Compatibility issues w/Panasonic DMR E-50 and Memorex DVD-R

[psychotronicfilms]

Hi. I have a brand-new DMR E-50 that I just opened and started to use.

I bought a 10-pack of Memorex DVD-Rs (even though Memorex tapes are crap, I've been surprised to have great luck with their CD-Rs), and although the disc burned properly at the SP speed, and finalized, it will not playback in my Daewoo 5800 DVD player (which has been hacked to get rid of macro and region problems).

This Daewoo unit has successfully played several DVD-Rs in the past by a variety of manufacturers, but in this case, it simply reads NO DISC and won't even bring anything up at all.

Since this is the first DVD-R I've ever burned, I have no idea if my burner is weird, or if Memorex don't jive well with the DMR E-50, or the Daewoo 5800.

Any ideas? Has anyone out there experienced the same thing?

I'll be glad to pick up another brand of blanks and try them out if that's where the problem lies.

By the way, the burned disc plays back in the recorder without any problem, and it said that finalization was completed successfully.

Thanks in advance for the kind responses...

[donpedro]

Good news: It is not media.

Bad news: It's recorders authoring.

Good news: It's recorder / player combination.

Read more here: Panasonic DMR-E30 can't play recorded DVD

[psychotronicfilms]

Good news: It is not media.

Bad news: It's recorders authoring.

Good news: It's recorder / player combination.

Read more here: Panasonic DMR-E30 can't play recorded DVD

Thanks very much for the input. I read through that thread and found it to be most illuminating. If only I had stumbled across these boards BEFORE I purchased the DMR-e50! I already had the Daewoo 5800 and was planning on bouncing things back and forth...

I just bought a Samsung cheapie that claims on the packaging to play DVD-Rs. I'll let you know what happens with that.

As far as throwing the DVD-Rs into my computer and reauthoring them - that's WAY over my head. Plus, my older iMac doesn't read DVDs of any sort...

Thanks again for the prompt response!

[donpedro]

If only I had stumbled across these boards BEFORE I purchased the DMR-e50!

Good/Bad news (it depends on view).... I had Philips 75/17 burner and it does same thing. So don't cry about Panasoni

[oldfart13]

Not to start a running battle *again* but I'm having no problems playing CMC MAG 4X Memorex DVDs burned from my Panasonic E80 and Pioneer A05 in any of my *7* non Daewoo DVD players. Also tried in an Apex AD-1200 tonight with no problems. The media seems fine so far, just not as good as Maxell 2X discs.

[rioh]

I think this incompatible issue is due to the Daewoo player, not to the Panasonic recorder.

Daewoo may not read a DVD-R whose data structure meets the DVD-VIDEO spec...

[ejai]

I own an E50 and the problem is not the recorder but the media. Memorex DVD-R are considered by many as being garbage media. In most forums I visit I find many people have problems with Memorex.

If you want true compatibility use TDK. STAY AWAY FROM MEMOREX. Especially if you are using a Panasonic E-50.

[markjj]

Being a major fan and proud owner of my E50 I agree it is likely to be media rather than the recorder. I had problems using one brand (Datawrite Classic 4x Classic red)) where the E50 simply refused to record on them most of the time. I got advice from a local media retailer who put me onto another brand (Datasafe white/gold 4x)*. Ever since I have had no problems with those discs being read on other dvd players and the PC. Its probably sensible to buy individual discs first to ensure the E50 is happy with them before buying in bulk. Hope this helps

*I'm sure I read somewhere that Datawrite and Datasafe are one and the same. The latter's discs were a little more expensive so I suppose you get what you pay for.

[donpedro]

NO, NO, NO, NO !!!!

It is not media issue..... read my linked post that I am refering to or do your own test. I can prove that it is not media.

[oldfart13]

YES! YES! YES! IT COULD VERY WELL BE THE MEDIA!! Memohex gets some of the worst ratings since they don't make their own and buy lots from other companies and get their name branded onto them. This makes for a very inconsistent product. So, since we don't know what media is actually causing problems other than the Memorex name, it could very well be the media.

My E80 produced discs play in all my friends' DVD players: Norcent, Citizen, Sony, JVC, Apex, Pioneer, Malata, etc. The E80 only produces a Video_ts folder. No Audio_ts folder. I don't think there is ANY change in the authoring of the DVD-R from the E50 to the E80. Sooo...why should it be that MY equipment works flawlessly and his refuses to burn Memorex disks? I stuck to only 2 types of Memorex, Prodisc 2X and CMC Magnetics AF1. Those also work in my A05 without any problems and without hacking the firmware. If his Memorex are anything other than these brands, then even you must concede that it just may be the discs...

[donpedro]

Why is not media problem in my case (and psychotronicf's sounds very close to mine) ?

Because

1. I made copy of Panasonic's original burned DVD to different media (Sony DVD-RW) and problem was still there. Daewoo 5800 could not play it.

2. I used same type of media from same batch to burn commercial DVD backup copy on my PC Writer (Sony DRU-500A) and I was able to play it on Daewoo 5800 without any problems.

3. I used same type of media from same batch to burn re-authored original content. I ripped original data and re-authored it on PC and burned on Sony DRU-500A. I was able to play it on Daewoo 5800 without any problems.

4. Anybody who reports same issue is using some form of re-authoring software (DVD workshop, DVD shrink, TMPGEnc DVD Author, dvd2one)

5. People that were playing with this issue were using media such as Sony DVD-RW or TDK DVD-R.

6. So far players with problem that I can track are Daewoo 5800 and Apex AD-5131. Others do not provide brand or model.

So if you read all this carefuly you can't blame it on media.

What you can.... is blame it to "authoring part" of DVD recorder or DVD player's capabilities to deal with this type of "authoring".

[ejai]

If you feel it's not the media then that's fine with me. What I do know for sure is that media causes a majority of the problems dealing with compatibility.

Also Memorex is a product that is known to give problems along this line.

All I know is that I no longer have those sorts of problems once I started using a better grade of disk.

To each his own

[handyguy]

DVD-RW works on a Daewoo?

Daewoo= cheap, iffy off brand stuff
Panasonic= Expensive, high quality units

I use Accus, probably now about $70/100 or cheaper (gets $20 cheaper each time I buy) on my e30 with 100% playing on ANY dvd player including my PS2..., apex, panasonic, sony, ....I have never found a machine they don't play on, if I did, id just reauthor with dvd2one, which makes new IFOs

[donpedro]

If you feel it's not the media then that's fine with me.

Feel ? Feeling would mean that I didn't test. I did so I am sure.

What I do know for sure is that media causes a majority of the problems dealing with compatibility.

Agree. Unfortunately ther is minority too

All I know is that I no longer have those sorts of problems once I started using a better grade of disk.

Do you use Panasonic DVD burner and Deawoo 5800 unit ?

DVD-RW works on a Daewoo?

Yes

Daewoo= cheap, iffy off brand stuff
Panasonic= Expensive, high quality units

Probably true

...if I did, id just reauthor...

Yep! That is the answer. I wish I know what exactly is couse of this issue

[ejai]

I use 4 different burners with the same results.

Panasonic A03
Pioneer LF-311
Panasonic E-30
Panasonic E-50

All these units work fine with the TDK disks. I have never had a problem playing them back in any dvd player. Such was not the case when I was experimenting with much cheaper brands.

[mazinz]

Their is a known problem with the way some of the homedeck machines record their dvds and playing them on certain lesser/and or older machines. I ran into this snag a year or two ago. The disc would freeze after a few seconds (on the older apex ad600a and the older pioneer 606d and some other models). So i would take the disc and reburn it on my pc burner, problem went away. I have a few machines, so i was able to test things on more recent models too. It seemd to mainly occur as i mentioned on the lesser brands and or older dvd decks.
Just what the homedeck machines are exactly doing when recording that would cause this is still unknown, but it is a common occurance

PS: and in general i would avoid memorex discs like the plague. About 2 or so years ago when their blank dvds were first available, they were VERY GOOD, then after a while in newer batches, problems arose and it was enough to warrant a few postings on this site. It turns out however they had their dvds made before, something (or the plant) was changed and the quality shot downhill very fast. Your best bets are fuji, tdk, sony or maxell

[ejai]

Mazinz,

I agree wholeheartedly.

[Bob W]

I Have the E50 recorder and I can tell you that it absolutely loves the cheap CompUSA brand 1X DVD-R media which sells for $44 for a pack of 50 (sometimes cheaper when on-sale). I have burned about 300 of these without a single bad disc.

[hech54]

My Philips 985 hates Memorsux +R's. Most of them turned out COASTERS.
It's Ritek and Verbatim for me.

[psychotronicfilms]

Awhile back I started this thread with a question about a Memorex brand DVD-R blank burned on in the SP (2-hour) speed on a Panasonic E-50, not loading or playing on a Daewoo 5800 that had been hacked to defeat macro.

Someone from this board sent me a PM and asked if I had tried playing back a Memorex blank burned at the LP (4-hour) speed. I lost their e-mail and could not respond directly.

However, I just tried it and it plays back perfectly in my Daewoo 5800!

I don't know much about the technical ramifiactions of this, but I thought I would offer it as fuel for the fire.

Thanks again for all the info, everyone.

[donpedro]

Someone from this board sent me a PM and asked if I had tried playing back a Memorex blank burned at the LP (4-hour) speed. I lost their e-mail and could not respond directly.

However, I just tried it and it plays back perfectly in my Daewoo 5800!

Now I am surprised. I wonder how this can be explained. Maybe somthing with resolution ???