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  1. I am trying to backup my dvd's at my school which just bought a bunch of new computers with nec-1100a's in them. But the smucks (sp?) that run the computer lab wont install any of the free programs to rip and burn a dvd. Is there a program or two that I can run that won't have to install anything in windows? I have dvd shrink, but i need a program that will be able to burn it.
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  2. I doubt there is a burning application that does not install something, plus, if your establishment has a no install policy, you could get your arse kicked for attempting it.

    Plus they are probably held by very strict copyright guidelines, and as such I doubt they would take kindly to you backing up anything on their property.

    Personally I would consider it a very bad idea and wait until you go home for the holidays. It's not worth getting kicked out of school for.
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  3. I am only planning on backing up my own collection. We are pretty open about lending our movies to each other, but some people are not as careful as other with the movies. The computers have a copy of roxio easy cd creator on them, i didn't want to have to use that but if i have to I will.
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  4. Anydvd and CloneDVD both have a free download with 30 day evalution period, but they have to be install in windows. If you install anything just don't admit to it and maybe rename it or move it under accessories....noone should find it there.
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    Originally Posted by Vanderlow
    just don't admit to it and maybe rename it or move it under accessories....noone should find it there.
    That's a bad idea.

    Tracing software is pretty advanced, and admins look at change records, they don't dig in to folders. You cannot hide anything... all you can do is hope for their lack of paying close attention.

    And you can always UNinstall things.
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    If you really like your school having computers, please try to find another way to increase your video collection, legally of course. You just may find a way to use your school's computers to engage in illegal activity, but what if you get caught? Think of the position you put your school in, all the while they were trying to avoid a scandal, and you were doing something steering them to that very end. I also noted you pointing at the lab workers calling the schmucks. Did you notice while you pointing one finger at them, three fingers were pointing back at you? Just a thought.
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    All moral aspects aside, CDRecord ProDVD / DVDRecord should fit the bill.

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    Since you already have DVD shrink on it simply download Imgtool Classic 0.90 Build 7 to create the ISO file, then use DVD decryptor 3.1.6.0 to burn that ISO. Those versions of that sofware run from EXE and do not install. They are also freeware so have at it.
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  9. I think Tommyknocker made some good points. I'm in charge of keeping the computers at our (very small) company running. It's very frustrating when I get everything working and then find that someone for some unknown reason has made changes to the system. If you introduce a virus to the system or somehow muck things up are you planning to pay an expert to track down the problem and fix it?

    This isn't shaky moral ground. You've clearly stated that you want to use the school's computers to do some personal work.

    I'm not claiming that I've never done anything wrong but If I discuss it with my friends I would hope they would point it out to me rather than give me advice on how to get away with it.
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  11. I think Tommyknocker made some good points. I'm in charge of keeping the computers at our (very small) company running. It's very frustrating when I get everything working and then find that someone for some unknown reason has made changes to the system. If you introduce a virus to the system or somehow muck things up are you planning to pay an expert to track down the problem and fix it?

    This isn't shaky moral ground. You've clearly stated that you want to use the school's computers to do some personal work.

    I'm not claiming that I've never done anything wrong but If I discuss it with my friends I would hope they would point it out to me rather than give me advice on how to get away with it.
    I do a lot of the computer work for a small credit union and have the same problem when people install things on their computers. That is why I wanted to use programs that dont install. The reason they wont install any software is because they "don't have the time". I also understand that they want to keep a lid on piracy and installing these programs would allow everyone to do copy dvd's. Not to mention the amount of questions they would get.

    Since you already have DVD shrink on it simply download Imgtool Classic 0.90 Build 7 to create the ISO file, then use DVD decryptor 3.1.6.0 to burn that ISO. Those versions of that sofware run from EXE and do not install. They are also freeware so have at it.
    Thanks kzPhaze, this is exactly what I was looking for. I will test this out when my dvd's arrive this week.
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    I would think that you don't have the access rights to install any software. I can't believe the machines are running 98, so it's really a moot point.

    Get yourself a 128 MB USB thumb drive. You can 'install' and amazing amount of software on one, including DVDShrink ( you won't need to register DLL's if you place them in a valid path ). I've had very poor luck getting a burning app to run, except for fireburner, and you have to tweak it each time you fire it up. Roxio will burn ISO's, so use IMG Tools classic, it runs standalone just fine.

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  13. it appears that dvd decryptor 3.1.7.0 tries to install to a directory, i don't know if it installs anything to windows or if 3.1.6.0 doesn't install, but i can't find 3.1.6.0. If the newer version doesn't work, i will try to burn it with roxio.
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  14. i have a 16mb thumb drive and was planning to use this. Do you think i will need more space?
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  15. I do not understand all of this "shoud I"

    I understand the computer lab doesn't want to install dvd ripping software so the students can't pirate software.

    There is no rule that I have seen that says that I can't "install software" (not to say there isn't one, cause there probably is) The reason I don't want to install software is because they run winxp pro and I believe that I dont have the administrative rights to install any software. (I did install download accelerator once to speed up getting my copy of RH, but that didn't end up working)

    I won't be going around telling everyone how to do this, I only want to protect my investment. I don't want to be the ******* for not letting anyone borrow my dvd's.
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  16. @Biohazard,
    I don't want to sound "holier-than-thou" but I agree with Tommyknocker.Not only are you putting your computer privileges on the line backing up a DVD on their computers but you are also jeopardizing your schools computer lab program.
    Think hard before doing this.

    BTW..I've never heard of a self-executing burn app.I've been able to do it with NTI FileCD but I had to install the app. first then I burned the folder.
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  17. There is no way that the computer lab would be shut down. If that happened the school would lose so much money because students would go elsewhere. Teachers would have to change their teaching methods on the account of not all students would be able access a computer or internet. However, if they somehow did close down all the computer labs and the library computers (which they wont) It would free up about 150,000 a year to do other things with.

    As for my computer privledges, yea, i will put those on the line for this.
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    Are you so sure? Your school gets money from someplace, and trust me, they do have to answer to other people as to how it is spent. The fact that you feel they will not shut down regardless of what shenanigans you pull, and if your school does lose their computers only lets them spend money elsewhere speaks volumes about you, but I will not go into detail.
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  19. Ok, lets think about this for a minute. The school gets a very small amount of money from the state of oregon. Most of the money comes from tuition. I pay 12 - 15 thousand dollars a year to go to school and I think i have paid enough to use the computers. If they shut down the computer labs, a lot of the students would go to other universities causing the school to lose much funding and therefore having to shut down other departments. This would hurt considering that the school only has 5 - 6 thousand students. The school raised tuition last year because of some measure that didn't pass, and it could be raised again this year. The people that say where the money goes is the board, and the president of our institution Dr. Connartist, err I mean Dr. Conn (no not my nickname for him, just ask around)

    My point about losing the computers we could spend the money elsewhere? Well I don't think that in the current financial stress that our university is in that we should be buying all new 50 some new computers and spending another 50,000 dollars for antivirus software for everyones computer on campus. There are far better ways/more thrifty ways to spend the money and still get the job done.

    PS. The computers we had before worked just fine.
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    Yes, why don't you think about what you are doing. You are risking the university's computers program for your own personal gain. You do not care about the rest of the student body, as long as you and your friends can get the latest DVDs burned . Yes, you should be able to use your school's computers. But only what they were purchased for: Your education. Your tax dollars also buys nuclear warheads and battleships. Do you also have the right to use them as you see fit?
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    think of how much your school will have to raise tuition if they get a nice fat lawsuit...

    seems you don't care...but you should.

    on a different note...if you are spending that much on tuition can't you afford another $15 for a DVD in the event that a friend does ruin an occasional DVD or 2...I mean how old are these people? They should know how to properly handle a DVD...and if you are lending them the copy you must also lend them the original or you are breaking copy right law...and I won't even get into the problems that can come from that.
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  22. Not everyone rents movies from blockbuster to copy them. I only want to protect my dvd's from getting ruined. I guess I could purchase a new one if it gets ruined. My tax dollars do go to the school, not much of my tax dollars since i dont make much and live off of student loans. Why would there be a lawsuit if I am doing nothing illegal?
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  23. Oh my god i just relized that i am arguing over the internet. I am retarded. Forget it, I will just go buy a nec 1300a when my credit card gets here.
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    Now I really believe you are in college. What you just said about buying a DVD drive was very intelligent. Good luck with your education, and remember: Knowledge is power.
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