show this show in public, under a member club type action. Or to have a fan internet site with this material to download.

And it is not about the music rights, those are different! A music song, is a music song. A promo video of a song, is a video, not the music song itself. So The rights we have on the video are different!

Or to tell it different: The song is the product, while the video of this song is for it promotion. So, the question here is: Do we have rights on this promotion thing? Well, yes, after some years...