DVD/Hdd recorders ok but when for mpeg4 recorders?

[RabidDog]

Does anyone know if any companys have any plans to launch anything like this? I know it may be beyond technical reach (real-time mpeg4 recording at medium/high quality levels) I want a HDD recorder that will do this.. or do I just wait and buy a DL dvd recorder instead?

[Gazorgan]

There is considerably more overhead in MPEG4 encoding versus MPEG2 encoding. I know of only 1 hardware device that currently does this.

You can't do it in software on a P4 3 Ghz, so it's going to take some serious chippage in a hardware device to do it. And what do you implement and what do you skip? You recording Interlaced video, which is a very new addition to the DivX family. You don't want a proprietary format do you?

[andydd]

Cant see it happening somehow.

The main advantage of Mpeg4 is small sizes, so its easy to send and download, with DVD recorders size isnt as much of an issue, plus the present DVD recorders make a DVD Video discs that you can play on other DVD players, if you record Mpeg4/Divx onto a DVD/CD its only going to be able to play on the very few players that can play mpeg4/divx.

[houtx67]

The Panasonic E100H records to MPEG4, but it has to involve a SD Memory card. I haven't played around with this because I don't have any SD Memory cards. According to the manual, any HD recording must be done simultaneously to a SD card, too. I'm not sure if you can ever record directly to a DVD-R or RAM in MPEG4 either. This effects the quality/length of your recording (dependent on your SD card). I assume you could burn the MPEG4 to a DVD after the HD recording, but that's only a guess. There has to be someone out there who has experimented, so maybe they'll chime in.

Here's a link to the manual that someone else found:

http://www.panasonic.ca/PDP/OperatingInstructions/dmre100-oi-eng.pdf

[RabidDog]

You can't do it in software on a P4 3 Ghz, so it's going to take some serious chippage in a hardware device to do it.

Actually its not that far off .. I already have a camera that records mov movies.. admittedly its 320x200 @ 15fps but it only really needs a 4x boost to be viable for a reasonable quality encode. Or put four of these in parallel..

[FulciLives]

I thought JVC had a stand alone DVD recorder in the works that will also do MPEG-4

Could have sworn I've read something about it somewhere.

Can't remember when it is due out.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[FulciLives]

The Panasonic E100H records to MPEG4, but it has to involve a SD Memory card. I haven't played around with this because I don't have any SD Memory cards. According to the manual, any HD recording must be done simultaneously to a SD card, too. I'm not sure if you can ever record directly to a DVD-R or RAM in MPEG4 either. This effects the quality/length of your recording (dependent on your SD card). I assume you could burn the MPEG4 to a DVD after the HD recording, but that's only a guess. There has to be someone out there who has experimented, so maybe they'll chime in.

Here's a link to the manual that someone else found:

http://www.panasonic.ca/PDP/OperatingInstructions/dmre100-oi-eng.pdf

I took a look at the manual and it doesn't sound good for MPEG-4 if you ask me.

It is limited to 2 resolutions. Either 176x144 which sounds totally useless or 320x240 which doesn't really sound much better if you ask me. Oh and yeah the frame frate is limited to 6fps - 15fps

So basically it is worthless

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[RabidDog]

those resolutions are from a digicam. thats where the sonystick comes in. I am thinking of the future really ... hi-def telly recorded in mpeg4 on 8.5gb dvd recorders?