Overburn What does it mean and please help me!!

[markyboy]

I have 700meg cdrs and i want to put 714 meg on the disc.
It is not video, put pure data in the form of a bin/cue file.
I have nero 6 and a samsung dvd/cdr combo writer.

Can anyone please tell me if this is possible or can you only overburn a VCD with video. I got this impression from the previous posts.

Thanks

[RabidDog]

go for it .. it should work.. gotta be in disc-at-once mode tho (or at least you do in nero5.5). you may not even need overburn ...

[Viper10000]

markyboy,

Here what I know how do overburn with Nero 5.5 (I don't have Nero 6).

1. First you have to know that your CD burner support overburn. In action bar, select Recorder -> Choose Recorder
2. A Popup window pop up, and at the lower left corner will tell your chosen CD-burner will support overburn or not.

If it does then here are the steps in Nero 5.5 to do it:

1. In action bar, select File -> Preferences.
2. Go to the Expert Features tab of this Preference window, and check "Enable overburn Disc-At-Once'. Change the maximum CD length to something like 81 min 59 sec. Hit OK.
3. In action bar select File->Write CD. If the wizard shows up, close it. Nero 5.5 will direct you to a detail screen with tabs.
4. In this screen, click on the 'Multisession' tab, and select 'No Multisession'
5. Now, click on the 'Burn' tab, and select 'Disc-At-Once' on the drop-down box.
6. Burn.
7. Nero will pop-up another detail screen and ask you to confirm the overburn. Of course you will say OK. (Note: If you don't see this, you must did something wrong)

Hope this will help.

Cheers,

[Gazorgan]

If it's a bin/cue, then it will probably fit. Try it and see.

[Viper10000]

markyboy,

BTW, how much can you overburn in one CD is another matter. It depends on the media you use. I suggest use brand name like TDK, Maxell, etc. I usually can do 720MB on the TDKs. For non brand-name, then it's a crap shoot. Sometimes I can squeeze 720MB like the big boys, but sometimes I couldn't even squeeze 710MB.

Cheers,

P.S. Oh I forgot, when you do overburn, you have to select the "close session" also (in the burn tab screen). If you do VCD or SVCD, I think Nero will automatically select this, but if you do data, then you have to manually select it.

[jaxxboss]

I usually can get 82min and 22 secs on good cdr media with an overburn.. Of course your writer has to support this and also in the ADVANCED featrures you have to set your limit for the overburn. Time and not size of video on a vcd is what matters.

[mats.hogberg]

Time and not size of video on a vcd is what matters

That's true only because VCD happens to have a fixed bit rate. I personally find counting disc capacity in minutes hard to swallow. You dont go: "Hey, I bought a brand new 60 hour HDD today!" do you? Just because it has capacity to hold 60 hours of audio in wav format, sampled at 44.1 kHz, or 60 hours of VCD video?
This 74, 80, 90 min is just a legacy from the times where CD=Audio CD.

/Mats

[wulf109]

If it's data,it's mode 1 and 700MB's is all that will fit. You can get 800Mb's of VCD/SVCD because it's mode 2. You can't burn data in mode 2.
Check the player list to see if your recorder is over-burn compatible. Nero is over-burn compatible,but you then need to buy 90 or 99 minute CDR's.

[jaxxboss]

Of course that is the reason. What is your point? That you don't like saying it holds 82min? White is white ONLY because there is an absence of all the colors, but if it is white then you say White and not "Gee, that snow looks so absent of all colors."

[mats.hogberg]

My point was only that I was out to start an argument! No, actually the statement "Time and not size of video on a vcd is what matters". As there is a fixed relationship between the two, it's like saying "Time, and not how fast you drive, determines when you'll reach your destination"
If the car has a fixed speed (like VCD happens to have a fixed bit rate) it's true. Not otherwise.
Mesuring data storage capacity in time is like measuring volume in mass (a bucket that holds 11 kilograms? Yes, of water! And since we know the density of water, we can calculate it's volume). I just find it a bit silly, that's all.

/Mats

[jaxxboss]

It is not like saying that at all. Actually, that is just plain confusing and you're melting my lil brain
it is like saying the interior size of the car and not the fixed speed is what determins how much you can transport in a specified time.

If you have one hour to transport 10 pounds of sneaky pete sausages to the market and your car only holds 5 pounds then you have to make 2 trips, but if you aint fast enough you will run out of time. But if your car holds 4 pounds then you will have to make one extra trip but will you be able to do it in time? Then the horse what if yes the school I bet hey man, do that is reverberate then some hey chocolate. :P

[mats.hogberg]

/Mats

[markyboy]

thanks for all the posts...it is nice tio se people helping a newbie

Cheers
Mark
Scotland

[K(c)offee]

Bin files are bigger then the amount of info on a CD. Assuming this is a back up of a game or some software. I dont think any big company would go over the 700MB limit on CDs because I dont think all cd rom drives can read over 700. So it would be just cheaper to burn a 2nd cd for the company then have to do tech support and returns for people that cant use the software. Atleast thats what I assume.

[Cornucopia]

Time? Bytes? You're both wrong! (and you're both somewhat right)

What really matters is how many SECTORS can be used on a CD. This will take into account TOC, Disc Type and Data Form, Leadin and Leadout. If you want to maximize the disc, it all boils down to juggling the available sectors, and overburning makes use of cutting into some of that reserved Leadout. These things can be termed in units of Time (esp. if dealing with audioCD or videoCD) or it can be termed in units of Bytes (better for Data), but they both have to reside on CD Sectors/Blocks/Frames.

Oh, BTW, you can make Data-only Mode2 discs. It has been discussed here and elsewhere many times. Do a Google on "XCD" or "Matroska".

Scott

[budz]

If your cdburner suppports overburn....try using vcd easy to burn your bin/cue files.....I've used it when my bin/cue files were over 800mbs....it works well!!!

[RabidDog]

vcdeasy only allows 800mb plus becuase it is burning in mode2, allowing more bytes per sector mode1=2048 ish mode2=2324 ish. Why does NERO (the premier burning app) use a different size calc to windows eg 700mb in windows shows as something different in the nero window!! arrrgh talk about something designed to confuse!

remember peeps burning vcd/svcd you can get 800mb on a cdr, burning an avi to cdr you can only get 700mb!

[mats.hogberg]

What really matters is how many SECTORS can be used on a CD

Oh yeah? And the capacity of a sector? What's that measured in? Pounds per square inch?
Really, I'm hijacking the topic - please forgive me. I'll try not to do it again.

/Mats