Can I edit on PC after I record on stand alone DVD recorder?

[Jascha]

Hello everyone,
I am a little bit confused whether to go for a standalone DVD recorder or a PC with a capture card. I already have a PC but have no capture card in it.
What I was thinking was of buying one of the Sony standalone dvd recorders such as RDR GX7 ( or even wait until the HD models come out).
The question is this. Can I record on a +RW or -RW or even a -R DVD with a sony standalone model and then transfer that disc onto my PC by ripping the dvd using software and then do some editing on the PC?
Can i then transfer back the edited contents made on the pc back onto the sony home dvd recorder via firewire by connecting my pc 's firewire port with the dv input of the sony deck?

I hope i am making myself understood and i appreciate if you can guide me. I do have already quite alot of PC software for editing. The trouble is i am confused whether a recording made on a standalone can be transfered (ripped) on a PC, edited on the PC and transfered back.
My problem is that I have heward rumours that discs made on a PC burner might not be played back on a home deck. This way maybe i get the best of both worlds.

Many thanks for your help

[overloaded_ide]

I would say that should work. I don't know about firewire input to a standalone recodred though, but if it has firewire it must be there for a reason
You can certainly put your DVD onto your computer.

As far as Pc burner, yes that's why we use them, if you do them correctly then they DO play on normal set top players.

[donpedro]

The question is this. Can I record on a +RW or -RW or even a -R DVD with a sony standalone model and then transfer that disc onto my PC by ripping the dvd using software and then do some editing on the PC?

Yes

Can i then transfer back the edited contents made on the pc back onto the sony home dvd recorder via firewire by connecting my pc 's firewire port with the dv input of the sony deck?

Hmm... Probably yes... I was able to use FireWire input and send video from Pinnacle Studio version 8, but my source was DV AVI file and not MPEG2.

My problem is that I have heward rumours that discs made on a PC burner might not be played back on a home deck.

Oposite is true. DVD burne on Standalone DVD Recorder have compatibility issues. DVD Writer (PC burner) make more compatible DVDs.

[luvvbuzz]

i have a philips dvdr70 standalone recorder, i have connected up my other standalone player a cyberhome 400 to the video input jacks on the front on the philips recorder and recorded from dvd to dvd that way, since you can connect any input video source to the video input rca jacks on the philips recorder, i would say you could record from any input video source which can use a video rca jack. i could if i wanted to connect my tv out on my computer to my standalone recorder and record directly from what i play into the recorder. if that helps with your question? the recorder i have can input through the video jacks (the yellow, white and red ones) and also the svideo connector.

[Jascha]

The troble is that I am trying to avoid getting a capture card and trying to output from the PC via Firewire. I know that the sony models (except rdrgx3) have a DV input, so I thought i could transfer via firewire and record onto dvd that way. I am sure i will get a PC burner as well for copying my own discs.

The other question is .... the discs made on a standalone model such as the sony rdrgx7, how do i transfer the files made on a rewritable disc onto the pc? How do i rip the files off the disc onto the pc? Will tese be mpeg 2? Avi? And when i transfer back onto the standalone via firewire how is it actually done? Via the timeline of something like Premiere or Vegas 4?
Any other ideas or tips very welcome to my question.
Many thanks

[busterw]

My understanding is that to read the disk made on your standalone recorder on your pc, that you MUST have a dvd-rom drive that can read dvd disks of the format your recorded on. In other words, if you recorded on a dvd-ram disk, you're reader in your pc must be able to read a dvd-ram disk.

FYI, the Pannasonic e60 has a firewire port as well, but no hard drive. I THINK, correct me fellows, that the Panasonic E100 has a 120 gig drive and firewire. Here's the Panny site for it and they can be bought at 6ave.com for $829+.06 (shipping) for a total of $829.06.

[Jascha]

I do have a dvd rom player in my pc so i guess it will be able to read all the dvd formats (except dvd-ram).
What would it be best to record on +RW or -RW if i want to transfer the files onto pc (rip them) before editing?
Many thanks

[handyguy]

My e30 lets me doing editing right on it with dvdram. It has some interesting edit selections but does it very quickly & smoothly.

[KDH]

You may find this site useful

http://www.dvdguideuk.dsl.pipex.com/dvdguide/guides.htm

specifically

http://www.dvdguideuk.dsl.pipex.com/dvdguide/editing1/editing1.htm

KDH
(with thanks to Loobster)

[Jascha]

Many thanks KDH

[fscrocco]

The easiest and most used method to date is this (I have a dmr-e20): Use a Panasonic dvd-ram recorder. Record on ram. Put into a pc that has a drive that reads ram. I have two computers. One has a Panasonic lf-d321 ram/-r recorder. Read the ram disk. It has ONE file with a .vro extension. Copy it to your hard drive. Change the extension to .mpg. Import it into Ulead Movie Factory or DVD Workshop. Author the dvd with chapters, thumbnails, etc. Pick the option in the burn stage that says "do not convert compliant files". It will burn the dvd-r and include the original 2 channel ac-3 audio. You can trim the ends and anywhere in the middle on the e20, or the newer e30/50/60/80/100, or edit it on the computer's lf-d321 drive (or newer 521 drive) I have also imported the file into Ulead Media Studio Pro and edited with transitions, music, special effects, etc., then authored. In my newer computer, I have a $41 Toshiba 1712 cd/dvd reader. It reads ram. I read/copy the .vro file onto the HD, author and burn on my Sony dru500 multi-drive. There is alot of discussion on this method on www.avsforum.com. BTW, there is no re-encoding in the method I use, so no quality loss.