DVD_Shrink subpicture. What is it?...Other questions.

[Shtirlits]

Hi,

Have a question about a 'subpicture' in DVD Shrink.
What is it?
For example for this one movie that I'd like to back up there's a main title, but then there's also a subpicture (20MB) in size. Do I need to include that? What does it do?

Menus.
I did a test burn and included the menu, but they only showed up
at the end of the movie and I couldn't access them no matter what I did.
What should the order of the files when I include the menus?
In other words, when I'm in authoring mode do I need to order the files so that the menu files go first and then the main movie?

Compression.
For your experience, what is the compression % that doesn't visibly degrade the movie quality? I have one of those

Thanks!

[Gazorgan]

I see these periodically. I think it's a bug in DVDShrink. It doens't appear to be that particular chapter seperated out form the main. I generally delete it.

DVDShrink also hates multi-angle. I did 1 re-author that hit 12 GB, when the original was only hitting 80% on main movie.

[noki]

Shtirlits
once you RE-AUTHOR in Shrink you loss the links for the menus. they simply play back as movies; they are not navigational. but there is a workaround in Shrink...
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=185976&highlight=
now, Gazorgan claims he has a workaround for creating navigational menus while re-authoring. nag him for this workaround and see if he responds. i've tried 5 times and he has not responded. then again i think i know why he hasn't responded
hey Gazorgan, you listening?...number 6....still waiting....

good luck.

[Shtirlits]

Noki,

Thank you. I got it...Any ideas about what a subpicture is?

[WH]

Well, play it in DVD Shrink and see what it is.

It could be motion menu or menu transition or first play clip.

[Smonkey]

subpicture=subtitle

[Contraband75]

sub picture is more than just subtitles. I don't delete them anymore. What happens (at least on a few i did) is if you have a movie that has someone speaking in another language in a scene, and they put the translation on the screen (the new James Bond does this when he is in China) the text will be gone.

Also subpicture happens to be your cursor in your menus. In all of my first few movie rips, i had no cursor in my menus. This makes it hard as hell to navigate.

So now I leave all my subpictures in place.....they are usually only 1 or 2 mb (sometimes much larger) i hope this helps and makes sence for you.

[brushswinger]

Can you safely delete FOREIGN subpics then, without affecting navigation???

[MackemX]

Can you safely delete FOREIGN subpics then, without affecting navigation???

what do you mean by navigation?

it won't affect playback navigation but it may affect the subtitle menu depending on which program you use to strip them

some programs change the mapping of the streams and therefore the subtitles you select may not be the right ones displayed

[Contraband75]

ya the subpicture in the foreign languages can be deleted. Just dont delete and english or any from the menus. You will be sorry you did, since trying to look through your menus without a cursor is real irritating.

[Gurm]

Subpicture is still images that are transposed over the content of the DVD (menus, movie, extras, etc.) - in the PC world we would call this a "bitmap page" or "sprite page" or something of that variety. Those who do programming are familiar with the concept - one large bitmap that gets loaded into memory and then bits and pieces of it get copied over on top of the scene in question.

That's what subpicture is. You need it.

- Gurm

P.S. Can you remove foreign subpictures? I wouldn't.