IfoEdit and Vobrator are kewl!

[Wheelie4]

I got my first burner back in February. I've basicly use DVD Decrypter, DVDShrink and Imgtool to backup movies. I've read how with IfoEdit you could do alot of stuff but I, like alot of others was intimitaded by it's unfriendly, unintuative interface. Let's face it, unless you study your not gonna get anything done in IfoEdit.

This week I got curious. I wanted to backup the movie and menu's (like I do in DVDShrink uncompressed) but I wanted to strip all the extras instead of compressing or setting them to still images. So I started searching guides. Thank's to a couple guides I found I learned how to get the movie and menus only using IfoEdit and it works. And to my suprise with just a few clicks it was really easy. I then wanted to eliminated those warnings and logos that play before reaching the menu. Another search resulted in a tiny guide using VoBrator to identify the ID's then IfoEdit to remove them. Again a very easy procedure. This is very kewl.

The only problem I ran into was everytime I played an ID in Vobrator then stopped it Vobrator would crash (every single time with Vobrator02b). Any idea how I can prevent these crashes? Any info is appreciated.

[freestyler]

If you're running XP, right click the Vobtrator program and hit "run in 256 colors." That compatibility setting may help prevent crashes.

[Wheelie4]

freestyler,

That stopped the crashes, thanks. Before changing that mode the ID playback kept loping. After changing to 256 they stopped looping. To bad It won't work normally, Im not comfortable with the screen changing but atleast no more crashes.

I noticed something else. Even though the warning and logo clips don't play anymore their still in the files taking up space. Now I gotta figure out how to strip them out completely like the extras.

[MackemX]

that tiny vobrator guide wasn't mine HERE was it?

have you seen 2COOL's guides on stripping stuff also?

[Wheelie4]

MackemX,

Sorry, it wasn't your vobrator guide. It was a guide within the ifoedit-guide.zip I downloaded off mpucoders site. But thank's for your link, I'm sure it will come in handy.

The ifoedit guide I used to extract the movie and menu's only was Here

I've seen 2COOL's guides but haven't read them thuroughly yet.

[FOO]

That guide makes no sense.

[Wheelie4]

Considering how much of a newbie (1 week old) I am at removing ID's I actually understand what MackemX's guide is saying I think. It's a warning to be carefull what ID's you remove because one wrong ID removal (the first ID he planned to removed) can breakup the dvd structure causing the dvd not to play but just freeze up instead.

[FOO]

It's not a guide, It's a log of what he did once upon a time.

What it says is that if the first vob id is blank , removing it
turned out bad once. Does this mean the you should never delete the first
one or never delete any blank ones or never delete the first one if it's
blank ?

It also says "be careful" I agree with that

We didn't learn anything here , because there is no Why

[MackemX]

It's not a guide, It's a log of what he did once upon a time.

What it says is that if the first vob id is blank , removing it
turned out bad once. Does this mean the you should never delete the first
one or never delete any blank ones or never delete the first one if it's
blank ?

It also says "be careful" I agree with that

We didn't learn anything here , because there is no Why

so you were talking about my guide

lmao , it's a guide stupid 2 minute guide I wrote earlier this year and never got back to updating it or even deleting it as it serves no real purpose

but what I find amazing is that Wheelie4 actually made some sense out of it as even when I've just read it again, I got a little lost myself

I must update my site sometime as most of it's 6 months outta date

p.s. IIRC, the 1st ID I was talking about was a blank video 0.xx entry which we all should know by now (I've said it that many times) should never be stripped . It may not always be the 1st VOB ID but there will more than likely be one somewhere as most DVD's have them

[Wheelie4]

LOL I had to read the site twice to get the moral of your story.

p.s. IIRC, the 1st ID I was talking about was a blank video 0.xx entry which we all should know by now (I've said it that many times) should never be stripped .

Would that 0.xx stand for 0.81? Or am I thinking of the audio?

[MackemX]

it's normally 0.15 or 0.12 which are 15/12 blank video frames

but sometimes they can be different but still blank video so I just say 0.xx

e.g.
PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:00:00.15 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:00:00.15 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:00.15] [Frames: 15]

[Wheelie4]

Ahh, I see what your refering to.