How do I get 8+ Gigs?

[mntentman]

I have made a DVD from TV shows via a Philips recorder. I go to use DVDBackup and it tells me there is 8.32 gig on the disk. The individual files don't show that, but the folder does. Seems very odd to me. Anyone know what the explanation might be? If I want to burn another copy on my Mac, do I then need to run it through DVD2OneX?

Thanks for any help!

[galactica]

If your HD space is registering the backup of those files to be +4 gigs the only way to copy it on your comptuer is to run it through dvd2one or another similar app.

The quesition is do you want all the material on there? Did it do a straight record ie include commercials? are you wanting to edit them out if they are there?

what model of philips recorder is it?

[mntentman]

It's a DVDR75, which is course creates its own menus, which I think causes problems at times. The disk is four episodes of "Curb Your Enthusiasm," so there are no commercials.

I can make a backup with DVDBackup, but then if I try to use DVD2One, it gets strange. Time to copy seems short (6:00 or so) but grows whenever it gets to about 40% time, to about 14 minutes. Then at about 50% I get the message "Error adjusting IFO file. It does not match with VOB file."

Any suggestions? Thanks.

[dcsos]

I don't understand.. How did you mange to burn 8 gigs to a Optical disc
with a phillips recorder?

The limit is 4.7 gigs (per side) unless you have a replicated disc

If you burned this, dvd backup is doulbing the content somehow

[mntentman]

I don't get it either. It's really strange. Disk shows 4.19 g under "Get Info." That's OK. But if you open the disk it shows two folders with the following sizes, which means something odd is happening before it even gets to DVDBackup:

VIDEO_RM -- 1 mb

VIDEO_TS -- 8.32g, with the following contents:

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_5.VOB
VTS_02_0.BUP
VTS_02_0.IFO

The, if I use DVDBackup, the files in the VIDEO_TS folder adds these files as well, but does not increase the overall size:

VTS_02_1.VOB
VTS_02_2.VOB
VTS_02_3.VOB
VTS_02_4.VOB
VTS_02_5.VOB


I'm very confused.

[dcsos]

what happens when you drag and drop the VIDEO_TS to MAC Harddrive?
Because you madenit yourself, ther should be no COPYGUARD and you don't need backuyp for this step perhaps...
Also SOFTARCH makes mac software for settop recorder (is your phillips one of these?) that may fix the files as they get copied to hard drive..but it costs.....called "great video" or some such

www.softarch.com

[mntentman]

The problem is you can't simply drag and drop the VIDEO_TS folder because the Philips recreates a goofy VIDEO_RM folder and it won't work without that.

I looked at Great Video! and the documentation is sparse. Can't even tell if it is the OSX version that was supposed to come out in August and there is no tech documents. And can't tell if it supports the Philips. Too shaky for $99.

I am right now trying Cinematize which may be a similar product anyway. I have been able to extract the pieces of the video I want, but have not yet had time to go further to see if I can burn them. That may well be my solution.

I can make an exact copy of this disk, either through Toast or Apple's Disk Utility. The problem is that one of my DVD players, a Pioneer, does not like the Philips recording setup and won't play the disks from there. I can NORMALLY take one of the Philips disks and copy it DVDBackup, and burn via Toast, and the result is a disk that will work in the Pioneer. Why this particular disk is different, I don't know.

[dcsos]

HUH?
can't you just drag and drop that as well?

the Philips recreates a goofy VIDEO_RM folder and it won't work without that.

[mntentman]

I can drag and drop all of this, but my point I guess is that since the VIDEO_RM folder is outside the VIDEO_TS folder, it doesn't do me any good just to try to use the VTS folder -- it is incomplete that way.

My issue remains why this disk would show up in DVDBackup as 8 gigs when a disk clearly can't have that much data... and why it happens on this particular disk and not others.

I'm trying to use Cinematize, and could extract a 30 minute program from the disk, but in turning it into a dv file via Quicktime Pro I end up with a file that is 5 gigs, too big for a DVD... and iMovie crashes after a minute or two when I try to import it.

This is approaching more work than it is worth!

[galactica]

thats very strange in deed that you get more than 4.7 gigs on that disk. I would call phillips and ask them if they have any idea whats going on!

[mntentman]

Good idea. But I want to clarify. Obviously, there can't be more than 4.7 gigs on the disk. You put the disk in the Mac, look at get info, and it says 4.19 gigs. By when you click it open and look at the VTS folder, it does say 8.32 gigs.

None of the other disks I have used in the Philips have ever done this.

[galactica]

I would think that backing up that disk to you HD should NOT make the files larger than they can actually physicall be. Its worth calling phillips on this one!